Are dolls seen as children?

Yeah, cause dolls and kids are SO alike
I can take perfect care of my dolls, and I want them, but I am unable to take care of a baby nor do I want one D:
Dolls are nice and silent and don't drool on you and such. My cats drive me crazy sometimes as it is.

 

I do agree a doll is better, you can put a doll down if you got bored of it, you can't do that with a baby.

 

As fun as babies are they are -NOT- dolls. Dolls fulfill something -very- different, they aren't -baby- dolls they are at worst fashion dolls. They are something that doesn't talk back, that you can take apart, fix them up and for the most part they do what you tell them to do... they are much more like RC cars than children. Use that against them next time.

 

You can't just exchange hands or a head on a baby either

 

Lol, and i think if you tried you would be in a lot of trouble *giggle*

 

The idea of bjds being more like RC ars is intriguing. Can you imagine how we could freak out the people who don't like dolls if we had remote controls and could program them from a distance? I can think of a few people my dolls would go after.

 

I agree, mind you i would use that to freak people out because it would be funny! lol ^^ When i first got my RC derlek i cased my cats and my dog with it because it freaked them out, i didn't do it for long.

 

You know, that's something I just don't get...the whole want and love dolls = must secretly want children....even if you collect baby dolls...or hell, even if you collect reborns...those may LOOK real (which I admit I love, personally) but...they're still not. Dolls and kids are so DRASTICALLY different! I'm a mother of 2 young boys (3 years and 5 months) and I love my dolls (not just bjds either)...but they fulfill different things and needs in my life. No doll, no matter how real, could replace my boys, and no child, no matter how quiet and perfect, could replace my dolls, either.

And yes, when I have the time to spend with my dolls, I talk to them, cuddle them, treat them very similar to how I treat my kids...same as I treat my pets...but that doesn't make any of them inter-changeable. Speaking of kids...one of the very reasons a doll is nothing like a child...now that the baby is sleeping instead of fussing (he's teething...not fun) the 3 year old is demanding chicken nuggets. Dollies don't need naps, nor to be fed. But as the kids do, I gotta go! ^-^

 

I had a two-year-old at my house last week and it just reconfirmed that I am better off with dolls than kids. XD I was spastic because he was grabbing books off my bookcase (which is my biggest organizational thing.) and throwing them around and he scared my dog (I put her in the bedroom and shut the door) and just kept tearing things up. My dolls are so much easier and don't make me go "OMG Someone get him!" every ten minutes. XP

I am horrible with kids, at least with really small ones. Once they're like.... four or five and can talk well and understand better I'm okay, but anything younger is just like.... Woah. So no matter how much I like my dolls, and how much I sorta dote on them, they are DOLLS for a reason. Because kids are not in the plan.

 

I hate that accusation! Sure. There will be people who do actually use dolls as a sort of child substitute.... But I've never met one, but I'm sure they exist. Somewhere. There are nutters in every hobby.
Though the child accusation isn't quite as annoying as that 'Is it some kind of fetish?' accusation. *hackles raised* I HATE that one. just because they can be naked and they're anatomically correct does not make it sexual, its a ruddy DOLL.

Recently, an aquaintance had a real go at me for collecting. I still live at home in my mid twenties, and I'm struggling to make my business and art career make ends meet. She went to town about how I should be saving for a house and putting money away for retirement now while I'm young and pouring every spare cent into my business
My best friend, bless her!! stepped in. she's not a collector, but she likes my pretty dolls.

She asked the lady in question how much she spent on alcohol a year. And jewlery. And perfume. And clothing. And clubbing/partying.

She has her vices, and I have mine. It just happens to be dolls instead of the "conventional" young adult drinking and partying. And on a whole I spend less on my collection than any other young conventional adult spends on keeping themselves entertained.

Point is though, dolls are a vice. They're a social networking tool, a creative outlet. They're fun and fire up the imagination. They're attention grabbers, time fillers, characters and unconcious reflections of segments of your own personality.

They're not surrogare Children. They're not Fetishes. They're just a vice beyond the limited scope of a lot of peoples understanding because its not a typical vice.

 

I've never heard it put so eloquently.

 

Just posting an opinion but I think that the envelope pushing discussion of dolls as surrogate children would better be served being discussed in the Dolly Debate threads.Respectfully yours,

 

Thanks so much for sharing!

Some of them are very lovely and i really like one outfit for my girl! I am not sure on the quality of some of them though, they don't look as nice as a lot of other things you can buy. Does any one know how well the fit Resin Soul bodies, since i thought 16" was a little shorter then our girls. Snd does any one know how nice the clothes look in real life?

I think it depends on the person, most sensible people see the dolls the way you do and as well as the person who compares them to RC cars. But some people DO really go that far with them, like some of the people in that video i linked. And i have her horror stories and i have seen some horrible pictures on DA with that unoa specail "O" face.

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And with things like the picture shown is it any wonder that people think that. (I don't mean to pick on this artist, he has some nice photo's, this is juts a good explain of what i mean).

That is a nice thing for your friend to point out about the drinking and stuff because it is a really good way to explain to people that spending this much money in compassion is not that bad.

Terrible two's childern are evil at that age, my sister is going though that, but luckily isn't too bad. She is very gentle with my doll because i tell her to be. But sometimes she can drive me a little mad. But young kids do.

Lol, that is a good compassion and IMO means you see this hobbie in a sensible way.

Do you think we can get the convo we have that that is off topic slit to go into the discussion thread because i do think it will be a very good topic and people have already made some very valid points? Does any one know how we can get that done?

 

IngieBee - Maybe, but I highly doubt it. I really have no 'mothering' instinct. >> I don't even mother my dog much, even though I like my dog and spoil her. Mostly I like kids for a short period of time and then they need to go, because I will freak out. Putting a person with organizational OCDs in the same room as children is just asking for trouble. XD

Ahhh, Wednesday I can put more money into my BBB Sprite fund! ^-^ Two week and I'll already be at 75$, how awesome is that?!

 

I don't get the "dolls as surrogate children" thing, at least as far as I'm concerned. I have two children (both boys, 22 and 13). I have 7 dogs, 28 sheep, 2 horses, a cat and sundry tropical fish. I think I've got enough things to nurture besides my dolls! I enjoy my dolls immensely, but they're not some sort of substitute to assuage my mothering instinct-they're an outlet for my creativity.

 

I'm pretty sure that if I treated a kid the way I treat my dolls, someone would call CPS.

I don't hug them, I don't kiss them, I don't cuddle them, I don't talk to them, and I don't take them outside. I leave them sitting somewhere for days and weeks at a time and occasionally try different outfits on them. If someone accused me of using dolls as a stand-in for kids ... they would have to be nuts.

I teach tiny kids and I don't mind it, but I have a strong sense of "please don't touch me" with them. Cats, I am always trying to grope. I've been accused of "filling the void" with cats ... but cats too are these things I can ignore for long spans of time with no problems. Once a cat is about half a year old, it can basically take care of itself. If anything now, I'm filling my cat-void with dolls. Dolls just require a little LESS attention.

 

I have had one child (grown up now) and lots of dolls and they are nothing alike. My dolls are a creative outlet. My child was an addition to my family. The last time I had a doll that I considered to be my child, it was a baby doll and I was four years old. People who think that just because you like dolls, you really want to be a mother, are obviously not "doll people". I know lots of doll collectors who don't have children and lots who do. I don't think parenthood has anything at all to do with collecting dolls. I don't like discussing my love for dolls with non-doll people because they just don't get it. I feel that it's a waste of my time to try to explain it.