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Most popular doll sizes currently?

Oct 13, 2025

    1. I had around a ten-year lapse from the hobby, and confess I'm still catching up on what's changed, in an excited but very piecemeal way. And I heard it's really hard to get 60cm boy clothing now, which I was quite surprised by, since that used to be the standard! Obviously there were always size variations, within and between brands...

      But now I'm really curious, what do you think the "standard sizes" are now for dolls? I'm suspecting it may only be very different with 1:3 boys, BUT I'd really like to know if heights have shifted at all otherwise, in terms of the bulk of most people's collections, or what makers prioritize. I definitely think in the past, despite outliers, most people had primarily SD (60cm) and MSD (45cm) size dolls in their collections.
       
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    2. I've been in the hobby since 2008, and it seems like a big shift, to me. It used to be all SD and MSD, but now it seems more like 70-75cm boys, and a lot of slim mini girls. Minifee seems to still be popular, but a lot of independent artist dolls are in the 1/4 height range, and everywhere from super skinny to pear shaped to plus size.
       
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    3. 1/3 boys have gotten bigger, and 1/4 girls have gotten shorter. It's normal for larger boys to be 70+cm, even 75+ (where that used to be the exception), and it's much more common to find "slim minis" instead of the old standard MSD size. Of course, with artist dolls becoming hugely popular, "slim mini" isn't always consistent. As the previous poster said, they vary from super skinny to very pear shaped (huge hips) to plus sized. They're almost always short for a 1/4 though.

      There are of course exceptions- there always will be. But these are the trends I've noticed as someone consistently in the hobby since 2012. I think overall the trend has been toward more human-like proportions, rather than the large-headed shapes we're used to (again, there are exceptions).
       
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    4. I had a similar lapse that I only came back from a couple years ago, so I'm in a similar boat to you. From hanging around this forum, I've noticed the same shift everyone else has - from SD and MSD to 75 boys and slim minis, that are much shorter and wispier than I remember. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the wide range of sizes that are available now compared to ten (or even 20 :o) years ago, but it's been an adventure learning how incredibly different the hobby's become and how to temper your expectations for the current market, rather than the market back then. This being said, I recently picked up a 15 year old Lati Yellow and I'm completely in love - such a sturdy little thing, with a good amount of weight to them so you can really feel the doll in your hand. My other tinies feel flimsy in comparison, and they're only a few years old.

      Edit to Add: I've also noticed some things have all but disappeared from the hobby - entire doll lines have ceased production, many companies have shuttered (a good chunk didn't survive the Panini), and others have shifted their focus, sometimes completely off of dolls and more towards clothing and wigs.

      Tinies, for example, are much more niche, and several companies no longer create them. Pukipuki is exceedingly rare, only rereleased briefly and then promptly discontinued again. Crobi T-Line is the same. LaTi is one of the only companies still making dolls smaller than 1/6 consistently, but good ol reliable Resinsoul/Bobobie still has more or less the exact same catalogue they've had for as long as I can recall.

      The most recent example I can think of is LeekeWorld - they very recently (within the past six months even) completely discontinued all dolls, and their wigs are now only available through dealers. It's unclear whether they're simply redesigning and plan to re-open, or have completely stepped out of the dollmaking space.
       
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    5. Most of my collection is old-school and it can be tricky to find stuff for them. It is hard to find clothes/shoes for 1/3 dolls who are not "uncle" size (ca 75cm beefcakes) sometimes, and it seems like SD-sized girls have also stretched out to 68cm or so, with slim bodies and much wider shoulders. 9-10 wigs or 18mm+ eyes are not serviced that often any more.

      I would argue with the above that slim minies have not gotten smaller, but bigger. There are many of 1/4 boys released in the 50cm category (kind of as an equivalent to the "uncle" sized dolls) and 45cm+ girls with slim features and wide shoulders has been an ongoing trend the last few years as well.

      On the opposite mini scale are Puyoo or "bear girls" as you encounter stuff for them on TaoBao. They are a bit chonkier than the old volks MSD and have pear shaped bodies with slightly larger feet (their shoes are too large for msd).

      I think the new standard sizes are largely dictated by what Chinese makers are offering as clothing/shoes/wigs etc, as the majority of accessories is coming from there and they list sizing often after specific body sculpts, like "id75" or "cd2" (charmdoll mini boy), "bear girl" (Puyoo), "dfh" (mostly for mini girls) etc. Unfortunately, trend cycles have also been speeding up with dolls it seems, so this changes a lot as something specific gains a lot traction again. Should your doll be labubu-sized, you'll have a field day rn lol :lol:
       
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    6. I remember in the 2010s there were more yo sd and msd sculpts back then. I personally see a lot more 60+ cm sculpts nowadays.
       
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    7. That covers pretty much exactly what I was going to say, except there are some taller MSD size trends for both boys and girls too, so that scale seems to have spread in all directions with less representation in the old "standard" MSD sizes, as far as I've seen

      Teddy
       
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    8. I think it would be less confusing for everyone in the hobby if each was labeled differently ie: slim mini is a good example. Collecting older dolls it would be nice to see *true MSD* which reference VOLKS MSD size or even if it said VOLKS MSD size. Definitely makes searches difficult. I made the mistake of custom ordering an outfit even giving exact sizing and the artist sent what would fit *slim mini* not *true MSD* I even explained in the pre-comission stage that MSD size was a brand specific term. But I guess nothing has caught on like those old VOLKS terms.
       
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    9. It is very hard to find any 1/3 scale doll under 68cm these days.
       
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    10. This is all so interesting... I could tell that the variety had exploded, but it was much harder to sort out what was most popular, and not just available. The existence of "Uncle" as a term and a size really threw me, I thought it was very funny! Though it does do a good job conveying the idea; physically more mature and the proportions follow. And it IS confusing at this point, those Volks-based terms, since "MSD"s are even "SDM" now... I'll certainly have to keep that in mind about slim MSDs, for one thing.

      It's fascinating to me on some level that the market has skewed towards larger boys over 60 or even 65cm, since that seems like a seriously big hunk of resin. I got an SD16 when they were first released, and were some of the largest dolls available at that time, and boy he seemed so big and heavy. But I suspect it also gives you more room for detail and engineering. And the "tech" side has likely improved significantly in that time, too, that's a lot of years for companies and artists to refine their processes and designs.

      I remember back in the day at meets we'd often do impromptu "size comparison" pics, just lay everyone's dolls down and try to get the biggest size range possible. Very briefly, I did personally have the entire Volks size range. I always loved seeing that variety. But I suspect it was much easier to pull off anything comprehensive then! (I got into BJDs in 2004, I'm just bones now.)

      Certainly realizing my dolls are truly dinosaurs at this point! My "newest" is from 2017 at latest. They definitely have a different head/body ratio than dolls now, it seems, and bigger heads overall as well (closer to 9-10 than 8-9). When I decided to get a new big boy after getting back into dolls, I went Volks SD17 since all of mine are except my tiny (I have a Pukipuki, also now rare I guess!)... but if I'd done more research first, and asked this question, I might have gone with a 70-72cm more modern lad! Just for clothing availability, even. I guess it's not too late, hah...
       
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    11. I've been aware of the hobby since ~2009 and an active participant since 2012 or so, and I concur with a lot of what has been said here. The most popular sizes seem to be big "Uncle" beefcakes, the 50cm sized down equivalents, petite/ultra-slim MSDs, Puyoo dolls, and MDDs. That said, as with most other hobbies with heavy social media presences, the cycle of what is popular has been speeding up, so it's harder to keep track if you're not actively buying/selling. Artist casting has also gained a lot of interest/momentum in recent years, so even if a size isn't typically considered "popular," it may go through brief renaissances in accordance with preorder announcements and deliveries.

      Traditional SD sizes have fallen out of favor by a lot, though, and as someone who generally prefers the 58-62cm range, it's a bit sad!

      I think you nailed it with regards to the Uncle size -- there's a lot of room for detail and engineering, which is especially important when you're looking for "cosdolls," or dolls to cosplay specific beloved characters from other media (looking at you, Love and Deep Space).

      You are also correct, what is "popular/on trend" in the hobby right now is basically synonymous with whatever is popular in the Chinese BJD community at the moment. I cannot read/speak Chinese, but from my secondhand understanding, the community over there has exploded in recent years, so most clothing/accessories brands are servicing what's popular in their native region at the moment.
       
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    12. Tangentially related, I've noticed that the clothing/accessories styles available for the popular sizes are also very different. With large dolls being so popular, there's lots of very elaborate fantasy outfits. I kind of miss the more simple punky lolita-esque style that was already outdated by the time I started the hobby ~10 years ago. Cute lolita dresses are still around of course but even those are more aligned with current fashion trends and are also a lot more detailed. Streetwear is also more common I think, which suits the larger male dolls which are proportioned more maturely. Years ago I really would have never guessed that China would be the epicenter of BJD trends given the prevalence of Korean dollmakers, but a large community and relative ease of access to manufacturing would do that I suppose!

      What I want to know is if 75cm will really be the limit and if girls will keep getting smaller! Maybe every dollmaker will soon have their own 1/2 boy and the standard girl will be Barbie sized!
       
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    13. @Thespian I too am biased to the 58-62 range! At least there are some makers who I think are similarly biased, they may be the ones keeping the clothing/accessories market going.

      I too would've expected South Korea to drive the trends more heavily than China, if I'd been asked to predict years ago. But it sounds like they're a massive, passionate market, which is exciting in itself! I suppose the US's aesthetic contribution was tall, "fashion doll"-proportion girls, though IIRC the Luts girls were trending that way prior to the launch of Volks' SD16 girl.

      @apple for you I also wonder if 75cm is where things will stay! Maybe 80cm or more just gets too unwiedly, and it would also be harder to have multiple dolls, just for space reasons, at some point. Perhaps the new frontier will be "what if tinier?" I have a Pukupuki, so I do have a soft spot for teensy weensy, even though it's much harder to make clothes and manage setting eyes at that size.

      I also admit I have been watching a lot of xianxia/wuxia shows lately, so even though my preferences skew modern, I find I am now very tempted by swooshy layers of the kind that might not suit my 60cm boys' builds so well. Plus I'd have to make them, so "maybe you should buy a larger boy" is a great solution to disliking working with sheers, right? Hahah. But I see why the Chinese market is into dolls with broad shoulders and snatched waists; they do look lovely in fantasy/period clothes, and 70-75cm may well be a better scale to work at for it.
       
    14. I completely agree that 70+ is the new size range for 1/3 boys! I'm in the process of upgrading my oldest boy to a 70cm as he looks out of place with my newer tall boys.

      I think the biggest gap from the hobby at the moment though, is the dissappearance of "Big Baby" dolls. There don't appear to be many companies left that sell them. I think the most recent loss was Luts discontinuing their Baby Delf line...
       
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    15. Different sizes of dolls are popular in some regions over others.

      The most popular size in South Korea are tinies apparently. They are also especially popular with children (I think the equivalent of our late grade school and middle school). I think MSDs are second most popular — they get less popular the larger they go over there.

      In the west, it’s MSDs, especially slim MSDs. Apparently there are a few companies, including Fairyland, who only sell from an English page for instance. I found out from a South Korean wiki on BJDs that a lot of hobbyists there aren’t even aware that Fairyland is a domestic company for them.

      Then there’s the big dolls, 70cm, especially male dolls that are popular in China. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is also the driving force behind female dolls trending on the larger side as well, 65cm seems to be more popular than 60cm used to be.

      Not sure which size is most popular in Japan — I just know that Volks is by far the most popular. If I had to guess it would still be 60cm girls, but I am not totally sure about that!

      Anyway I definitely fit the trend of the west lol. I love MSDs, though I really like taller MSDs! Most of my dolls are MSDs as is the majority of what tends to be on my wishlist. No Fairyland for me though.
       
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    16. @Cats56 that's true, I hadn't thought about it, but the Big Babies are gone! I never had any, but that is too bad. I've always thought they were super cute.

      @Leenah I had no idea about Fairyland! That's fascinating. And yeah I can totally see, in the right market where they're accessible and people are aware of them, tinies being great for middle schoolers. They're so easy to put in a little bag and carry with you.

      I definitely think the popularity of xianxia and danmei in China right now is informing some of the BJD preferences, too. Those tall lads just look so good in flowy fantasy outfits, and I suspect it makes it easier to do the resin armor and crowns and such as well, just a bit bigger and with a different line to the bodies.

      And yeah, I haven't been to Japan in years, though I did go to a Dolpa once when I was there. The dolly fashion sense in Japan was definitely quite different, so it tracks that they might have different taste in stylization and sizes, too. It was quite heavily larger girl dolls there then, at least in my sample.
       
    17. For the male sculpts, it's definitely the uncle sizes (70+cm's). In fact, it is sooo popular that it frustrates me to no end that most of the dorrie clothes I want to buy only cater to the these big bois.