Representing your doll sexually?

I don't mind shots that are sexual if they're artistically done, if attention is paid to lighting and shadow, and it seems like it was done with care to express something, either about the character the doll represents or just about the photographer's artistic sensibility.

I love vintage lingerie and old pinup stuff, so I like seeing photoshoots that remind me of that kind of thing, stuff from the twenties through the fifties in terms of style (it's a pretty wide timeline, I guess, but that was where I like the evolution of 'girly pictures'). That kind of thing can seem playful and tasteful to me, and even though the some of those eras were a long way back in terms of women's rights, today those sort of shots can feel very female-friendly/empowering, depending on how they're done (even back then, there were plenty of pinup girls who were clearly 'in charge', so...). Of course, I have only boys, so... I haven't done anything like that yet...

I suppose it would kind of cross into the squick territory for me if the same photographer went from 'these are like children to me' to 'sexy!', but then again I also understand casually referring to dolls as 'my babies' or 'the kids' but not actually viewing them that way... so I can also see how there could be misunderstandings on the viewer side.

I guess... I like seeing sexy dolls being sexy, if it's right for their characters, if nobody is being disrespected/hurt by it-- proper warnings in place for nudity et al. Sometimes the shots are beautiful, and I appreciate them as art. It can be fun and it can be beautiful, even if I don't find the actual dolls to be sexually exciting.

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Anneko

 

To be honest, I think it's best to just follow what is legally accepted for humans. For example, I have no issue with two adult-looking dolls engaged in what appears to be consentual sex. Throw in non-con or dolls that are obviously designed to have the physical likeness of children and then I think that it is morally unacceptable.

While one could argue that dolls aren't human, they only share a human likeness, I think that the above limitation should be applied anyway. I think depicting human-like objects performing acts that would be morally reprehensible/illegal for humans is equally morally reprehensible as it displays an attitude that is accepting of those behaviours in real humans.

HOWEVER. If someone wants to take photos of their adult dolls in sexual situations, it's their choice. If I don't like it when I accidentally stumble across it, that is what my back button is for. And possibly my bottle of brain-bleach.

 

To the question of "would you take pics like that", yes. I'm planning on buying two dolls that'll clearly be in a pretty sexual relationship. They're a married couple of weird people. The sex would be pretty lame though, me being asexual and not understanding a shit's worth about it.
I have a pretty peculiar way of thinking about sex. I might not even think of doing something like a photoshoot were I sexual XD Still, I love certaind kinds of adult relationships. Them not being nervous about the fact they're having sex, but just peacefully showing their relationship that has been true for a long time. It may be quite utopistic, but I love stories like that. I might not even have stories with my younger characters kissing, because I find it annoying how people of my age (or a bit younger, 13-17 years) run into relationships all excited and mostly wanting the kissing and stuff. I'm biased though, not being able to understand what they feel.
Still, I don't think it'll be easy to do something like that with dolls. Their lips won't match and it'll be difficult to make them so close to each other. I might freak out and stop halfway through when I actually try to do it. XD

 

I agree with you... mostly I too tend to view the limits of dolly-OK behaviour as comparable to human-OK behaviour, probably dolls look so realistic. If I see what looks like rape, child abuse, etc, then yes I will squick, and if it's on a forum such as dA which has strict rules about such things, I feel no qualms in reporting them.

However, if people want to take pictures of their dolls in those sort of situations and then keep them for their own personal viewing, then I don't really feel I have a right to judge them for it. If lolicon or showtacon (sp?) makes someone happy and they like playing with their dolls that way in their own private space, well, who are they really hurting? If they were taking pictures of actual children, that would be a different matter. But they're just dolls and if they're keeping things private then as far as I'm concerned, that's their business.
Though I know not everyone feels that way- a while ago in the UK, a politician wanted to make lolicon drawings illegal, so you could actually be arrested for having or creating a DRAWING of children. I thought that was going too far. If the drawing was based on a photo, then yes, that's harming children. If it's come from the artist's imagination, then it's an infringement on their freedom of expression and I'm against that.

How I feel about sexual dolly photography depends on its execution. If it's done well, it can be beautiful- sensual, passionate, playful, and very artistic. If it's done just for the hell of it I can't stand it: for example, I've seen hundreds of pics of some naked doll lying on a piece of cloth with its legs apart, no care whatsoever in posing or composition, and no thought to the photography at all. That just irritates me. But, however! If someone enjoys taking those kind of photos and keeps them for their own use- whatever that may be- then, well, go ahead. But I don't want to see them XD

A general rule about good sexual doll photography is DO NOT be too explicit. Dollie junk rarely looks good under the lens.

As for my own dolls, I have been known to take vaguely sexual pics of the sexual dolls. Not all my dolls are sexual- one of them is asexual and the other is a bit too repressed to know anything about it. As I'm also asexual, I can only appreciate doll pictures for their photographic interest, not for sexual kicks, so maybe I'm missing out

 

It doesn't bother me at all really. I honestly don't consider it all too different from people who draw porn - if they want to do it and it's not hurting anybody, what's the problem? It all depends on what qualifies as distasteful to people. I don't consider someone posing their doll sexually distasteful - however, if someone posed them sexually with themselves and posted it, I might be a little more hesitant lol. But in general, I am a firm believer of hitting the back button on your browser if you don't like something, as long as it's not breaking rules/laws.

In the end it all comes down to the fact that people will do with their dolls what they please, and it really isn't anybody's business to say otherwise. If they want to take porny doll pics with a grainy webcam? Not your place to say no. If they want to take porny pics that are artistic and well shot? Still not your place to say no. Live and let live, as long as they aren't trying to cyber with your own doll, y'know. The doll isn't gonna cry itself to sleep if it poses naked.

 

It doesn't bother me and I do take this type of pix. However, I only do it with their respective partners, as it fits their characters and plotlines. I'm not just randomly taking adult pix just to be doing it. And most are never posted online, or are in a locked album for specific friends to see only. (Like if they own one of the dolls involved). This way, no one stumbles across my dolls being inappropriate accidentally. :P

I DO call my dolls my kids, however, I don't mean it as in actual "children". More like they are my kids, but are adult kids. Everybody is SOMEBODY's kid, no matter what your age or what you are doing. Any and all dolls that have had nude pix taken in a sexual way are of legal "age". I will not take pix of my child dolls like that. I won't even body blush them! But I am also aware that I am taking artistic pictures of resin, not flesh and blood human children. They might be my "kids" but they are VERY different from the real thing.

As far as offending people, all I can say is if you want to take explicit pix, make sure there is a warning on the thread so others who do not want to see it don't. And if you are offended by these things, just don't look. Everyone has the right to artistic freedom, and like-wise, everyone has the right to not have things they find offensive thrown in their faces.

 

Explicit pictures are not appropriate in Gallery threads here in any case, the forum is for members aged 13 onwards, so threads do need to be clearly marked so that members can make an informed choice about what they view on the forum.

I think that's the important part of respecting everyone's freedoms really, making sure that you have labelled everything as correctly as possible so that people can avoid it if it's not their thing, and people can search for it if it is.

I'm not really into doll sexuality, I can see how someone with characters behind their dolls may have active relationships between the dolls in their collection because it's to do with the character more than the physical doll, but it doesn't happen with my dolls and I doubt it would. My Dollfie Dream has a mature body, so no one would mistake her for a child, but my SD10 Megu (her character is definitely an adult to me) I can see how someone else would think of her as much younger. She has a round, youthful face and a softly developed body, small breasts and not particularly wide hips, so even though I know she's an adult, other people could see her and feel that she is a child, particularly with the series name 'SD10' which is what her age is supposed to be according to Volks.

I like pictures of tasteful nude dolls as much as I like pictures of tasteful nude people, the human body is a work of art and a BJD body is an artwork based on a work of art That does not bother me in the slightest. I'm not really interested in sleaze though, and a lot of the explicit photoshoots I have seen have come across as incredibly sleazy. I might be converted to dolly sexuality if the photoshoots conveyed the connection between the two dolls and focused on that rather than as much nudity and controversy as possible, plainly depicting a resin dolly humping another resin dolly which does not interest me in the slightest.

 

There is always ConDoll for those who do like and want to share their dolly erotica or pornography or whatever you want to call it. I am not bothered by it in the slightest, nor am I bothered by erotica, pornography, or whatever you want to call it involving real people. I think erotica and porn are the same thing but with different labels to make one socially acceptable to like.

If you see something you don't like, the internet is a wonderful place because you can hit the back button and not have to look at it anymore. No one is forcing you to take pornographic pictures of your doll and DoA doesn't allow anything rated PG-13 or higher, so really, if it offends you, you are pretty safe from it on DoA.

I think it's actually pretty difficult to take convincing pictures of doll pornography simply due to the composition of the dolls and the limits of their jointing systems and all around inability to move like people. For those who can convincingly pull off an actually arousing sex scene, I tip my hat to them because it requires a lot of photographic skill. Most of the time it just looks sort of silly, but if it's what they like, then more power to them.

 

It's hard for me to say. What is 'morally acceptable' is entirely subjective. It varies from one person to another, one culture to another, etc etc etc.
I squick at things like rape, certain portrayals of child porn, certain fetishes, but depending on where it's posted, I generally don't feel that I (or anybody else) has a right to judge the OP. Of course there are places such as DOA and DevArt that have rules against posting such content (not that the latter does anything to stop it, at least on the fem!porn side of things =_=, ahem), but there are places such as ConDoll and personal blogs where, to me, it is perfectly fine to post these things (assuming, of course, everything has it's proper warning).

 

I don't mind doll erotica and have done a few shoots in that style, but I much prefer it to be tasteful (i.e., two in a bed but keeping everything X-rated under the sheets) and that's my preference in photos of others' dolly pairings as well.

 

Ive seen too much teenager MSD doll with SD adult doll that make me raise an eyebrow about these person. I'm not judging but its not morally correct for me. I'm not the one who will order people to do things anyway so I just close those pages but to answer the question its a big no for me.

The only thing I agree with is 2 adult BJd, and even of that its doesnt interest me.

 

I have and I will again. O.o I rarely (if ever) post any of those pics up where they can be seen (mostly due to limitations of where I can post, but meh). I honestly don't care what people do with their dolls, so long as it makes them happy. If other people find it to be distasteful or whatever, as said above, that's what the back button is for on your browser.


At the same time, the only thing I have a problem with is adult dolls and child-like dolls or two (or more) child-like dolls in a sexual setting. But I apply my motto to myself of "don't like, don't look."

 

Hmm, I don't really care what other people do with thier dolls.

I'd like to try a pinup-style photoshoot sometime, actually, preferrebly in a tastefull manner bordering on artistic. I do realize that it probably caters to somebody's fetishs, but for me, it's more of a playfull imitation of a very pretty reality rather than something lustworthy. They're plastic dolls, while erotizising them is hard, making them look beautifull should be a fun challenge. It's hard to explan, but the kind of images I'm thinking of are more artistic photospreads that happen to feature underwear/nudity rather than having a lady spread her legs on camera. Somebody mentioned pinups from the 20's-50's, that's the kind of style I'd like to capture.

 

Hmm, it's a tough subject.

Many doll owners have characters for their dolls, and some of their characters may have a strong sexual nature. Now of course on this forum there are limits and you won't see any dollies going at it, but there will be lingerie and even nude photos of dolls. These photos are usually for art.
And some people may even appreciate the nudity of the doll just as much as they would it's face sculpt.

As for the issue of seeing these dolls as your 'children' and taking photos of them like that I can see where you may find that disturbing. But even still they really are just beautiful pieces of resin and not real children lol. Now of course if you have a Yo-SD and you're taking 'sexy pics' of her then that might be a problem. As long as people are using common sense and thinking what might be acceptable to display then showing off a little bit of your doll's 'sexuality' as an art form isn't all that bad.

 

I'm not really into the doll nudity. A splashily if the owner is making there dolls have sex in the photo. A tasteful way yes but other then that no.

 

All of my dolls are characters from the novels I write and those novels generally have a fairly heavy sexual content. So, to me, taking pics of the couples I have in explicit positions/situations is simply continuing in a visual medium what I do in a written form.

For the most part, pics/photostories that I do that are explicit in nature are on my LJ and there are always warnings as to what is under the cut. And I am a big fan of the back button. If someone clicks on the cut when it says NC-17 rated for explicit doll porn, I'd have to say they know what they're getting themselves into.

The majority of my dolls are also MSD, but they are painted to look more mature and most have a mature body. I do have a couple that is an MSD and a short SD, but it is essential as one character is 6'-3" and the other is 7'-0" and having an MSD/SD pair was the only way to have that represented.

 

I don't take a lot of pics of my dolls anyway -- I always mean to, then never get around to it. I'm not as interested personally in taking a lot of sexual pics. Not because it's something that bothers me, but just because there are other things I'd like to focus on. A lot of dolls have characters and stories attached, and therefore have relationships and yes, even sex. If you look at dolls as you would any other creative medium, then it shouldn't be particularly shocking as sexual encounters appear frequently in literature, film, etc.

Not everybody think of their dolls as their kids, and to some who refer to them that way, their resin 'kids' maybe grown up Also, while there are some extremes in sculpts who will always look like nothing but an adult or small child, most are a lot more flexible and can be made to look younger or older and some of it comes down to individual perception. So while something might be distasteful to you and that's fine, do remember that what may seem like a younger doll to you, maybe older to it's owner. For instance none of my minis are children and they have very standard mini bodies. For some reason a lot of the slim mini sculpts have never really called to me.

Personally, people can do whatever they want with their dolls. They are dolls, and as such make a pretty good way to explore different subject matter. As long as people use proper etiquette and label their posts, I have no issues. That doesn't mean I enjoy everything that's out there, but I'm ok with it being there. If I don't like something, I just use the back button and go on to something I like better. As for the respect thing -- if it would be out of character for one of my dolls to have a sexy photoshoot done, then it would make me uncomfortable to do it. BUT, that's my doll and my doll's character whom I created and know inside and out, and I can't apply that to other people's dolls. In the end, taking nude shoots, even poorly done ones, isn't hurting the dolls any. The trick to any subject matter is being able to actually set up and take good photos, and it's also the most challenging thing to do. Naturally there will be varying levels of success.

 

I don't take pictures like that of my dolls, but then again I don't have any adult dolls. My tinies are all children and my minis and sd are all around 14-16. The only thing remotely "sexual" two of my minis have ever done is hold hands and cuddle while sitting together on the shelf. It's more cute and sweet than anything. If I did have a doll that was meant to be older and looked the part then sure, I could see doing an underwear shoot or something a bit more heated if I had a pair of them. It still wouldn't be with nudes or anything explicit, not to say that that nudity=explicit situation, but that's just me.

I don't mind or care if someone wants to do that or more with their dolls. I don't have to look at it if I don't want to.