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The dolls you gave up

Dec 10, 2009

    1. Since I bought my second doll of marketplace, I´ve been wondering whether his previous owner would like to see what I will turn him into. I know she loved the doll so honestly, I am a bit nervous what will she think, after she sees his new look (for now he got couple of facial piercings).
      So my questins are:

      When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it? Do you look at the photos new owner posts? If yes, how does it make you feel? (I´d also like to hear particular sories, if it ever made you sad what the previous owner did with the doll or at the other hand, happy).

      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?

      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?

      (Pardon any grammar mistake as I am not native speaker:( )
       
    2. Short answers: No, no, and no.

      I have "stayed in contact" with friends that I gave dolls to as gifts, and people that I was already friends with who happened to buy dolls I was selling, but in all those cases the doll has nothing to do with the continued contact. It's because I like the people.
       
    3. When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it? Do you look at the photos new owner posts? If yes, how does it make you feel?
      - I once bought a doll head from a friend, but right after getting him sold him off to pay for an older character. I felt kind of bad about it and have tried to find photos of him now, but the user hasn't posted any. He was with my friend a while and though he isnt the character he was before he still recieved alot of love.

      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?
      - I haven't really, once the doll is their's its no longer mine, ive only ever sold heads, no full doll so that might be why.

      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?
      - Not at all, my 1st boy is completely different from how he was and i didnt ask the seller or anything. I told her my plans for him once he was on his way and she was excited. But hes my boy now, nothing like he was before.
       
    4. I've sold a couple of dolls and I'm always interested to know what the new owner intends on doing with him/her, and in two cases the new owners have even sent me pictures of the doll in his/her new home, which is brilliant to see and made me absolutely delighted each time! :D I would never 'stalk' people I sell to to see what they're doing with a doll I sold them, though if I see their name on a Gallery thread featuring that doll I'll drop by to have a quick look and leave a comment just as I would with any other interesting Gallery post. I can't say I've ever felt sad or bad about seeing photos of dolls I've sold since the main thing is that their new owners love them and are happy to have them, so I always feel a bit of happiness myself when I see that. I'd much rather a doll was being well taken care of and cherished in a new home than staying with me and being unloved for whatever reason.

      In the same way, when I buy a doll from the marketplace the doll becomes mine and I can do whatever I please with him/her: I certainly don't think twice about changing the looks and character to one of my own, and I wouldn't buy from anyone who insisted I kept a doll's previous features in any way -- my money, my doll. Simple as that.
       
    5. I can only say this from the other side as I have never sold a doll, but, I have actually kept characters of dolls I have brought, like a personality for them. Some I have completely changed, but some have definitly stayed the same, such as the case of Mitsu and Keizo <3. The seller didn't want to separate them and out of respect I took them both and kept their names and backstory ^^
       
    6. I've only sold one doll, mainly because she was so small my cats were running away with her parts!! She was a Pukipuki Pipi named Miffy and I watch to see if her new owner posts photos of her. I bought her secondhand myself, and kept her name and character. Every doll has their own personality that they fit into as part of their mold. I think that every doll you ever own, bonded well or not, always has a special place in your heart. I know that if I sold any of my current dolls (never gonna happen!!) I would want to watch and be sure they were happy and well taken care of.
       
    7. Thank you for your replies :)
      I find it amusing that people keep the character of the doll previous owner gave them. But it kind off makes sense to me. Once the doll is given a personality, it somehow grows on it and changing may feel unnatural.

      Nathansgirl1989:
      That´s mostly how I feel. I don´t think I will ever sell any of my dolls but if that somehow happend I would like to make sure that they were taken good care of :)
       
    8. Thats what I like to do, take in peoples dolls and look after them xD
       
    9. 1000014: Haha it sounds like the idea of taking pets from shelter :D But I always felt like that about marketplaceXD You buy a doll and you save it by giving it a loving home :D
       
    10. Occasionally, I've sold a doll to someone who has really nice dolls and has said they've got great plans for the one they bought from me... so in a month or two, I go, "Oh, wonder how that's going," and I'll look to see if they've posted photos. If they're good photos, it's just another nice doll out in the world now. If I don't like the photos, big whoop.

      When I buy a doll, it becomes my property. I owe the previous owner no favor and don't waste my time worrying over how they think it'll look. If they love the doll so much, they should have kept it.
       
    11. I never sold a doll but I thought about it much. Does that count, too? ^^;

      When you would sell a doll, would you keep track of it?
      If i had to sell because I need money then I would because i love my dolls. If that wasn't the fact, I'd probably not.
      Would you look at the photos the new owner posts?
      Yes.
      If yes, how would it make you feel?
      Depends on how much the doll itself is changed and how good the change is. When the doll is kept that way and if that was my work I would be honoured (I bought a doll with such a nice kabuki-face-up. It still has it but I don't know whether the owner knows or likes it). If my previous doll was changed to the worse though I would be sad. Like, imagine a cute Teenie Gem with glued on boobs and bad done new face-up. That kind of worse.
      Have you ever considered staying in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?
      Yes. But only if ther person wants to. I feel it would make him/her feel bad.
      When buying dolls from marketplace, would it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?
      Yes, when the owner's bonding with this doll is heavy. No, when's just a doll for him/her and nothing more.
       
    12. When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it?

      No. I've only sold two dolls ever, and they have been sold because I no longer cared for them and I knew they could have better homes. Aka, I've only sold dolls I was 100% sure I wouldn't miss at all.

      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?

      With the 2 dolls I've sold, I would like to keep in contact, but it's more a matter of being excited about what the new owner is doing to keep the dolls in good condition and take care of them.

      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?

      No. I figure anyone selling a doll is prepared for such a thing, and as a faceup artist, I tend to plan on changing a doll's faceup with very few exceptions, so I don't get any nervousness.
       
    13. When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it?

      I've only sold a head, and no, I didn't keep track of it. I have seen it since, and thought it was wonderful how it turned out (and I told the new owner that also).

      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?

      No, I just sort of came across that one. If I sold to someone I was friends with online of course I would probably ask, but otherwise no. If I saw a gallery post with that doll I would definitely stop in and comment, but I wouldn't PM for updates or anything.

      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?

      I think about that a little, but once the doll is mine it's mine. I hope the previous owner's not disappointed in what I've done with it, but it doesn't bother me a lot. I was most concerned with the boy head I wiped the factory faceup from and made a girl. I've not heard from the previous owner at all, but then I've not heard much from the previous owners of my other dolls either. I think generally it may be best to make a clean break from the doll when selling it, and that may include NOT checking up on what's been done with it at it's new home.
       
    14. When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it? Do you look at the photos new owner posts? If yes, how does it make you feel?
      There was a doll who had a very unique face-up, he was on the only one on the board at the time. The person who bought him off me sold him again instantly (which made me kind of sad :/) and I lost track of him. But several months later I spotted the doll with the same face-up in the gallery and I had to ask if they bought him off the marketplace. Turns out they did! So now I've found out he's gone to a good loving home~

      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?
      One in particular was the first doll I sold, which I sold to my friend in Scotland. She loves him so much, she took him outside and showed me photos of him playing in the snow. It made me so happy to see him in a home where he was really loved. I've even gotten to meet him again in person since then! He's a totally new doll now.

      I always get really happy to see dolls I've sold off in homes where they're truely loved. I wonder if the people who've sold me dolls before are happy to see I still have them?

      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?
      Well once the doll is sold to you, you can do whatever you please with it really.
       
    15. When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it? Do you look at the photos new owner posts? If yes, how does it make you feel?

      I've never done this before but then I've never sold a full doll until recently. In the most recent case I did want to see if the new owner posted pictures. It was reassuring to me when they did because it helped me stop feeling guilty for selling. I felt that I should because this particular doll wasn't getting any attention anymore but my justification for finally selling was that he would be loved more by whoever bought him and seeing that he was helped quell any lingering doubts.

      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?

      I'm afraid not. I've been in contact with some buyers for a while afterward but it usually trails off.

      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?

      Usually not. The first time I bought from the marketplace it terrified me and I even asked the person I was buying from if they would be upset if I changed the doll's looks or character and they said I didn't need to worry--that once I paid for it it was mine and I could do whatever I wanted. So now I just sort of go by that logic when buying.
       
    16. Fortunately, I've never given up any of my dolls and have no plans to, ever. I have sold a Nanuri gift head and a Puki Pukisha head, and even regret doing that. Frankly, it'll be a cold day in hell before I give up a single one of my dolls :) I loves them!
       
    17. When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it? Do you look at the photos new owner posts? If yes, how does it make you feel?
      I've sold two heads before to the same person, but I was so disattched to them that by the time they were out of my house, I only checked in with the owner once to make sure she recieved them alright and that was that. I don't visit the galleries much anyhow and if I happened to see them being posted on the boards I'd probably check out of curiosity, but I hardly think I'd care one way or another what was being done to them.
      I've also sold another full doll before, an he was a little more difficult to pull away from, though it was really only his character I loved and not so much his doll form. After I sold him his new owner would occasionaly share pictures with me of how he was doing, created as a new character which helped cut those final ties. I now have his character shelled in a new form, his new owner has already sold him off yet again and quite frankly I'm a little relieved I don't know where he is now.


      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?
      As mentoned above I only kept in contact once with someoe I sold a doll to, but even since then our communication had ceased.


      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?
      I'm not buying another person's character, I'm buying their doll. I am buying this doll to be MY character and after plunking down my money for it I see no reason whyI shouldn't be allowed to do that. Even so, this is really one big reason I've bought my second hand dolls face-upless, which I do when I'm buying straight from a company as well. When he doll arrivesto me blank I'm looking at him 'raw', only his sculpt, the face I fell in love with and not pretty paint that can entirely alter the way a doll looks.
       
    18. When you sell a doll, do you keep track of it? Do you look at the photos new owner posts? If yes, how does it make you feel?

      No, although I would be happy to see them in the gallery once in awhile. I have seen the Benetia I traded a couple times and I like to see her. The one doll I wonder about is my Luts Lishe which I sold awhile ago. She was my first so I wonder how she is doing but I would never ask the new owner about her.


      Have you ever stayed in contact with the person who bought your doll to ask him how he/she is doing?
      No. Although if I sold to a friend I would probably visit the doll and see how it's getting on.

      When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?
      No. I don't mind changing the doll. Although if it had some awesome look and backstory I might keep the name or something.
       
    19. When buying dolls from marketplace, does it make you nervous, changing its looks and character with regard to the previous owner?
      My only girl is second hand and I knew absolutely nothing about her character when I bought her. I saw her and knew that I liked her sculpt. I scrubbed her face within the first couple of weeks, replaced her eyes, and her wig. She's my doll, and what she was in her "past life" is irrelevant.
       
    20. I've never sold a doll, and I don't think I could unless we really, really, really didn't click, but I have purchased two from the marketplace. For me I wouldn't mind sending little pictures and updates of the dollies to let the past owners know that they were in good hands. If I was to ever sell my dolls (No no no!) I would hope to see how they were doing, but it also might make me sad to see them elsewhere XD It kinda makes me think of how I see people selling dolls on the marketplace when they are needing money fast. I wouldn't sell my dolls. I'd be sad ;.; (It also bring me to another question, but isn't really on topic to this. I always wondered why people who 'need money' and sell their dolls also have a 'willing to trade this doll for this doll' in the post. Do they need money or are they just wanting a different doll? XD) Who knows... But anyway, I'd share pictures and info about the dolls with past owners as long as they didn't try to treat them as still being theirs.