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Are ball joints ugly?

Sep 30, 2008

    1. Joints are "naturall" for these dolls, otherwise they would lose some of they charming looks ;)
       
    2. I remember when I first saw bjds I really didn't like the joints and never thought I could get used to them. However when I got my first bjd I soon realised that very quickly I didn't notice them anymore! The benefits far outweigh any negatives in my opinion!
       
    3. Well that's just kind of the nature of the beast, and something I love about BJD's.
       
    4. The beauty of the doll itself minimizes the impact of visual ball joints. It is kind of like when you meet an average looking person who becomes really really beautiful in your eyes because they are a delight to be around and create many positive feelings. Sure hope this makes sense.
       
    5. My Mum feels the same way, she's not mean about it but she just wishes the joints didn't stick out so much. However, I actualy like the joints, they're what sepperate BJDs from ordinary dolls. This might sound funny to some people but its only my opinion; I think BJDs are beautiful creatures of art, just like people think the Human body is beautiful I feel the same about BJDs. Sometimes it might be annoying if you're trying to make a picture realistic, but over all I think the joints are appealing :)
       
    6. Part of what got me into the hobby is those awesome joints (but some of the double joints I don't care for) I have some antique ball jointed dolls, abjd are a lot more flexible, its not really alike that much (and that "18th century technology" has held up rather well and can cost more than an ABJD).

      Can't please everyone though, with someone like your friend I'd just not bother arguing over something like ball joints, seems like a waste of time. You must have had other interests in common to be friends before you got into ABJD anyways.
       
    7. Do you remember the bendy knees on Barbi? That technique was very interesting and could hold promise because no joint showed. However, I believe Mattel has a gazillion patents on various things and since you don't see this on other fashion dolls, I think this is patented.
       
    8. I started off really disliking visible joints, but Nayo usually wore stuff that covered them up anyways. Now, not so much. I don't know when it happened, but they seem to have grown on me, and they're just natural now; it'd look odd to see one of my guys WITHOUT their joints. Recently posted a picture on DOA with Kellion's foot/ankle as the main subject (still a little iffy on the DOD ankles, but not as bad as before) and one of my friends was kind of like 'whut', and eventually said it looked like a tumor. I was a little offended (why she felt the need to say that, I dunno), but it made me laugh really hard because it's kind of true. I still love Kelli's tumor infested ankles though (And Zaffys, And Lou's when he gets a body).
       
    9. I dont think so. When I first saw them I thought they were interesting but the posabilty and the face up of the dolls themselves overshadowed the ball joints. Now I dont even see them.
       
    10. I honestly don't mind them, not only do they give for awesome movement but they also set them apart from other dolls.
       
    11. Your friend sounds like one of mine, I tried explaining that it's the whole package, the personality that you give your doll, the clothes, the face-up, that endear the doll to you, but she just didn't get it. Some people can't get past the joints and it's just the way they feel no matter how beautiful the doll is. Personally, i wasn't crazy about the joints much, but they have kinda grown on me, and I love my doll even more because of them, it's sad that your friend has such a strong feelings about it, but it shouldn't be that big of a deal, and they shouldn't make you feel like your being attacked simply because you have an interest in BJD.
       
    12. I hate certain joints, but I could easily just buy a head and a body that I *did* like the joints on!
       
    13. I'll admit, at first I disliked the joints when they were uncovered. It was new to me, to have obviously visible joints. But after I got used to them, I grew to love them. Now I adore them... joints are a big part of what makes these dolls the way they are. Because of the way these dolls are engineered, they have such amazing poseability and stability. :aheartbea

      I think there are some dolls on the market (other than Barbie) who utilize a similar jointing system as the hidden knee joint. I swear I saw some once... they weren't resin or strung, though. The only problem I had with those Barbie joints was that they'd wear out and get kind of floppy after a while... since my BJDs will be played with for years, I'd be afraid something like that wouldn't stand the test of time. :sweat
       
    14. Honestly the joints are part of what makes me love my dolls so much, there's something about them that just really appeals to me.
       
    15. When I got my first doll, I wondered how people could stand to have strapless dresses on them. Now I don't mind them at all. It's like the dolls have so much personality you don't notice the joints.
       
    16. For me, the joints toon some getting used to. But now that I have gotten used to them, I love them :) Dont let your friend get you down, especially about the barbies. Tell him that you paid for a well crafted, customizable, hand made doll that can STAND and not have any strange anatomy issues. (Barbie would be seven feet tall in real life and have a kids size three shoe size, a tiny waist and huge boobs that would cause her to break her back if she tried to stand up) Not that I dont like Barbie, it's just that BJDs are better
       
    17. I actually really like the joints! I find them fascinating, because it really brings my attention to the mechanics of the dolls--and for me, that's a major part of the allure. I can't recall ever thinking they're ugly. I usually notice the joints right away because I like seeing how different companies can do different things with the same general concept.
       
    18. I like most of the joints. They made these dolls more appealing to me. Some dolls have ugly joints.....I've got three dollzone dolls with some ugly wrist and ankle joints...but it doesn't take away from the rest of the doll.
       
    19. The first bjd I saw was on Pinterest, a large, Marina Bychova Enchanted doll, sans clothing, being held by the new owner, who had traveled to Italy to get her. I had never seen anything like that, and immediately checked out other bjd on Pinterest. I fell in love with the facial sculpts, as they were so unlike all other dolls and had an otherworldly beauty. I also found the joints intriguing, but not beautiful. I really was impressed with the posability and the ability to customize each doll. Soon I learned to appreciate the joints, some are very beautifully sculpted, some less so. It seems the more expensive the doll, the more joints she has, the more posable she is and the better the joints look. The more I looked, the more I grew to appreciate them. Now I particularly Ike those dolls with many joints. One company that has unashamedly highlighted the joints is Soom. I plan to have one of those.

      I can see that the joints seem strange at once, but they are why I treasure these dolls. I suppose sometime in the future, a 'skin' ,will be incorporated, to go over a 'skeleton of the doll. Maybe it would be removable once a year, for replacement, and would slide on like a leotard, with the seam at the back. The seam would disappear when the heat of the iron or hair dryer.
       
    20. At first, I didn't really like the joints because it felt more like an action figure than a doll, but after seeing some photoshopped out...I think I do like joints. They don't look natural without them, they look like a stiff statue, even if they do a good job shopping them out. I like the joints best that have more of a "shield" than peanut or blocky piece. It hides strings and looks so much smoother and prettier.