Asleep Eidolon (AE Int'l) minis discussion part 2

[MENTION=62245]Karmiya[/MENTION]: I'm afraid I've never tried out those hands myself. xP Out of curiousity, could you take some pictures of the hands that were giving you trouble? Sounds like they were a pain in the butt to deal with though. x 3x; I wish more doll companies used mag-on hands.

Anywho, took a quick snapshot of my Coral, Riyo wearing some glasses I cut out from a sheet of transparencies I bought from rawkiss on Etsy. They were just for testing out, but daaaang they look cute on her. * A *

 

Congrats, that's so exciting! I have a Coral too. Here's my Aurora (Sleeping Beauty)

Oh no! What a shame. I've never heard of those hands, but I think I'll avoid them now.

Your Riyo is adorable Singull!

 

@littlegreycoconut: I think it's actually not the hands but just the s-hooks being a pain. I also have an Only-Doll whose wrists are totally unsuited to hand-changing, despite having different hands available, bc in the first gen body the hooks are totally closed. Anyway, these glamour hands are really very nice, with the double-jointed wrist and cute little sculpted fingernails which would look great with polish, but the difficulty in attaching them is a turn-off ><

Ooh. Short of just doing magnet hands... they should come with their own s-hooks which are at the right configuration for them already! Because as it is, I think I might need to tighten the hook to get these hands on, but if that doesn't work, well, it's really hard to loosen the hook again to fit the original hands.

Aurora looks lovely, and the lighting in your photo is great, too. I think it's just a trick of the light, but the silk ribbon almost looks like one of those fancy ones with variegated dyeing- it's a nice effect ^^

@Singull: Riyo looks great! And ooh, so that's what printed glasses look like. I've always been leery of the printed glasses, but they work really well!

I'll probably take a picture of the hands tomorrow. I tried today, but the lighting was really bad and I didn't have the energy to schlepp out any extra lamps, so my pictures all turned out awful.


edit: https://www.mintoncardinc.com/dolls...name=1/4+AE+Girl+Glamor+Hands&cat=72&DOLL=YES
Here's the link to the hands! I think you can see them on all of the promo pics for Coral, though? I got them ages ago because they were in stock when I was ordering my also in stock Pear, and since AE has such a long ordering time, I thought, 'why not' and have had them hanging around ever since.

 

[MENTION=54859]littlegreycoconut[/MENTION]: Thanks! I love her soooo much. :3 Thinking of getting her a new wig though. The one she currently has is the perfect color, but it's so frizzy. x_x;
[MENTION=62245]Karmiya[/MENTION]: Thank you! Yeah the printed glasses are pretty great, just a pain to cut out. xD; Look a lot more realistic than other glasses I've seen for dolls, imo.

Ahh, those hands. I was tempted to get them, but those nails just aren't Riyo's thang. xD

 

[MENTION=36740]Singull[/MENTION]: Oh gosh, I'd have to break out the x-acto knife, then! After a lifetime of teachers saying 'oh, you're left-handed, ok someone else cut this out for her' whenever the scissors would refuse to work, I'm incurably dreadful with them, even if they're left-handed scissors. But the physical doll glasses are always so bulky...

I did just find this seller on etsy who makes nice-looking glasses: https://www.etsy.com/listing/214839...&ga_search_query=bjd glasses&ref=sr_gallery_1
I'd be tempted, but they aren't in the colours or shape I'd want...

Riyo's hair looks great, but even through the photo I can tell that it's a frizzy mane of Hermione Granger proportions. Which is great, but tough on a doll wig. Every time you try to style them hairs inevitably come out, and they won't grow back like ours! What new wig are you thinking of getting for her?

I'm getting excited about painting the nails now, actually! I have some new s-hooks and elastics coming (just in case), so I can test how to get the wrist joints on the s-hooks without the constant 'what if I change something and the regular hands nor these can fit back on' drama xD

 

I went and look at those hands and .... they are pretty!
But I couldn't for the life of me now remember what does my girlie's hands look like.... It does sound like a nightmare to switch them out though, I am going to have to have a look when I get home.
I had a bigger AE boy before and I did remember taking his hands out are not the easiest task.

 

OK, I think something is actually wrong with the wrist joints of these hands. I just got a small order of elastic, extra s-hooks, and silicone kips... Anyway, I took a sacrifice hook from the small set and tried adjusting it as much as possible, using a clamp to tighten it up as much as possible while still leaving it usable... It STILL couldn't fit the wrist!

And then I thought, well maybe you're supposed to put the wrist and hand together and just get the s-hook through that way. So I tried, and I'm pretty sure it still can't fit! Neither a normal s-hook nor the super-narrowed one could make it through to the little hook on the hand. The only thing I can think of now is that they need some sort of super-long and narrow s-hook which regular companies don't even sell (I have a doll with those, but I have decided never to change her hands).

I almost want to contact MoC about this! I know it's been something like 2+ years, but I'm pretty miffed that I paid for a set of hands which I can't for the life of me get on my doll ><

Or I'll just stick the hands in the top drawer of my dolly dresser and try to forget I ever saw them xD

 

[MENTION=62245]Karmiya[/MENTION]: Do you think you could take some pictures of the hands? I'm just having a hard time trying to picture what exactly is going wrong. x 3x;

And yeah, Riyo's wig is pretty frizzed up. xD; It usually calms down with some water, but that only works for so long. I'm thinking of getting her another mohair wig, but it's just so hard giving up this color. ; A ;

 

Karmiya: would it help if I took a picture of my Coral's hands? She has the graceful hands, so I can at least take a picture of the hooks she came with and see if it's similar to what you have...?

 

Oh, that would be wonderful, thank you!
[MENTION=36740]Singull[/MENTION]: I could try to do it maybe Saturday (I'm out all day tomorrow) but I'm not quite sure how to capture my problem? A video might work better, I suppose xD Because in theory it should all work, but when I try to get the s-hooks through her wrist joint, it can only go halfway through, like it was sculpted to be too small an opening for a regular s-hook...

Honestly, I think I might need to just put these hands away and forget them... I could probably fuss with them and annoy you guys forever and still never figure it out xD

I've never tried styling a wig with any sort of product, but could that help give it more lasting power than just the water? After all, any hair that's naturally inclined to frizz just seems to view water as a source of brand new frizziness ^^;

 

Ok... i am trying to do this on mobile. Hopefully it works!!

Takara is not sure what I have in store for her....



It is definitely a long, skinny s-hook





it was hard to show since she is also strung really tightly. xD But maybe if you ask MoC, they can send you the right size hooks? You would think they would have some extra ones. I checked my Doll Chateau mini since she has a similar wrist mechanism, and she has long hooks too, but they're larger than the ones my AE girl has. :/

 

[MENTION=62245]Karmiya[/MENTION]: Ahhh, okay, I think I get what you're talking about now. It could be possible that someone didn't properly clear out the are the hook is supposed to go in after it was casted. It probably would be a good idea to put them aside for a little while though, especially if you're getting frustrated with them. They're not going anywhere, you can always mess with the hands at a later time.

Ah, and you know what? I actually have some pomade that I use with my other doll wigs (mainly with my faux fur wigs so they keep their shape after I style them, plus flyaways with the other wigs I have). idk why I never thought to try it out on Riyo's. Not sure how well it'll work, but it's work a try. xD

[MENTION=57781]ChronicallySpaced[/MENTION]: Takara is so cute! :3 Really love her lipstick. U; What sculpt is she?

 

Thank you! She's a Coral

 

Heee! Nice! I had a feeling she was, but sometimes you just can't be sure. I'm always amazed how different one sculpt can look with even just different wigs on.

 

[MENTION=57781]ChronicallySpaced[/MENTION]: Thank you so much! That was really helpful to see, and yes, it looks like they just require a different type of s-hook. Sheesh, they really should send extra parts with s-hooks to match, shouldn't they? Well, I'll contact MoC about that! Thank you again!

Takara's eyeshadow and lipstick are lovely! Did you do her faceup? And her mismatched eyes are great. They sort of blend until you really look at the eyes, and then suddenly they pop. It's very cool ^^
[MENTION=36740]Singull[/MENTION]: Ooh, that sounds good! Will you show us how it goes?

Also, it's funny to hear pomade being mentioned- I normally only think of it in terms of historical fiction where guys slick their hair back xD Is your pomade wax-based? /curious/

 

[MENTION=36740]Singull[/MENTION]: Definitely! I've seen a lot of different-looking Corals, too. It seems like a pretty versatile sculpt.

[MENTION=62245]Karmiya[/MENTION]: I agree with you. If the part isn't standard to that particular body, I don't know why they wouldn't include it with the hands. Especially since you can't get them on without them! Hopefully they'll be cooperative. Sorry you've having such a headache with it!

Thank you. ^^ I did do her face up. She's had quite a few different ones while I've learned what I'm doing and also tried to figure out exactly how I wanted her to look. xD But I'm really happy with this one... so she'll get to be left alone for a while, lol. Though I do need to re-blush her hands.

 

[MENTION=62245]Karmiya[/MENTION]: Will do! And uhh...I don't think it is. It's pomade from the got2b brand. I remember seeing it mentioned on a cosplay site for styling their wigs, so I figured it'd be handy for dolls. It's pretty nice! A little goes a long way, and it doesn't make the hair all hard and gross like I know some hair styling products tend to do.

Baaah, speaking of faceups, I really wanna send Riyo out to get a new one, but...fjdskal sending doll heads out to be painted is such a pain in the butt. x 3x

 

Well, MoC got back to me! They checked their Pear's hands, and found these DollZone s-hooks which seem to be a similar enough size: https://www.mintoncardinc.com/dolls...&name=DZ+S-Hooks+(s-hook-02)&cat=142&DOLL=YES

I went and ordered the last set so I can hopefully get this issue sorted and feel happy painting her nails and stuff. I do wish MoC had a 'so you just want one item in an envelope' shipping, though! It seems it's always $4 no matter how tiny your item :/

Thank you again for your help ^^
[MENTION=57781]ChronicallySpaced[/MENTION]: It's one of those times where you have a really great suggestion for a company, but like they're going to listen to you, right? S-hook sizes vary so much that it just would be a much more practical set-up. Of course, it could be worse- my tiny Only-Doll who's gen1 has s-hooks which are long and totally connected, so I have no idea how I'd get them off without destroying them! Fortunately I've decided never to order their extra hand parts xD

Ooh, I'm impressed! She really looks lovely. And I just checked your DA- I love your most recent photo of her! It shows off her makeup beautifully. It must be good to have her all set like that and be ready to leave her as she is for a while ^^

My poor girls are all currently headless xD But I'm really hoping I can give them faceups I like soon and be set that way so I can focus on some other stuff like clothes...they're also all naked xD But I'm so scared of messing up their faces on the early steps and having to clean and then seal them all over again ^^;

By the way, since you have the new body too, I was wondering how you like it?
[MENTION=36740]Singull[/MENTION]: I'll look forward to seeing how it works out! Ahh. I was wondering, because when I looked it up I saw some are oil/fat-based, which didn't seem right for dolls? I also saw some samples of hairstyles people can create with pomade- it's amazing! (anime characters should definitely endorse it ;p)

Ooh, new faceup! Who will you get her painted by when you do? Sending your heads out must be so scary, I don't know how people do it!

 

[MENTION=62245]Karmiya[/MENTION]: I'm glad they had some. Hopefully they work! It does suck you have to pay so much for shipping on something so small. I'm feeling that so hard right now, though, hahaha. I had to order some marbles for a mod, and the total was like $.60 ... shipping was like $4. xD Uggghhh!!!!

Yeah, it's nice. I'm notorious for redoing my dolls' faces over and over again... my roomie [MENTION=57852]Haiiro[/MENTION] tends to just roll her eyes any time I say I want to redo someone's face. xD So... it's really nice to feel satisfied with how she looks.

Don't be too scared! I gave one of my MSDs a face up, and I was loving how the blushing was going, but then there was an accident with the MSC that completely ruined it. I basically lost 4 hours of work. In the end, though... I liked it even better after I re-did it, and it's still one of my favorite face ups to date. You can do it!

I really like the new AE body. I don't have any experience with the old one to compare, of course, but... it poses really well. I don't ever have to fight with her to get her to hold a pose, especially when she's sueded (but I think most of it needs to be redone at this point). The only issue I have with it is trying to find clothes that fit. The old body is more of a slim mini and the new one definitely is not. xD Her butt is huge. I've had to alter some leggings I got her to make sure they stay up over her caboose.

 

The new hooks finally came, and they work! They're still a bit of a tight fit, so I'll use this clamp tool thingie I have to pinch them in just a tad more. But basically, they work ^^
[MENTION=57781]ChronicallySpaced[/MENTION]: Oh my gosh, yes. My favourite jewellery site has a $5 flat-rate charge for shipping, which is so great if you're ordering a lot of stuff, or just one heavy thing, but awful if you just want one strand of beads or something. Marbles for a mod? What is the mod?

I already have started and had to clean her! Fortunately I just use watercolour and stuff, so I could wash her off easily without worrying about the sealant underneath

Ooh, I'm sorry! I hear about a lot of MSC issues? / never used it /

My only real complaints are that her ankles kind of...creak? Or they don't want to stay in place, but once they do they're okay? I'm thinking of adding some silicone kips to them to see if that helps (I added one to her neck so her s-hook wouldn't scratch her any more, too). And her knees! The thin cover creates a nice curve, but it's so delicate and her stringing is so tight... With most of my dolls I can just let their knees snap back into their normal position, but I always have to take the time to slowly adjust them back so that no harm is done!

But overall I love her. She's just so beautiful- enough so that even if she posed awfully I wouldn't care. But then, I think my dolls could all pose like sacks of potatoes and I'd be happy as long as they have beautiful bodies A bad poser can be fixed- an ugly sculpt is for life!

Aw, but I love her big bum! It's so curvy, and she sits beautifully because of it. I can leave her sitting for ages in some really graceful poses, and so even when I'm not doing anything with her for a while I look over at her and she's all pretty ^^ But of course, since I'm going to sew dresses for her, clothes fitting isn't such an issue ^^;;