Darker Skin Tones?

Have you seen this doll.
http://denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49373&highlight=estella
She is a dyed dollstown Estella. Not only is the "dye job" fantastic, she also has what I think are realistic features for an african american Her owner has done an excellent tutorial on how she did it too. I am considering trying this for the same reasons as you.
Good luck on your search

 

Thank you so much for the link, it did have some good answers for me. But I still don't understand that if some of the wonderful members here can make it happen, and seemingly very easy, why can't they just do it the same way?

I remeber one of the members here had this beautiful modded Hound he was a black elf lord of some kind, and I wanted him but I didn't win the bid, but anyway so may of the cool folks here do it .

I am not one of the cool folks sad but true, I wouldn't know where or how to start, and if I ruined one of my babies, I would just die.

Anyhow, being a woman of color, I thank you all for not taking this the wrong way, and like I said before thank you guys for any and all help

 

I think it is something we'll start to see more of. i think its unfair. The general look of ABJDs is large eyes and smaller noses and lips to make up for it. that's why putting dark skin on a normal doll doesnt give it an african look.
It reminds me of how in the 80s they came out with "black" barbies which had the exact same look, straight hair, the same nose, lips, it just had black hair and brown plastic.

i tried making a black BJD but it didnt turn out good bcause the joints didnt work too well. I was using super sculptey which is a sonuvabitch to work with.

perhaps you should suggest this on Artist's Asian-styled BJD's. Or request pictures.

 

The main problem with just dying a doll is that if you scratch it or remove it's face-up too harshly, or sand it, then the original colour shows through. True, a similar thing happens on Tan dolls, but not nearly to the same degee.

 

The darker dolls are SO much harder to make. They cost more because they waste so many dolls for so few perfect darker dolls. They would lose a lot of money and waste a lot of time if they made dark-skinned dolls standard.

And why would they bother making an entirely new sculpt with new features if they can only make 50 of them? It's just not practical. It makes more sense to just dye a doll yourself or have someone else dye it.

 

you guys have to remember these dolls are orginally made to sell to asians, who find the pale pale look very desireable.
an hey, I go by the policy of "If no one will make it, I might as well make it for myself"

 

I'm sorry to tell you but there is a big asian bias towards darker skin. and if they don't know if there's gonna be a large market for it, they won't make it.

 

I don't follow how that's racist. If they don't want to make dark-skinned dolls, then they don't have to, market or not. If a company makes only boy dolls, just because they want to, does that make them sexist?

Edit: Definitely not trying to start anything here, just friendly discussion ^_^

 

Ow gawd please lets not get to the whole rasicm issue =_=..i mean dark resin is just hard to make and besides that it can't be sanded etc etc..dark resin has just too much issues to keep in mind.
=_= and anyway....í completely understand why normal to white skin is easier to make and sell.

O_O I'm tan too...and I've always wanted a tan Unoa..luckely Araki is busy with his new fashion doll and I hope to get a Choco!

Anyways some1 is selling a tan Lishe on Doa..you can make an offer ^_^..iff you really really want a tan girl..^_^..

 

I'm a "women of color" too and we shouldn't expect asians to make black dolls anytime soon. They where marketed to asian in the first place and when they started selling over seas, they had caucasians in mind *shrug* sad? I know. I'm not saying asians are agressive racists...let's just say...."black" isn't their thing. It's a cultural thing, it goes way back.

There are tanned ( Luts make the darkest, I think)...but that's about it.

Maybe in a couple of year they'll open up to make a wider range of dolls.
Right now, I'm enjoying my "asian" doll.

 

I don't really see the racism, either ^^;;

There's a small demand for dark-skinned dolls, and probably not enough for the market to make expensive molds and produce them, since people have said, it's extremely hard to make them. They'd lose more money than they'd make with these things.

I mean, to make it less controversial, let's take an example with clothing. Yellow clothes are more popular, sell well, and are much easier to make than other colors. Now, a small population want blue clothes, but they are difficult to make, they don't come out well, and are easy to damamge. It costs alot more to make the blue clothes, and while people may buy them, the companies don't know if the entire public will enjoy them, y'know?

Sounds ranty, I'm sorry, but I've seen this come up quite a few times and it always comes to the same conclusion ><

 

If the racist remarks should stop, or this will turn into a wasteland, which I dont want to see because this is an intersting thread.
You have to remember, some companies are not just money hungry, and any company has the right to refuse to make anything, whether theres a market for it or not.
Its known that making a darker skinned doll is harder, more time consuming and a heck of alot more expensive to make for the companies. Thats why most of them havnt made tanned/dark skin dolls yet.
And to answer the question about more african american style doll. Do you see alot of asian styled dolls in america? If you do, they were imported/ sculpted/ made by and asian person. You dont see alot of asian dolls in american doll artists collections, and heck, Barbie only has like one asian friend! LOL. So, its just the same. Everyones eyes see things differently, and where you reside has alot to do with it.
*jen

 

You coudl look at this as an opertunity to learn to customize~ If there's a big market you cna tan other peopel's dolleis forthem and spread the coloured love Soem dolleis do have the features that look more african (I thik CP Soony would look REALLY nice with chocolatey skin :3 Same with Souldoll's synder and sweeny~ :3)

 

Being a person of color, I am pretty upset with the lack of tan colored dolls as well. Also that I have to pay so much extra money for them. However, I think now that the asian companies are seeing how popular tanned dolls are and our wants for them, I can see more produced in the future.

Angelregion offers an Only For You system that allows you to order a tan doll for $498, that's a bit cheaper than getting sunlight doll from Tenshi no Sato (but ofy only does 43cm dolls right now).

When I first became interested in BJDS I didn't think there was a chance for me to get a tan doll at all and now more and more are popping up. I wouldn't despair ^.^.

Edit: Guys I think sweetest185 started this thread asking for an alternative rather than to start a racial argument.

 

Welcome to the board, and I hope that you will find the perfect doll for you. Tanned dolls are expensive because they're harder to make.

As for the reason behind few tanned dolls, GG. This topic has been beaten to death. x___x