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Darker Skin Tones?

Nov 29, 2005

    1. Well, I for one am happy to have diversity among collectors and this forum. If I do something offensive, I hope someone tells me because usually I don't mean to offend. :sweat
      There's also an age consideration, I think. As I was growing up in the South Afro-American was a term of respect (although it did change to African American at some point). Personally, I shudder at the "n" word, even used in jest among friends about one's self and one's people. People tell me I should lighten up and let people call themselves and each other whatever they like. I just can't get past that word, though. ;_; I'm old enough to have heard it in the original context (which isn't as old as you might think) and it really makes my flesh crawl.

      I think everyone should be free to state what is offensive to them and it shouldn't be considered a slight (I don't think it's meant as such) to the person causing the offense (who likely did so without intention).

      Now, back to the dolls!!! I adore Cocori and Aaron is amazing! I'm just a little leery of the darker resin because of the sunlight issue and not being able to sand/etc... I fully intend to get one of the darker dolls after they've been around a while and we can see how they age. Plus... I really prefer the smaller dolls. I wish they'd do a version of the more African-featured dolls in MSD size. More... I wish they'd come up with a good way of coloring resin so you could take a sculpt you like (like my poor dear pasty-faced Choyangbi) and make it a nice brownskinned doll instead. I think Choyangbi especially would make a wonderful dark-skinned doll (he's got the most adorable nose... not at all one of the pointy anime-noses which are so popular among SDs).

      H
       
    2. Afro-caribbean is a valid term. It's not used as an insult. o_O

      Okay, then I find pasty-faced offensive. I'm very pale and I resent my skintone being compared to a glue used in elementary schools.

      Oversensitive, no? ^_^;

      And CHISA.TO, I apologize for the eyerolling. It was insensitive of me to belittle your offended-ness.
       
    3. This interested me because a good friend of my family is Brazilian and black. He gets mightily offended when someone refers to him as "African American." He's not African, nor is he American. He identifies very strongly as Brazilian, and prefers to just be called black, if his race must be referred to at all. I guess it just depends on the person. *sigh* It is really hard to be PC these days.

      Back on topic: One of the things I love about BJDs is the variety. Tanned dolls are rad, and when Cocori was released, I was very excited that there was finally a black BJD. I tend, however, to prefer boys to girls, so Aaron is the thrill of a lifetime! I can't wait for them to post more pictures!!!
      He's amazingly hot. :aheartbea
       
    4. I deeply apologize to the melanin impoverished everywhere.:sweat
       
    5. Just to warn you guys... if you don't watch how OT this gets, the mods are going to complain some.
       
    6. Hm, that's not what I was told by the people at Dream of Doll when I inquired about them making a White DoT option body...Why do new companies say that white resin is more difficult to make than normal when they first start producing dolls, I wonder?

      Either way, the point is indeed that adding pigments to resin is not easy. For that reason, any dolls with significant color are probably going to remain limited releases until somebody finds a way to perfect the process.

      It really makes it hard to plan for when companies are always surprising you with limiteds you weren't expecting. You don't even have a chance to think about it before you have to have the money ready. *sigh*
       
    7. The different companies are starting to use different resins. The darker colored resins are more difficult to produce as people have said. I love that there is more of a variety now.

      And, let's please respect each other. Language is alive and dictionaries are always behind what is culturally acceptable. Please be sensitive to other's requests and feelings.
       
    8. I want Aaron soooooo freaking bad. Cocori, who is not ment to be strictly black since she has blue eyes and some french in her (I think) didn't really flout my boat. But Aaron :drool I almost fell over looking as this hot self. Also, I think once all the companies firgure out how to get a darker resin without all the errors they are gonna start poping em out like clock work!

      P.S:They are just words...it's like Madea says "It's not what people call you but what you answer to." ;)
       
    9. Well, it's not like your Cocori has to be at all French just because they made up that story. My Tony sure isn't a Swiss boy living in Harajuku! ;) I like to hear the stories that BJD companies come up with, but I completely discard them from my dolls.

      There's this picture I have from an old magazine of this beautiful girl wading in the water in Bali, who knows where she's from, but I made up this great story about her... Unfortunately that character (Eva) is several generations back in my story-line so I don't need to give her a doll form.:( Cocori would have been perfect for her.:(

      I can't wait to see what people do with Aaron!
       
    10. I wanted to add one more: CP/Luts. Their tan dolls get quite a bit darker than they look in their display pics on the website. I saw a tan Lishe in the resin at the last BJD meeting I went to, and I was surprised by how dark she actually was. Of course, their faces can't exactly be called African, but they could certainly pass for people from a very hot & sunny country. ^^
       
    11. Setsuna -- the "default" colored Smooth-On resin that Caitlin and I bought was a light beige . . . whereas the white resin was quite a bit more expensive and evidently had a slightly different chemical composition/setting rate, since it had a much higher rate of air-bubbles than the "default" resin (to which we added pigment to get a "normalskin" tone to match CP resin) . . . so it's possible that white really *is* harder to work with.

      Not sure what brand they're using, of course, and I'm sure that they all have their own proprietary mixes, but I will say from my (limited) experience that white resin and "regular" resin weren't the same.

      To get back on-topic . . . I can't wait to see more of Aaron, he looks *gorgeous*!!

      -- A :>
       
    12. Does anyone know of any companies that produce African-American BJDs? The only black skintone dolls I have seen have cat heads.
       
    13. Iplehouse have two "African-American"-ish dolls, Cocori(woman) and Aaron(man) though I believe they are limited?

      otherwise just dark skinned dolls you can look at luts(they have tanning versions of a lot of their delfs) most company's have tanned skin for limiteds only
       
    14. Hmm, I know Iplehouse does. :) I'm not sure about any other company's though.
       
    15. Iplehosue has two. Aaron will be re-released at the end of this month.

      There's a dark skined version and a light skinned version!
      They are really nice. You should search Cocori and Aaron to see user pictures of them

      Also, i forgot where Mellow Coe is but she is a black doll. (she is from DollMore)
       
    16. Yes, the iplehouse dolls are limited, but the Cocori is still for sale. And dollmore has a black girl-doll.
       
    17. there are some african dolls from dollmore

      one looks creepishly like tyra banks X3
       
    18. SD16 Ruby by Volks is amazing!
       
    19. Hello.

      I've recently found that i'm in the Market for a doll that is African American. I'm leaning towards a Dollstown Estella boy. But i'm curious if there are companies that make African American dolls, that are well done. So far, i know of the following:

      Iplehouse: Cocori, Aaron, and Kamau.
      Bobobie: Cookie and Chocolate
      Dollmore: Mello Cole
      Dollstown: Most of their Dolls
      Dollshe: Most of their dolls
      can anyone think of any others?

      I'm more looking for companies that add that dark chocolate tan as a feature you can pay for, and i'm looking for SD sized boys. (or a bit larger)