Do you believe that some owners mistreat their dolls?

Agreed, animals are completely different then to a doll, even if dolls are expensive, but so are animals, depending on if you're buying a dog from a breeder and what lines you're getting. With that said, I don't know how anyone can compare an animal to a toy.


I've seen people who treat there dolls horribly and it makes me shiver to think they would want to treat there own doll like that. Only one person has treated my doll like they do their own and it has cost Aki's faceup to be ruined. So I'm much more cutious about letting other people handle my dolls.

 

Unless you got the doll as a gift, then I can't see someone mistreating them too terribly. D:
I mean, Some people who like to keep them away from the world, honestly, have probably worked insanely hard to come up with their $600+ to buy them.
And others, who are just, generally careless or clumsy people personality wise, it's not really all that much of their fault right?
I think this is just me being a bit thoughtless, but people who mistreat their dolls on purpose, per say, wacking them together, no, shouldn't deserve a doll in my opinion, because there are other people out there that would work really hard for just half the doll you're mistreating. But a person that sets them on a desk, purposely, but it falls by accident, it was just a simple mistake, ya know?

 

In the end, it's THEIR money. I don't think it's my place, or anyone's, to be telling others what they can and can't do with their possessions. I think the fact that THEY were the ones to push the "Pay" button on PayPal or whatever entitles them to enjoying the dolls as their wish -- even if their wish is to carry them around everywhere and being a bit careless. And, even if they smashed them up to pieces with a hammer, it's still their doll. As sad as I might be to see such a beautiful thing destroyed, it's still theirs.

Now, to the point -- I do agree that some owners can go into downright "abuse" with how careless they are, leaving the dolls in extremely dangerous places and stuff. But, you know, they aren't children or pets. In that case, I'd have a reason to call the police and have the puppy or little girl taken away from them. But these are dolls, and it's not exactly/legally a "crime" to destroy them...

 

The way I see it there are lots and lots of people mistreating their dolls.

 

The only thing that bothers me is people that leave their dolls in sunlight, let the dolls fall on the ground and get dirty and then turn around and sell them claiming good condition or has no yellowing.

That really bugs me how people never fess up about rough play when they go to sell a doll, but now I'm starting to pay close attention to stories people tell on the forum, the only thing you can do is make a mental note not to buy from them in the future if you are really bothered with how they handle their possessions.

extra: I couldn't help but laugh to myself thinking of imaginary
"dolly protective serivices" bursting through doors taking people's dolls from them.

 

On the subject of letting children play with dolls I don't think that's something I'm going to do with the majority of children, honestly looking at or maybe touching the doll then okay but there is no way they are dragging it through the mud. Not after the amount I sacrificed in order to get him.

That said there are certain children I would let hold him because I know they would be careful but there are others who'd rag him about like a 99p Store baby doll. Okay sure it might make them happy but I'm not paying up that much money to make them happy, I'm paying it to make me happy and that may make me selfish but why hand over something that they could easily break when they'd be just as happy with any one of my custom barbies?

I will let a few of the kids my mum looks after hold him because I know they won't mess about with him and they would never damage my things, I will let my four-year old cousin hold him because he knows to listen to me and that some things are not for yanking about willy nilly, however my giddy nephew? No, he'd break it, I adore him but he'd be just as happy if I put the doll away and play lego with him instead.
Same goes for my step-sisters kids. They had a snatching fight over my pet rat. I'm not letting them hold my little baby ever again because they hurt her, nor will they be holding my doll. They don't deserve to if they can't even treat a living animal correctly.

In the end though it's thier doll and they can do what they want to thier dolls and if they want they can say I'm selfish because I won't let kids have mine but you know what thier circumstances are probably very different than mine because he's probably going to be my only doll for the next few years and I probably won't have the money to replace him, five minutes of a rough childs happiness until they break his nose and I'm miserable for however long it takes for me to save again, for Migi to sell him again, for someone to do his face-up again? No sorry, I couldn't do it.


Anyway what I really wanted to say was that honestly I can see both sides, I cringe seeing people mess up something so expensive because it's taking me so long to get my first together and when they have like six and they're chucking them about and you can just tell it's going to get trashed and thrown out with the garbage but I don't think that gives me the right to have a go at them because in the end it's thier money.

 

the_unaccepted1, I totally understand what you mean. I once bought a doll that was ^claimed to be wonderful great condition and turns out the body was all dirty in all of the joints and the joints were all squeaking and it was just a mess. Not only that they even sold me the wrong head claiming it was this other doll. It was hard to tell with the makeup on. Im alot more careful now and always compare alot of photos b4 i buy something. I ended up selling the doll and i think it made me appreciate my dolls even more so.

 

I get really testy when I hear someone say "mistreat" or take care of, like these are children, pets.. or even your car or house. It isn't just that they are inanimate, it's that they are luxury *dolls.* Each owner has their definition of what it takes to be a mindful owner of these toys, and each one thinks somethings are more appropriate than another. And not everyone will agree with another person's standards.

 

My dolls, though loved very much - get very little play time. They sit in my closet, rarely ever catching the light of day. I take them out for pictures every now and again, or when I go to a meetup or visit a doll friend. Mostly, they just greet me in the mornings and evenings when I'm picking out my attire, or putting away my belongings. Sometimes, when I'm feeling especially loving I clean the dust off of them, brush their hair, and I reposition them. I am not the kind of person who drags their doll everywhere or moves them around the house just to have them with me. Do I think that's perfectly ok for others to do? Of course it is. It just isn't in my personality to be that way and I have a right to it. Some people would consider it disregard, but I just don't play hard.

That being said... Just because someone chooses the Adventurer path for their dolls, doesn't make them abusive. I have friends who's dolls go with them everywhere, have become more yellow over time due to sun exposure and have had pieces of their faceups chip off because of heavy handling (the best example I can find is blushing). I personally don't consider it misuse if she has absolutely no plans to sell her doll, ever. A doll can be thoroughly cleaned, a faceup can be redone, you can bleach mild yellowing from resin. It's just well worn attachment.

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BUT any blatant disregard for abused personal property [that someone later chooses to sell after damaging beyond repair] is just depressing. I don't like it, but then again I don't have to. They aren't mine to gripe about. Especially if I'm not purchasing their dolls when they're done with their destruction of them.

 

I don't think a doll "deserves" anything... THAT BEING SAID... I think it's really stupid to get into a hobby, spend that kind of money, and break, damage, or not take care of the object.

Should you play with your doll? If it makes you happy... Should you never touch it, keep it locked up and out of the light? If it makes you happy...

Do I think it's stupid to mistreat something so expensive? Yeah, I do. Does that make me right? No. It's my personal oppinion, how I treat my possessions is my business and same goes for anyone else....

If you want to throw money away... that's your deal... but I'll take it is you don't want it ^_- (<-- intended to be completely snarky)

 

I once encountered an owner with a VERY expensive doll, that was actually a limited sculpt. He had an absolutely WICKED face-up, but it was a custom one that she and a friend of hers had done. when I asked her what she used for the faceup, she quickly told me that she used some chalk crayons from an artist set that she`d bought at hobby lobby, and she had actually used the word cheap to describe them...!! I mean, she probably knew what she was doing, but I can`t help to think, what if there was some kind of pigment enhancing agent in the chalk that EATS resin?! I couldn't imagine having the gall to use something cheap to do a face up on a precious doll that you had spent so much money on...or maybe that's just me. I don't mean cheap, like acrylic paint, but as in low quality.

 

I'm reminded of that old kid's show "Arthur" where his dumb sister DW sees her grandma's porecelein doll and begs to borrow her for a week.

During the week, the doll gets seriously dirty from having food spilt on it, being thrown down a slide, left in the dirt and then when it's dropped onto the ground from DW jumping on the bed and having it's face broken. When Arthur sees the broken doll, he askes her wtf she was doing with it and DW just carelessly shrugs it off.

Then comes the story about how their grandmother got the doll. Since she was the only girl in her family and they lived in a really poor era, all her hand me downs were crappy boy's toys she tried to prettify. Even her brother tried giving her a potato on a stick, suggesting it could be a fairy godmother.

So DW's grandma saves and scrimps and scronges for enough for that one doll and takes very good care of, making sure whomever touches it must have clean hands, the doll had it's own cushion and generally it was taken care of.

And after hearing this, DW feels ultra guilty for smashing a giantic hole in the doll's face and freaks out about destroying it.

Luckily Arthur's teacher was a puppeteer and fixed up the doll. DW confesses to practically destroying the doll and her grandma says it was okay, because DW did get the doll fixed and she did feel concerned about the state of it, and actually loved the doll... So the poor doll still was allowed to be in the clutches of DW...


tl;dr: If you actually care about the doll and don't neglect the doll to the point of damage to it, then you're not mistreating your doll

 

I definitely think some people mistreat their dolls, and completely take the fact that they can afford to spend hundreds of dollars on something, simply for enjoyment's sake, for granted.

I think those who do abuse their dolls are the people who don't understand the worth of them, they don't think about the effort put into them, and they don't think about the work that went into earning the money to buy them. Basically they I think they come off as ungrateful and, in some cases, even spoiled. Sorry if I offend anyone, (im not trying to) but it just seems illogical and silly to spend so much money on something just to ruin it in the end.

 

Sure, people will mistreat their dolls, but it's theirs to use how they wish. It's ludicrous to spend so much money on something only to throw it around and break it. It's your choice, but it's a stupid choice. Why get into an expensive hobby and then mess up your doll by being careless? That's stupid--it's a waste of money.

However, dolls *are* just inanimate objects. They're not like people or children, so it's a bit silly to say your doll is being literally abused or neglected. If you treat your doll with care, then you're not mistreating it.

 

i don't think its a case of its more likely if its a gift, but that some who are given them as gifts maybe didn't want them that much in the first place/don't mean that much to them. they are just generally unappreciative people

2 of my dolls were gifts and 2 were bought by me, but i treat them all the same...if not the gift ones better, because they were just that, a gift ^^

 

Anything can be treated good or bad - since everything here are made out of the very same kind of materia. Thus, it doesn't matter if it's a grain of sand, a doll, a human being or an elephant.

 

I would never call it abuse or disrespect or...

How can I put it...

I respect you guys opinions but generally, I tend to consider dolls objects. So I mean.. my money = I do what I want with it.

To me they are just dolls..

beautiful, sure, and I absolutely like them, but I don't.. I probably don't cherish them as much as most people here. Not that I wouldn't take care of them but I can't blame people who do what they want with them

 

I have to say, that I could only call something 'abuse' with a bjd if the owner was unhappy with the result and mistreated the doll because of it- like a faceup gone wrong, that results in the owner taking the head off the doll and throwing it across the room for instance. Otherwise, if you wanna throw the darn thing and it makes you happy then go ahead- just don't do it in front of me because I might cry. I wouldn't treat my dolls like they were made of glass, but I certaintly would be picky about how they are handled, and by whom, and where etc. For me personally, I want to be able to take my boys out for photoshoots, showing off and more, and handle them everyday. I just respect what others want to do with their possetions so long as they are happy. If they aren't then yes, I'd have to agree that say- dragging a doll across the floor by the arm is a stupid idea. But if they're not, then whatever, I wouldn't do it to mine (and no one else had better either or death will follow and it will be slow and painful). I know that was totally confusing, but my point is, whatever makes people happy- so long as I'm allowed to do what makes me happy.

 

according to wad i know is tt, most bjd owners treat their dollfies as treasure , and take good care of them. i wouldn't abuse my dolls. at the most, i put them one side for few weeks without playing with them.
there maybe rare cases where some owners let other ppl play with their dollfies esp ppl who do not know how to handle with bjds. so far, i have not heard or come across such cases yet.

 

Ive seen some dolly owners who are more.. ah i want to say "laid back" about the care of their dollys.
They've done/do things that i think very cautious or new people wouldnt dream of doing.
But i dont see that as a case of "mistreating"
i just think that those owners understand what their dolly can take.
and their confident in their ability to handle them.
They know when to stop throwing them up in the air so to speak xD.
I think the lil resins are tougher than alot of people give them credit for xD.
Kids get hurt all the time, scratches, cuts, bruises...
The only difference is that on real people those things heal xD aha.
Well i guess resin can heal with epoxy and blushing xD.

thats what i think anyways xD.