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Do you believe that some owners mistreat their dolls?

Jun 9, 2008

    1. Is it a shame and a waste of money to not care for items that cost so much? Absolutely. Abuse seems like an exaggerated term in most careless cases. People can do whatever they want with their possessions.
       
    2. I agree with tereya chan. Some people have no respect for their own things or others. It's their doll and their $ & their choice. The only time it would concern me is if I adopted one of their dolls.
       
    3. Oh heck yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all if I heard a report of a owner mistreating their dolls. I think you'd have to think though if its really mistreating them or not, some people would consider gore faceups "abuse" when I find them fasinating and think its one of the hardest design elements a person could do to their doll. Though, I wouldn't let my children play with my dolls to their old enough, with that I'd just store them in a safe place unless my children got them out, but hey their kids and once they learn that they shouldn't be playing with the dolls, they'll stop ( hopefully.) But that would be more of the parents fault but needless to say.

      I think it would be abuse if a person would, leave their doll outside if it was raining or just forgetting about their doll completely and leave them in the dark. If a person maybe just didn't have any respect and didn't clean the doll, didn't care for it and just leave it by itself with no love... thats what I would consider abuse.
       
    4. Being inanimate objects, they may be treated like any other doll or toy depending on the views of the owner.

      I myself have a level of respect for them and treat them well. I do this with living stuff too.
      however, I do have an 'abuse' doll whom I carry around, flaunt with in the sun, paint and re-paint,
      and she has waterproof stringing so I can even swim with her if I want to, or take her out in the rain without fear.
      I will never sell or replace her, since by taking her out and allowing her to be damaged by the sun and elements
      (she sports muddy feet at the moment) she is dearer to my heart.

      oh, a little edit-- I do clean her up and always have her tidy by the time I put her to bed.
       
    5. that doesn't sound like abuse, sounds like enjoyment in your own way
       
    6. I personally think it's unwise to treat something so expensive with little care. I don't see dolls as "alive", though I do respect them. However, I know that many BJD artists see the dolls as more than inanimate objects. I'm sure there are some artists (esp. small companies) that would not sell a BJD if they knew it was not going to be taken care of at all.

      I would personally feel bad for disrespecting their wishes, but that also depends on the point of view of the owner.
       
    7. No.Why should people mistreat their own dolls after all the sacrifices that they made to buy their dolls?:|But,if it's a case of carelessness,then it's not entirely the owner's fault,right?
       
    8. Since I am very new to the bjd world I hope I dont mistreat my dolls. Maybe to very protective doll parents I may seem abusive. But it not like I throw them around but sometimes when I transport them I just wrap them in clothes and throw them in my luggage. I need a case or something. :O
       
    9. As it has been said before, I believe that people are free to treat their possessions as they'd like. I mean, if someone were to throw a Soom MD across the room, I might cry for it, but whatever floats the owner's boat, I guess...?

      Personally, I play with my dolls, and I don't wear cotton gloves whilst doing so. They get dirty, bows from shoes go missing, and occasionally a boob or two will fall out (true story). At the end of the day, I still care for my hunks of resin very much, and whatever happens to them is not the result of any kind of malice.

      In summation, my girls aren't anywhere near as sparkly as they were when I first opened their boxes, but heck, that's what Mr. Clean Magic Eraser is for! :sweat
       
    10. Abuse is such a harsh word... Here I think the correct term is MISTREAT. There’s a fine line between being overly obsessive and taking the protection route and man handling your doll. Personally I think keeping the doll constantly in storage and only taking it out on special occasions is mistreatment, but on the same note, someone who treats it with little or no regard is guilty of the same crime.
      How should I put this... If you bought an 18th century china plate would you let the dog drink out of it? It’s the same with a doll, like with the china plate you display it and admire it, but at the same time you keep it safe and guarded. I think the trick is to find the balance between being overly cautious and "playing" with your doll.
       
    11. And "playing" roughly...=X
       
    12. same here. :)
       
    13. I make zero moneys. I spend it all on my dolls. I make my friends mad and I don't do fun things so I can buy my dolls. They matter more than any other inanimate objects to me, and they make be broke. So naturally, I am paranoid about everything. I hide them under a silk shawl during the day if no one's coming over so they won't yellow. I don't even know if it helps, but I'm less worried.

      I think it's be pretty hard to mistreat a doll, but if you did, it would mean you obviously didn't care about it, and therefore shouldn't have it. Other people will treat it better.
       
    14. "Abuse" is definitely not the most accurate word for your question, but I understand what you're asking. And I do think it's wrong in general, simply because 1.) I do believe some spirit or other resides in everything animate or inanimate, and 2.) they are very expensive pieces of art. Treat everything and respect, and respect will be given to you too.

      But even the thought of 'abusing' a doll the way you would to any other living thing is just as disturbing. It would be a sign that that person needs help. The need to torture or abuse, even if it is to an inanimate object, could easily escalate to abusing another living being.
       
    15. I used to look some dolls on the internet and tought -poor doll!!! look how they treat you but now I have my dolls I think that every people treat them in different ways depending the relation they set up whith their dolls, maybe some people show them respect, others show them friendship, others mother feeling, so depending on this they treat and saw they´re dolls, anyway, this dolls are expensive so I think everybody is free to do them what they want cause there´s an implicit feeling of property.
       
    16. If someone neglects to take care of a doll, the doll will lose its value over time. =.=

      I take great care of my dolls, even though I play with them a lot and take them everywhere I go.
      Some of them I do love to bits and pieces, but that's not the only reason I care.
      If I don't care about them, and something bad happens to them, I won't be able to re-sell them
      in the future if I need the money or if I decide to leave the hobby. >.< These are expensive things!
      It's like throwing money into the sink if you just neglect your doll~!
       
    17. I take good care of my dolls.. I'm hardly obessive, and I'm nto even the most careful person I know with dolls...
      but I care, and I put the effort into them.. <3

      That being said, peoepl do waht they want with their own property... and I'd never judge someone baised on the condition their dolls are in....
       
    18. if its your object, and its not alive, like a doll, there is no limit to something uu can do to it, it will never be abuse. the thing is plastic. its not a living being. this thread is funny though!
       
    19. I'd have to say that some do. When you just leave it there and not look at it, I think that that isn't truly abuse. I mean, since I'm freaky and believe that every object (especially these beautiful dolls that the owner breathes life into) have some sort of soul. If you leave it there, rather than abusing it, it makes it feel abandoned, so it's more of mistreating it. Abusing would be giving it to a child and let them take the precious doll apart that costs a fortune to buy. That is abuse. In my opinion, we should leave the dolls around everywhere 1. It may get damaged if someone sits on it and you didn't notice and 2. It hurts the dolls feelings (god I feel like a freak.) Everything, especially these dolls, deserve love and care. If someone were to lose interest in these dolls, I think they should sell it and give it a better home.
       
    20. well, i really think that you should treat your doll with respect but every one can do whatever they want as long as it ther own doll. still i feel sad for mistreated dolls....