Dollshe Discussion - Part Seventeen

The gall of the man is breathtaking in the worst way possible.

 

I wonder if Dollstown is even aware that Mr. D is using their Paypal? Is it possible that he somehow has access to that account (without their knowledge) because of his past business relationship with them (ie as a casting service)? And if so, will they end up taking "the fall" when Mr. D inevitably does a disappearing act with the funds and no dolls are forthcoming to customers?

If Dollstown has actually given permission to Dollshe to use their account for his payments, they're certainly living dangerously.

As for wire transfers, I shudder at the thought. There's no recourse should things go south (which they undoubtably will).

For that matter, is Dollshe selling dolls from orders that folks have paid for (many years ago), and are still waiting for? Or do these so-called "in stock" sale dolls even exist? And even if they do - they fall under the new ban (which I'm very glad to see. Thank you, Mods!).

I just hope that everyone finally stops doing business with Dollshe.

 

I very seriously doubt that Dollshe has access to Dollstown's Paypal account. They are completely separate businesses. I think they truly have maintained a good relationship, and from Dollstown's perspective they have no reason to distrust Dollshe and are just doing him a favor. I don't think anyone will cast blame on Dollstown either, should their Dollshe orders go wrong. What could happen, though, are a lot of Paypal claims and chargebacks when the Dollshe orders have problems, which would jeopardize Dollstown's Paypal account.

Without knowing exactly where the two companies are located, I kind of wonder if Dollstown is helping Dollshe in other ways. Offering to accept payments on their behalf is a really huge favor! Maybe they're aware of Dollshe's severe problems and are attempting to help him get back on track behind the scenes. Who knows.

 

wow. Maybe Dollstown customers should let them know the risk they are taking by doing that.

Because if I saw another company that I have bought resins from doing business with Dollshe like that, I would sure send them a PM warning them. At least they would be aware.

Because when this goes down badly, which it most probably will, Dollstown will be left with the mess and Dollshe laughing himself to the bank for fooling people once again.

I hope people do not fall for this. Seriously. Don't give him a penny. Cut your losses.

 

It's not like it's a secret about the trouble/issues Dollshe has had for years now. Dollstown has to have heard about at least some of the things plaguing Dollshe (of his own making I might add). A simple google search of "problems with Dollshe" pops up several Reddit pages as well as multiple threads here as the first 2 results. They can't not know.

Even if their dealings with Dollshe have been/are still good, as a business I'd be extremely wary of linking something as important as my payment service (PP) to a company (Dollshe) that has had that same service freeze/close/whatever their accounts because of problems/complaints/refunds in such a large scale. If things were to go south (and I think we all believe it will), it's Dollstown that would suffer as the refunds would go through their account (and good luck to them on getting the money out of Dollshe), PP would flag that and possibly suspend their account. They might even be violating PP's ToS by accepting payments for Dollshe (I don't about that and may be talking out of my hat on the issue).

TL;DR I wouldn't do this "favour" for Dollshe if I was Dollstown despite still having a good relationship with him. There's too much risk involved and no reward.

 

Dollstown and Dollshe have had a long relationship, since at least 2008, when Dollstown started selling their renewed sculpts that year. Dollshe had announced the discontinuation of his old sculpts in January 2008, because he was going to design a new line-up. Meantime, he did casting for Dollstown, and when he started taking orders a year or so later for his new sculpts, the Dollstown site was where you placed Dollshe orders for a few years. Turnaround time for Dollstown then and for several years following was pretty good; a month to two months at most, and speedier when Dollstown stopped doing face-ups and sanding in early 2011. I don't know how much the pandemic and post-pandemic can be blamed for current Dollstown delivery slow-downs, and how much can be blamed on Dollshe; all I know is my November 2021 order took 7 months (Elf body and two heads). I wasn't really surprised, but it certainly was a change from the late 2000s/20-teens.

Long story short, I hope Dollstown doesn't get burned by continuing to do any business with Dollshe.

 

I saw something in the last day or two about there being a pre-order for Venitu and... Goowha? heads by the original artist and they made it extremely clear that Dollshe would have absolutely nothing to do with the production (I believe the original sculptor retained the rights to their work?) and were going to be using a different caster with a very good reputation.

 

It is interesting how Dollstown is willing to risk their business reputation with PayPal by accepting payment on behalf of Dollshe Craft. To most of us it seems like such a risky move with no benefits. Even if the public doesn't blame Dollstown, for this going bad, PayPal will still hold them liable if excessive charge backs start coming in.

 

Out of curiosity, did anyone get a doll cast by Dollshe that had a very strong smell to it? I got a Honey Skin Goowha in one of the deeper tones that had/ has a very strong smell. I boxed him up and put him away as I worried that the smell might not be something good to be around.

I do have other Honey Skin dolls that have no smell at all.

 

I've only the one doll bought direct from Dollshe but didn't notice any smell. However, that was several years ago (2017?). Unrelated to Dollshe, the DV 3-arm body I bought still has the new resin smell lingering and I bought that in 2019. However, all my dolls live in their boxes so that could be why there is still a scent when I open his box (i.e. it's trapped in the box until I open said box).

 

I purchased a honey skin Venitu directly from Dollshe many years ago. It initially had a very strong smell, but it went away eventually after taking it out of the box. But I don't think it was any stronger than the smell from new dolls of other makers.

 

I did check the page out of curiosity (not because I wanted to buy anything obviously) and nearly everything is crossed?! I hope this doesn't mean he really sold all of this

 

My Goowha was bought directly from Dollshe and he was made back when Venitu was still selling dolls. Maybe I do need to set him outside for a while and see how it goes. Nothing like a stinky doll......

I never has a doll that smelled before that one and I've not had issues since. Thank you for your answers.

 

Hi Dolls!

Did anyone take a screenshot of the in stock dolls crossed out? Just a heads up, the Classic and Fashion lines were removed from the list. Humm, I wonder why?

It appears that Mr. Dollshe is mad for being banned by DoA. In his post made on November 11th, 2023, which was supposed to be about the BubblePet he goes on a tirade that he was in business way before DoA and other BJD companies.

Yes, he is one of the firsts in the modern BJDs, but it does not excuse him or give him the right to not suffer the consequences of his poor business decisions. Instead of celebrating Dollshe Craft's 20th anniversary, he is making worse for his business.

Also, Mr. Dollshe says he never reads or signed up on DoA, but this artisan profile on DoA that links to his website is most likely him, you can see it by clicking here.

For your perusal, you can read his histrionic meltown here or by going to the link here.

Quote:
"I majored in startup design.
This is BubblePet BI designed by me.
I don’t know if they will continue to make cute animal BJDs.
If the animals BJD come together, I plan to launch BubblePet as a separate brand.

First of all, we will solve the problem of late delivery and PayPal withdrawal restrictions.
And I will definitely restore my honor.

We will correct the rumors about Mori 9 and BJDivas.
The delivery delay is entirely my fault but there is so much false information out there.
I saw an article on Den of Angels saying that the BJD that DollShe Craft and I had outsourced would be expelled from the community.
Has the Den of Angels manager ever emailed me to confirm the facts?
I have never signed up for Den of Angels and have never gone in to see it.
I just saw a related post on Instagram.

I created BJD before the Den of Angel community and are the third in the world to make BJD.

DollShe Craft has been manufacturing the first 70cm BJD and double jointed BJD since 2003.
I know how to do everything from handmade to 3D modeling.
We helped several brands by providing them with the know-how to make BJDs.

The first company is Volks
The second is Luts
The third is DollShe Craft

Other than the two companies above, there is no other brand that made dolls before me.

We have been aware of all issues in the BJD world since 2002.

Brands that lie.
Those who illegally distribute the BJD I made.
Those who stole my prototype.
People who steal other people’s ideas.
People who get help and make sarcastic remarks about how good it looks.
I’m not making a BJD for you guys.
I will soon announce my official position on the website.

I sold DollShe Craft and used the proceeds from the sale to complete backlogged deliveries and issue refunds to customers who were unable to receive refunds due to PayPal restrictions.
And I tried to leave the BJD world completely.
The dolls made so far may be given to loyal employees.
I will not sell DollShe Craft to another company.

I don’t know how long I will make BJDs.
I think I will probably stop making BJDs once I become a big company.
I will stop all social media activities and enjoy complete freedom.

I am preparing funding for various businesses, including sports brand We will build a company.

Some of these businesses will grow into trillion-dollar companies within a few years.
Even if there is only a 1% chance, I will not give up, I will not be discouraged, and I will move forward steadily in order to create a company worth 1 trillion won.
My target profit for next year is 20 billion won, and I truly believe that I will definitely achieve my dream.
The world is a huge simulation and I believe that anyone can achieve their dreams if they believe and take action.

In the spring of 2024, we are making money through various businesses to completely solve the problem of delivery delays and PayPal refunds.

Delivery delays have become serious due to a lack of liquid funds due to PayPal withdrawal restrictions.
I’m so sorry to the customers who ordered.

The day will come when we repay the customers who have loved DollShe Craft BJD and waited silently for many years.

I’ve been through a painful time over the past six months.
Meanwhile, I worked on numerous projects.
I became stronger.
And I am getting closer to my dream.
We will definitely solve all your problems.
Please trust and wait.

Sincerely yours,
DollShe Craft CEO/Sculptor DK(Dragon KIM, DollShe Kim)"

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Uh huh.

 

Well that sounds all sorts of unhinged. Or maybe that's just me. Still not taking responsibility for his utterly trash business sense and seems to be treating the unfulfilled orders like it's something that just started happening in the last 6 months (and of course, is someone else's fault). No, sir, you've left orders languishing for 5 years doing gods only knows what with the money you received for said orders (it certainly wasn't making the dolls ordered).

I'd say he's proper mad that the consequences of his actions have bit him good and hard on the butt.

 

Wow, he sounds insane. Also, I'm pretty sure DoA existed as a Volks BJD Yahoo group before Dollshecraft.

 

At today's rate, 1 trillion won= $766,571,400.00US Yeah, I can see that happening. Sure. Delusion much?