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Dollshe Discussion - Part Seventeen

Jan 26, 2022

    1. That entire rant is so delusional... he must be so upset that he's no longer welcome on DoA. It was a long time coming, tbh.
       
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    2. I think he's upset that we, the doll community, are now very vocally warning people, especially those new to the hobby, against purchasing anything from him because of the atrocious way he treats his customers and runs his business.
       
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    3. To think the mods' announcement would be the thing that threw him off his rocker!! :XD:

      I hope Dollstown makes it out of this alive. I'm not sure why they trust in this man. They can't possibly not know the situation he's created for himself, right?
       
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    4. Totally spit-balling here, but I think he believed that he could continue along as he was (and had been doing for years) and there wouldn't be anything to concern him. Sure, some people would be mad about not getting their doll/refund but whatever, right? People still want to buy Dollshe dolls so it's fine, right? Only now his terrible business practices have caught up to him and stuff is suddenly getting real.

      Banned from DoA not only for Dollshe dolls but for ANY new company he makes (which I think is fair since I don't believe he'd suddenly turn into a responsible maker because its a new company). A pending lawsuit from BJDivas as a former dealer for him AND they're allowing people who placed orders directly with Dollshe to get in on that suit if they provide all the relevant info about their order. And there's all the people who are still rightfully demanding their money back since he hasn't produced what they paid for literally years ago. PP freezing/restricting his account because of so many refunds demanded/complaints.
       
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    5. What does he mean that he sold Dollshe Craft? And then goes on to say he will never sell Dollshe Craft? Translation error or just another bizarre statement that doesn't make sense?
       
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    6. @overlordu I wonder if it maybe means he sold his craft (dolls)? I also was curious about what that meant but assumed it was lost in translation.
       
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    7. That's quite a rant. Wonder what he's on? Ironic that Dollshe never acknowledges that his financial problems with his doll company and Paypal, and his loss of prestige with the BJD community (not to mention his recent ban from DoA) are ALL his own fault, and no one else's. Get a grip, Dollshe.
       
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    8. Good. I'm glad he is mad.....so are we that have been waiting for our dolls we purchased with hard earned money.
       
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    9. I read double talk on that rant. He contradicts himself.
       
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    10. Speaking of things lost in translation. In the Korean text Mr. Dollshe lists off six businesses he's trying to raise startup funds for. These got ignored by the autotranslator it seems:nowords:

      Here is the breadcrumb trail he left for those still seeking justice, in case he nukes the Dollshe site....
      Sports brand XIXXO - not to be confused with the golfing brand, XXIO
      Cosmetics brand BUBOWA
      Character OCTOYA - seems to be some kind of children's mascot a la hello kitty
      Handmade object noocoo - appears to be some sort of home decor/tchotchke/NFT project
      Leather brand L7P(Lucky 7 Pollack)
      Art toy and street fashion brand MASKAZ

      Most of these don't lead to anything at the time of posting. but he's at least registered the trademark for noocoo.
      He first brought up the bubblepets back in 2016 and they're still listed on the Dollshe website. I wonder how he intends to divorce it from the Dollshe brand and present it as something new :ablink:
       
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    11. So he owes a lot of people refunds/dolls and has neither but he's trying to start up 6 new businesses? Plus whatever the Club Coco BJD one is (is it another new company? one he's a partner in? one where he works as a hired sculptor only?). This is just so much bad everything. it also raises the question in my mind: How much (if any) of the funds he received from orders for Dollshe dolls actually went into trying to fund the start-up of these businesses? Knowing doesn't help anyone waiting on refunds/dolls but if it could be proven he took the money for dolls and instead used it to fund these companies, that would be very, very bad for him in court.
       
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    12. Haha, I was in the yahoo group when we were first commenting on Bermann eye-candy promos. But yeah, I wouldn't doubt the yahoo group was there before that. It would be interesting to check just for fun. :) I had never heard of Dollshecraft until Bermann came out. I remember Volks, Customhouse Ai, Alchemic Labo, & Cerebrus Project...first.
       
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    13. I guess he's gotten away with his shoddy business practises for so long that he somehow thought he could just continue doing so ... Definitely delusional...

      Actually, is he only treating international customers this way (because he thinks he can get away with it)? Does anyone know if the Korean BJD community is aware of all this? I think someone posted here a while back about a post they found on a Korean forum from someone who was concerned about their Dollshe order, but that seemed be all there was about this situation? Though if I'm remembering correctly, I think the poster also mentioned that most Korean forums are members-only/region-locked, so I guess it's difficult to find out more info.
       
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    14. That list of companies would be hard for even a competent businessman to pull off without being a nepo baby. :huh?:
      Waiting for his next announcement of Dollshe University and red MASKAZ caps. :|
       
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    15. Regarding this, I was going back through the thread and found this post from February 2022:
      The artist who sculpted Leo is keara.nui on Instagram, but I couldn't find any post there referring to it. Wondering if she deleted it.

      Anyways, this interests me because I think selling Dollshe Craft to someone else would be a huge improvement, so it's a shame that DK either sold it and bought it back, or changed his mind about selling it, or something like that. As we all know, he's an incredible sculptor despite everything. If someone else took over the business side there would actually be hope of the company recovering :pout: If only he didn't see himself as some kind of mastermind businessman who's going to strike it rich with his genius ideas any day now, really.

      As far as customers in other countries, I've wondered about that too. I've heard very little about delays for customers in Asia, and there do seem to be a fair number of DoA users who also visit foreign language social platforms. Since this has been going on for a while, you'd think those folks would mention it if Koreans were also complaining about delays. TBH it wouldn't surprise me if he prioritized Korean orders, because it's easier for them to go after him legally :lol:
       
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    16. A friend of mine speaks Korean, though not fluent... I'll ask her if her skills are still good enough that she can at least compare the English and Korean versions for differences or things that got lost in translation like the other brands or the selling thing
       
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    17. I've seen a post on Korean Twitter some time back about how they reported him to the Korean consumer agency, but nothing happened. (I don't understand Korean, so this information was learned via Google translate.)
       
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    18. Den of Angels yahoo was started by Helene, Janne, and Aimee and it was a Volks discussion group..... as I remember. The other BJD companies were later added as they met the criteria. There was even a yahoo group for the Customhouse Ai.
       
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    19. Sorry to butt in with a different topic, but does anyone here know if Miracle Doll resin colours match any Dollshe resin colours?
      For example, Miracle tan, and Dollshe Copper Oriental?
      Miracle NS and Dollshe Pure Oriental?

      I'm asking because there's a pretty nice Miracle Doll boy body that might work with Dollshe heads, if the resin is close enough.
       
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    20. It's kind of sad in a way, because I was telling a friend about what's happened with him recently and she was shocked. She hasn't been heavy in the BJD scene since like 2012ish or so, and she was like "But he's so highly respected, he's one of the best!" She had no idea his reputation and his business had been crumpling for years.

      If he had found himself getting in over his head, he should have admitted it and taken a step back from new orders until he was able to fulfill his old ones, and gotten outside help, even if it meant digging into his bottom line a little bit. Now he's completely ruined everything he had going for him in the BJD community and maybe even other opportunities he might've had. It's not even the DoA ban, but most people with a little bit of common sense won't dare do business with him or any new endeavors he's got going on. He got stupid and greedy, and is just a bad business man.
       
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