Dollshe Discussion - Part Seventeen

Thanks again, this makes planning much easier

 

I love this photo - beautiful doll and shot.

 

Thank you so much, @SKYWHYS.

 

I'm loving the vibe of this photo and his smirk. His sofa is everything.

This week my tan sa dollshe husky Tariq arrived. I've spent this morning getting him settled in. I will definitely commission a proper wig for him soon. And I'm still debating his eye color (he's borrowing a spare pair at the moment)

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Oh grumpy face! Congratulations on his arrival!

 

Congratulations @Nikki'sNewObsession - your guy is wonderful!

 

Thank you, both

 

@Nikki'sNewObsession
He's so pretty, congrats! Husky is my favorite Dollshe (actually the sculpt that got me interested in the hobby), so it's always so nice to see one.

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Does anyone have an Old Classic Saint (the headcap version released after the faceplate one) and a Grown Saint that they can take comparison pics of, including inside the head/headback? Or either of those that they can get pics of next to an Old Classic Husky/Hound or an Aramis (first version, not Grown)? We're pretty sure that my mom got a Grown Saint head, instead of the Old Classic version. I've been having trouble finding pics of the Old Classic, especially inside the head, and who knows when her Grown Saint will get here for us to compare ourselves.

 

Thank you. Yes, I love all the classic sculpts so much. I'm very happy to have him and my saint.

Does anyone know what size shirts and pants best fit 18m old body? He's a bit smaller than my saint, so some eid shirts I have are too big for him. Would sd17 be better? Thank you for any help you can offer.

 

I can't provide photos of Aramis with a head back Saint, as I currently only have the older head plate Saint and an original style Aramis, but let me know if you'd like comparison photos of them.

I used to own an original Saint (from way back when) and also the "newer" version of Saint with head back. Those were both small heads, as is the head plate style.

I think Grown Saint is supposed to be larger than other versions of this sculpt, with a larger neck opening to accommodate the Mystic body he was designed for.

If your doll has a Classic or Pure body, does the head seem to sit loosely on the neck and appear somewhat "bobble headed"?

 

You're welcome.

If he's on the Pure body or old Hound body, then clothes labeled 70cm/Hound should work. Dollmore Model size clothes should also fit. If they have a lot of stretch, you can probably get some SD13 tops to fit though they could be a bit short (I've gotten some tank tops to fit, but they were also kind of long compared to some of my other SD13 tops). I've also gotten my boys into wine bottle sweaters lol. Just don't go for anything labeled 70cm Uncle, those will definitely be too big.

Actually, that would help, thank you! From my research, it looks like the original Saint, faceplate Saint, and newer Saint have similar sized heads.

He's on the Rhythmos body and isn't loose on it, but it has a slightly thicker neck than the old Hound and Pure body (we need to try him on one of those). He does look big on it, though. And looks big compared to the original style Aramis he's sitting next to.

 

Okay, here's a pic of my guys sans wigs, so you can better see comparison between head sizes.

Halim is the face plate version of Saint on original 70cm "Classic" style body. Virgil is an original style Aramis on 70cm Pure body.

Hope this helps!

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Aside from the scale, (measure the head circumference? Should be pretty noticeable, something like 21cm vs 23cm) sculpting details set the Grown version apart from the previous incarnations. Most easily identifiable to me are the ears.

Compare the rounded shape of earth.spirits' guy's ears to the more angular shape of Grown Saint's in this blog post.

Grown Saint head’s original form is almost done. - DollShe craft

Grown Saint would also have the name sculpted inside the headcap in a nice font, but I don't think they were doing that yet with the post-faceplate headcap version...? Someone can correct me.

When my order eventually arrives I do intend to take side-by-side photos of old vs. new Saints for posterity...

 

@earth.spirits
Thank you! That does help. I got pics of her Saint next to Aramis and Husky, Saint looks bigger but measured the same... (I always forget how much Aramis' ears stick out lol) He also wasn't loose on the Pure body, though did seem to have a bit more gapping at the neck than with the Rythmos.

@Havra
Thank you! We measured his head and it came out to 21cm, same as Aramis and Husky (even though Saint is bigger than them when lining up the head openings...). He does have the more angular ears like Grown Saint. But looking at this picture, it looks like the 2012/old Saint has more angular ears than the 2009/faceplate Saint? So now I'm even more confused lmao.
He does have the nice writing, with the Dollshe plate inside the headcap. But I'm also not sure if they were doing that with the 2012 version.

I've got some comparison pics in the spoilers of him with original Aramis and re-released Husky. Though, pretty sure he's a Grown Saint and not the old Saint like she ordered...

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@LupusDarkmoon The measurements I gave were an off-the-top-of-my-head wild guess and I don’t have my new Saint yet to compare, but I just measured my faceplate version at 20cm. That looks like a Grown head to me. Overall size, ears, distance between the eyes--and the interior details and interior headcap ridge design are an exact match for my Grown Bernard and Hound.

Seems like Dollshe is sending the larger newer Grown heads on the slimmer, older bodies. There was another box opening recently where that seemed to be the case. Which ... if it works for your mum, fantastic, but if it's not what she ordered... ... it's false advertising if nothing else.

If anyone with a Grown Saint could confirm head circumference and neck hole measurements, that would be more definitive, but that’s sure what it looks like.

 

@LupusDarkmoon - You're welcome, glad to help.

Looking at your comparison photos, I agree with @Havra - I think that's a Grown Saint head.

 

@Havra
Thank you for measuring him and the info on your other Grown heads! I'm honestly surprised the head we have didn't measure more than the faceplate Saint.

I'm not at all surprised that Dollshe pulled a switcheroo, but it is disappointing. She specifically ordered the Old Classic, not the Grown. She does have a Grown Saint on order that will, hopefully, get here one day. But she's pretty upset that Dollshe pulled this bs. Figure we'll probably give BJDivas a heads up, in case anyone else is waiting for an Old Classic Saint. We doubt Dollshe would do anything to fix the problem, even though she didn't get what she ordered. :/
Now I'm wondering if any Old Classic Hounds and Bernards are getting switched with Grown versions... She's waiting on an IM Hound, but Dollshe didn't make a Grown version of him...so hopefully he'll actually be the right head.

Maybe I should make a picture request thread lmao

@earth.spirits
Yeah, it's pretty disappointing. Looks like we'll have to find an older Saint secondhand, since Dollshe's apparently switched them. :/

 

Has anyone seen that if you look on the instagram of the artist who sculpted leo for dollshe, she says Dollshe is becoming an 'independent subsidiary' soon. So they are selling ownership rights or some of them to a larger company? That does seem to imply that dollshe is having serious financial issues now, but if it goes well they may end up in a more secure position for those aiting on dolls.

 

what's the @ of the artist?

dollshe said something similar on his IG.

 

Mr Kim's IG is whoami_820 right?