clothes or not would be fine, whatever's most convenient, but without wig would more telling.... I'm guessing anyway XD I'm trying to better sense of the head to neck/shoulders proportions mainly. I do also have a 15yo Girl Estella, and her head is really big -- even though it's supposedly the smaller one lol! So if it's even in that range i'm sure it's fine. Just surprised how unhelpful the DT flickr album photos are.