1. It has come to the attention of forum staff that Dollshe Craft has ceased communications with dealers and customers, has failed to provide promised refunds for the excessive waits, and now has wait times surpassing 5 years in some cases. Forum staff are also concerned as there are claims being put forth that Dollshe plans to close down their doll making company. Due to the instability of the company, the lack of communication, the lack of promised refunds, and the wait times now surpassing 5 years, we strongly urge members to research the current state of this company very carefully and thoroughly before deciding to place an order. For more information please see the Dollshe waiting room. Do not assume this cannot happen to you or that your order will be different.
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  2. Dollshe Craft and all dolls created by Dollshe, including any dolls created under his new or future companies, including Club Coco BJD are now banned from Den of Angels. Dollshe and the sculptor may not advertise his products on this forum. Sales may not be discussed, no news threads may be posted regarding new releases. This ban does not impact any dolls by Dollshe ordered by November 8, 2023. Any dolls ordered after November 8, 2023, regardless of the date the sculpt was released, are banned from this forum as are any dolls released under his new or future companies including but not limited to Club Coco BJD. This ban does not apply to other company dolls cast by Dollshe as part of a casting agreement between him and the actual sculpt or company and those dolls may still be discussed on the forum. Please come to Ask the Moderators if you have any questions.
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Rule Update Feeler Threads No Longer Permitted in the Marketplace

Dec 19, 2013

    1. In the interests of improving Marketplace security and in advance of further Marketplace changes, Den of Angels will no longer permit "feeler" sales posts.

      "Feeler" sales posts are sometimes used when a seller is looking for a specific type of buyer (a longtime fan of that particular sculpt), when the seller does not know how to price the doll, when only a very high price would make the sale worthwhile, or when the doll is not quite cleaned up and ready for sale. Because these sales posts often lack concrete information on the condition of the doll or the payment terms, these posts will no longer be permitted.

      New feeler sales threads posted after today's date will be removed without notice. All current sales threads marked as feelers have until January 1st to be edited or marked for graveyarding. All threads left uncorrected on January 2nd will be removed.

      If you have any questions regarding this rule change, please post in Ask the Moderators.
       
      #1 DoA Mod Squad, Dec 19, 2013
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    2. I actually love this modification of the rules, because I never know how to respond to a feeler ad. If I want the doll, I don't want to have to go through some painful negotiation with an undecided seller. As a frequent second-hand doll buyer, I feel this is a good improvement to our marketplace.
       
      #2 Kathleen, Dec 21, 2013
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    3. This is a brilliant idea, feeler threads seemed so vague and ambiguous - too complicated! Thanks for this decision :)
       
      #3 Harlequin-Elle, Dec 21, 2013
    4. SO glad that this is a new rule! I never felt comfortable asking the seller the price, there was never a concrete price. :(
       
      #4 Heyit'sDiana, Dec 22, 2013
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    5. Good move, I think.
       
      #5 Gothico, Dec 22, 2013
    6. Well said:) I also have much apprehension when approaching a seller who's labeled a sales thread as a "feeler". To me it implies a sense of uncertainty on the end of the seller in terms of actually committing to a sale. I want to make a deal, not enter an emotional boxing match. Being also guilty of posting "feeler" threads, I know what kind of message it sends the buyer and does no one any good. I appreciate this change very much.
       
      #6 Mitya, Dec 23, 2013
    7. A VERY welcome adjustment! Bravo, y'all!
       
      #7 Baakay, Dec 26, 2013
    8. i agree! ^^
       
      #8 Archangel, Dec 28, 2013
    9. Thank you for this! I hit the back button any time I run into a feeler thread. There's an implied lack of commitment that just spells trouble, and I don't want to bother with all the negotiating. If someone doesn't have a price for their doll, or is not certain they even want to sell it, then I have to wonder why they are wasting space on the forum posting. I always found feeler threads to be annoying and think this is a great improvement.
       
      #9 Isabeau, Dec 30, 2013
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