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For Second Hand Owners - Your stance in changing the doll's name

Dec 21, 2016

    1. Well if one sells of a doll, i assume the owner is no longer interested in the doll. Besides of that, as soon as you payed for it, its yours and you can do with it what you like. In my case i didn't even know the names and characters from 4 of my 5 used dolls.

      Only Jessica, a Bluefairy Jerome, i bought from a girlfriend kept her name and character, but she was modded to fit her storyline. She stayed a mage, but she got a other job and is now the healer/recharger of spellsinger Tesla.

      In case of Ciske my Dollzone Floy, he was so neglected and abused he didn't even want his old name and character.
       
    2. My first second hand didn't have a name to be honest, but my dog is second hand lol Her name was Lucy we call her Luka now. Hopefully that brings some light towards how I feel about the names xD
       
    3. Most of the time I don't know my dolls' previous incarnations, though there have been some exceptions. One seller asked me during the sale transaction not to reuse the name, as she was planning on reshelling that doll's character. Most of the time I haven't been interested in keeping the name and felt no particular way about it, but I do have one doll I bought secondhand whose name I did keep. She was literally the only doll of that particular sculpt (Nobilitydoll Dew) I had ever seen, and I literally just couldn't think of her as anything other than that name (Kasha)!
       
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    4. No, I don't feel the need to ask and don't feel bad about changing the name. For me, whatever name and character that doll once had, it's completely wiped clean in my care and we have a new relationship. It's kinda like being reborn :lol:
       
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    5. My dolls have the names given by the companies/sculptors. Interestingly, my father lives on a large sailboat he bought used, a 1970 Morgan 42 racer/cruiser. It has it's original name. He told me it's bad luck to rename a boat. If you buy one second hand, it's only OK to change it's location/home, typically written under the name on the stern. Now I know a boat isn't a doll, but if there's luck involved, a sailboat can kill you!
       
    6. Considering that a large number of people in this hobby find sculpts to shell characters that they have, to me it would be very odd to keep the name and persona of the former owner.
       
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    7. I only have one secondhand doll and I don't even know what the previous owner even named him, if she did. In fact, he was secondhand to her. I'm even friends with her, and she never said a thing when I named him Mattie. Personally, anyone who sells their doll and expects the buyer to keep the name they gave the doll needs to get over themselves.
       
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    8. I have a second hand doll, but the ex-owner didn't tell me her name. She came as a girl but I clean up her old face up. He is a boy now.
       
    9. I never had any issues with changing a dolls name after buying them second-hand. New home, new character, new doll xD Although I have to admit, that the dolls, I've bought second-hand, where just called by their company-names by the sellers and I had no clue if they've ever had some sort of character connected to them.
       
    10. To me, if the doll had a name and a character, chances are I'd change it up as quickly as possible since I don't feel comfortable taking on someone else's idea. Just about every secondhand doll I've brought in already had a name, character, and design that their previous owners gave them...and I immediately nuked it all. I'm super picky about what I want and what I like for my dolls, and for any doll that leaves my collection I fully expect them to have a complete makeover!
      (but I'm still interested to see what their new owners do with them, new name, look, and everything!)
       
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    11. Nah, it's a doll, not a dog. I wouldn't ask or check in at all.
       
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    12. Nope. I bought it. It's mine. I'll name it anything I darn well please. If a former doll owner takes issue with their former doll's new owner changing its name, then they shouldn't have sold it to begin with. :)
       
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    13. I mean... unless you're completely keeping the character they have hahaha
      As everyone else said, it's your doll now. I think it'd be weird to keep the same name/character. Dolls are just physical representations of the character, not the actual character themselves.
       
    14. No, honestly I rarely even know the name they were given before they came to me, just the sculpt and company etc. There was one instance where I knew the name the owner gave them, and coincidentally the name I used was similar, but everything else was very different when it comes to her character.

      When I buy a doll, I don't even think about what the original owner saw in them- I buy them for what I personally see in them. For example, I found one of the previous owners of my BF Louis months after I got her myself, and they dressed her in a blonde wig with victorian clothing. In my home, she has blue hair and wears primarily white mori clothing, and that's what I envisioned her to be wearing when I bought her. We all see something different, even in the exact same dolls- that's what beautiful about dolls, and on a wider scale, any type of art; we all see and feel different things.
       
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    15. The doll isn't an adopted child, it hasn't a memory of its previous life. So it won't be disturbed if I change its identity.
      And I suppose the previous owner woudn't care so much or she/he wouldn't sell it at all.
      If I buy a second hand doll, for me, it's a new doll no matter if it's coming from a private seller or directly from a factory.
       
    16. Oh, also, in one case, @fishcake sold me a doll for a modding project after I was mourning losing an opportunity to buy an already modded doll. She was quite encouraging of my plan to turn the doll she sold me into Aeona, and Aoena has been slowly coming together for years (new plan: make her outfit out of silk charmeuse to minimize bulky seams. Silk dupioni is a bit stiff for that)
       
    17. I would have no trouble changing the name at all, I can't really imagine having any second thoughts about it honestly. Most dolls I see second hand don't even have their previous name or identity listed unless I'm seeing the for sale post directly from an owner I follow. However, if I was bringing home a doll from another hobbyist whose work I keep up with and whose character I was really familiar with....I would feel a bit strange just being like "ya your OC's physical form is just gonna be my OC's physical form now lol".
       
    18. It never even occurred to me to ask permission. I don't have any idea what the doll's name was before I got her. I'm not sure the owner did all that much with her, she was posted nude in her box with no wig. Maybe she just stripped her down to sell her, though.

      I figure if they loved the doll enough to be invested in what you did with it, then it would not be for sale. I knew her name was Lark before she even got to me, and it took about a week or less, because I was lucky enough to have a responsible seller who shipped her right away. The seller seemed super nice, so I don't think she would have cared that I re-named her/my girl.
       
    19. Ive seen people sell with conditions to keeping the faceup and name and such but once you sell it you sell it, what the person does with it is their choice. Its your doll now so if you want to ask thats fine but also its yours so you dont really need to.
       
    20. That strikes me as being a bit odd. And I wonder how it would be enforced?