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How important is it to you to be "the first owner"?

Jul 21, 2020

    1. Actually face-ups are the one thing I dislike about second-hand dolls. I mean they're convenient if they happen to be lovely but I want to practice my own and while my attempts are not great so far they are passable and because the heads were blank to start I don't have to think "damn, I wiped a better face up than this!" Sometimes I won't consider a doll if the face up won't suit my purposes but it's so good it would be a crime to wipe it :aeyepop:
       
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    2. I prefer second hand! I feel like i'm discovering lost treasure or something LOL
      Plus there's the fun of trying to buy it before anyone else does!
       
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    3. I feel it would be difficult for me to find the doll I really want second hand - I tend to be very picky about every little detail, the skin tone, the body composition and with how many options and combinations there are out there for the companies that I like it is highly improbable that I will find the exact doll I want... If I did thou I'd give it a go :)
       
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    4. I wouldn't mind either way. As long as I like the way the doll looks, it is in good condition and price it can be secondhand. Given my limited funds, I'll probably have to get a doll secondhand at this point. lol
       
    5. What i consider most is the certificate of the dolls and the conditions of them. My dolls are all my treasures , no matter they have how many owners before.
       
    6. I don't mind either way. For my first I ordered direct from the company but for further purchases I would totally buy second hand for mostly financial / rarity of grail doll reasons. I like the idea of rescuing dolls though.
       
    7. I don't mind at all
      unless it's damaged
       
    8. I've been the first owner of all my dolls so far so I'm not sure I can say for certain, but I think being the owner of a second-hand doll would be really special! You get to give them a home after having been so many places with different people, which is very compelling to me :) I hope I can own one some day, but I don't think that makes me love my first-time dolls any less!
       
    9. Pretty much one doll head to toe I purchased brand new and a head that will arrive for my yosd. My other 4 1/2 dolls (need a head for one) are all secondhand (could be more idk). So far my purchases have been good. It’s been 10 years for 3 of my doll bodies so I sent them in to be worked on. Many clothes I have gotten secondhand but some I have purchased new. Seems to be easier to purchase smaller doll clothes than bigger bjd.
       
    10. I like both and both have their advantages. Buying a doll direct let's you pick exactly what you want, such as a color of resin that might be harder to find second hand. And there's something really fun and unique about the very first box open! But second hand is much faster and you can get limited or retired sculpts that you missed out

      I've got a mix of new and second hand and they're all special to me in different ways.
       
    11. I'm actually picky about being the first owner or buying dolls brand new. I'll always prefer the option to buy them new. If I buy second hand, which I have done before, the doll has to be in like-new condition. I don't really intend to sell any of my dolls.
       
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    12. I only buy secondhand dolls if they are no longer available firsthand from the artist. It's not that I'm a snob about needing a 'new' doll - it's more about the aging process. I'd rather have a brand new doll than one that's a few years closer to yellowing. :sweat
       
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    13. I prefer to buy new dolls directly from the company if available because I don’t want to have to worry about getting scammed or buying a recast. However, I don’t think preowned dolls are inferior, nor would I ever judge anyone who prefers to buy dolls secondhand!
       
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    14. I have no preference either way. Buying dolls new is fun because it’s like a blank slate - plus, and I’m sure I’m not alone in this, I think the wait is part of the fun too. Secondhand is great as well because fixing up a doll that needs a bit of work can be very rewarding, especially if you got them for a great deal.
       
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    15. I sometimes prefer being a second hand owner, I feel like I'm scooping up a doll that needs a home. That said, when it comes to LTE dolls or dolls with a limited or single release sculpts, I have a heavy preference for buying them first hand. That's simply because I know how difficult it can be to locate a doll that's no longer being made/ had a very limited release so I don't like to get too attached to a sculpt that I may never have the chance to get. I remember for a long time I was really forlorn because I thought it would be impossible for me to get a Volks Rinon since it was an older sculpt. I was lucky enough to find someone on the second hand market place who was selling her and she remains my favorite doll to this day. For the most part though, I don't hold out too much hope for getting LTE dolls secondhand (mostly because I like too many made by independent artists) and so I prefer to buy them when they're available.
       
    16. I give zero fluffs about being the first owner... BUT I am kind of a neat freak, so I only buy the doll if I'm certain that it's been well kept and is from a clean owner. Sorry if this sounds really weird, but it's something that really makes me uncomfortable. Basically I'll only buy the doll if the owner handles it carefully and wasn't careless with it. Some people let young children play with their dolls, or keep them next to food/grease which damages it. I hope that makes sense. Usually I get a good idea of how well kept the doll is by the way the owner photographs it.

      The grossest thing is getting a doll that's secondhand and discovering it has a smell, and visual marks. One time I got a doll like that, and it was advertised as having some stains when in fact it was ENTIRELY covered in stains -- to the point where it looked tan when it was actually a light skin tone. Another time, someone sent me a $500 doll with zero packaging or padding, just thrown into a cardboard box. They did not even remove the wig from the doll, or cover the faceup. It's a miracle she suffered no damage. Those scenarios are the ones I am trying to avoid.
       
    17. I definitely don’t have a preference. I’ve been a lurker for a while and now have the means to start collecting... which unfortunately means I have a few dolls that I have wanted to collect that are no longer in production. So, in all honesty, I think that most of my collection will end up being pre-owned.
       
    18. Not really. The new doll in the original box is an amazing thing, but there are sometimes treasures in the second hand!
       
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    19. Not so much from experience but just kind of a feeling: I think buying secondhand dolls is really neat because they come with a history. Like thats a doll someone loved and styled and now you get to love and style it and maybe in the future someone else will too! The dolls got Experience
       
    20. I don't find it necessary to be the first owner personally. As long as the doll is in good condition, that's all that matters to me.