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LUTS, How can I trust you again?

Jul 31, 2007

    1. Awww thats horrible. But I've never seen the inside of the calf looking like that. Its obviously a casting/resin defect. Since the resin is so thin, the tightness of the stringing probably caused it to crack just sitting there.

      I would have been pissed off if any of my dolls broke by themselves, but I understand why they wouldn't refund the leg for free. 2 months is a WHILE to try to state there was a problem with the doll. I don't think ANY company would refund anything 2 months after the item was bought though.

      I absolutely love Luts, and I don't think it has to do with their quality. They are ONLY human, and flaws happen. But the fact that they sent the doll without inspecting for defects/flaws does show some careless-ness.
       
    2. I'm sorry to hear that this has happened with you..
      But in a sense... You should've opened the box to inspect as soon as you received your new babe. Luts is not responsible for you not checking to make sure things were alright after you got it. Like they said, it's hard to tell two months after the fact. It's common sense, honey.

      It could be that that happened during shipping. I'm sure that luts sent the doll looking alright.

      Please don't lose faith. I love them very much. I've dealt with them a lot, and they've never failed me. They try to fix things when they go wrong... And like ALL companies you deal with, there are always gonna be mistakes. I'm 110% positive you're not the only one who's had a broken doll problem.

      I hope things go well. <3
       
    3. Whether she should have inspected the doll right away or not...

      Whatever their decision about giving a refund...

      The quality is still rather surprisingly low, isn't it?

      It seems like just saying, 'well, she should have checked the doll first' doesn't quite cover it. This kind of damage ought never to occur in the first place, and if it does, there is a problem deeper than the length of the refund time limit.
       
    4. Just looking at the leg all together... It looks rather hastily made and cheap. The resin is lumpy and thin and has no pivit-round system for the ankle to move on. That sort of sculpt almost encourages pressure cracks.
       
    5. Yes, she should have checked the doll upon receiving it, but that has nothing to do with the service she should have gotten if the part is indeed defective.

      Could the crack have happened in different ways? Sure. But, if the part can be shown to be defective to begin with, then how or when the crack happened, or better yet, whether or not a crack has happened, should not affect the after sale service given.

      What if someone did a check and saw that uneven part and there is no crack yet? Should Luts replace that part because it's obviously not well made and below their standard? Or should they say no, because although it's defective, it's not broken yet?

      Many, many companies will replace defective items if it can be shown clearly that it was made that way regardless of purchase date or whether or not it has broken yet.

      I think whether or not to give the customers the benefit of the doubt when something is broken is up to each company, but replacing defective products should be part of the after sale service.
       
    6. Thank you for all of your replies.

      (1) I did checked her when she arrived home -- head, hands, ect; but I didn't check her ankle parts. If it was hurt during the shipping, how possible that only the ankle parts broke?

      (2) I know I should checked it MORE carefully, but please be noticed that, from the inside picture, it is more than possible that the calf got broken during the 2 months by itself. Just like PartII, one of my friend's EL's ankle got broken by itself 21 days after getting home.

      (3) I know 2 month is a long time for checking the doll all over, but 2 month is not a long time for a resin doll's life at all. I won't post anything here if luts dolls are like Volks' or other companies', having even and smooth inside and can balance the pressure by itself. But the fact is, when facing their defective product, luts still asked customers to take all the responsibility.

      (4) I post them here to tell you the resin quality of luts. Actually more than 10 ELs here have that chaps, maybe the number is far more than that. Believe it or not :)
      When I first heard about bad deal with luts, I was on luts' side too ^^ But now, I become much more wiser.
       
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    9. I don't know if it has been said, but franky I don't feel that luts has at all been unfair to you. You have to look at it from their standpoint as a business. With the shushu, you complained 2 months later, you may say you kept her in box and all that, but they have no proof of that and they cannot give everyone the benefit of the doubt becuase that could lead to too much money loss. As for the whole chapping of Els.... The question I want to know is why is it ONLY El, and from what you show that is a standard male body so why does it not happen to other males. Plus there is nothing luts can do about it unless you address it immediatly upon arrival, even if it happens over time there is nothing they can do to control it, they make the product they feel is good and has been good, but one or two bad batches happen, ESPECIALLY with resin. But they can't do anything becuase what's to say that for some people it happens to they didn't do something to cause it? Especially with dealing internationally despite the price of the merchandise luts cannot see what everybody does or what happens to everybody's doll. The fact that stuff is happening can be brought to their attention and they may be able to look into it, but that is all. And maybe they will offer that you can purchase replacement parts, but as the kind of company that they are that's really all they can do.
       
    10. :o That's really awful. I'm saving for an El-SS, and hoped to commission you to do his face up when he arrived.

      I hope they have better resin by the time I get my baby, because only El suits the character. :( I'm so sorry that your precious was broken due to faulty resin. *hugs*
       
    11. To be honest yes you should check for damages, but you now know that very well :)

      However the inside of it looks like hell and is obviously not casted well. How on earth can they send that to a customer?

      And the resin having it's flaws.. I know that I will be very carefull buying from luts than as these things are not supposed to happen. If you send out your stuff in such a condition (and they should have noticed it) than that doesn't speak well for the company.
       


    12. (1) As what I've already said, the key thing here is not complain or unfair or anything else. I just want to let you know the incredibably bad quality of luts dolls. From the inside pictures provided, I think everyone can see how tough the part is.

      (2) "Why only ELs?"
      Yeah, we are also wondering about it. But I think for this question, you should ask luts, not us, shouldn't you? :) I really don't know the answer. The only thing I know is that my S's skin got chaps and I was MORE than worried about him before I finally changed his body.


      (3) Luts has the right to doubt me, but they should firstly make sure that the dolls they are selling are of GOOD quality. Can you say "the part is well-done" from the comparison picture? Sorry, at least, I cannot.
       
    13. i feel sorry about your girl >< and your situation.

      did you show them the inside of your girls leg?? and show them how thin is that??? perhaps you should get someone's elf shu shu and see if it's the similar thinness, if it's not the same, i suggest, take photo side by side and show them! then i think you can argue with luts about it and ask them to explain why is it so and ask them to replace the part FOC. If that's the case, i don't see why you should not fight back with them.

      Perhaps like they say, the QC may be lacking recently? or perhaps the resin batch or monsoon reasons..

      So far, i have alot of friends own cp dolls and never heard any problem from them at all.
       
    14. The new parts luts sent to me, are exactly the same like the one shown in the picture.
      Now I'm totally disappointed.
       
    15. i can't say this better myself.

      to bread17:
      i'm very sorry for what happened to your poor girl and is surprised to know that Luts sent you items with similar quality AGAIN. i can see why you are disappointed.

      to others:
      obviously she has learnt her lesson the hard way. and, she has made it very clear in her post that "I posted the whole thing here is not to complain or argue about something. So please don't post "LUTS is totally fair to you" or " You should check the doll carefully from head to ankels" in this thread, since I know it was my fault that I didn't check the doll carefully enough."

      so, although she has to bear part of the responsibility; although you may disagree with her and see this thread as a complaint, please, don't be too harsh.
       
    16. Thank you haha : )

      I added the sentence to my post is because I didn't make myself clear enough and a lot of people disunderstood my purpose :)

      I'm not coming to complain, but to share my experience about resin quality of luts, and let people know what we are getting from the used-to-be-good company.
       
    17. bread17: D:!! i think the more you should argue with luts, because what if that similar replacement leg have the same incident happen again? *touch wood*
      I still think it's even better to reason with them again, this time with stronger points. cos you are not at the losing end of the reasoning, since they send you back similar quality again.
       
    18. Dear Meeve:

      As luts, I think I already know what they'll say:

      "Here's nothing wrong with the leg part, all of our Minifee products are like this~"
      :)

      If it were an accident, luts wouldn't send new parts to me of the same poor quality.
      So I believe it is what they call "standard".

      By the way, besides luts, I think some people here are also considering the parts as good-quality ones? See, when customers are satisfied, why luts admits its mistakes?
       
    19. *sigh i don't know, if i'm your position i will probably just have a say back to them. or even show them that comparison photos of other companies though i know it will be rude to them.

      as im just curious, does all mnf have such thinness in the resin esp the leg part??? i never own a mnf before, only delf boy > <
       
    20. Maybe later I will. When I have enough time to deal that with luts and its defenders.
      Thank you so much.
      :)