"Never to be sold again"

Foxface, that's pretty much in line with other posts that person has made. I've decided they are a troll and ignore them completely.

 

...excuse me?

I'm terribly sorry to disagree with you but if my daughter was that sick I don't give a flying rat's ass what any company asked me to do or not to do with my dolls. No contract over a material item is worth more than my child's health, thank you OH so much.

You blacklist me for selling off something of monetary value to pay for much-needed health care for my child, I blacklist you and avoid ever doing business with you again. It's really just that simple.

 

... Wow, trollery. ;;

Tenshis aren't bingo prizes, they're door prizes. Everybody who attends Dolpa gets a number, and if your number comes up attached to a Tenshi, it's yours, whether or not you wanted it. Quite frankly, that kind of unsolicited giving (and then attaching a "No Resale" expectation on it) puts a burden on the recipient, a burden which often turns out to be heavier than they expected, as Idrisfynn & Kiyakotari both described.

I was sitting at that same lucky table in 2007; I won the third Rei-Tenshi, even though angel baby fetus dolls give me the creeps, and I would never have entered for it if there WAS a choice of prizes. But since there was no choice, when my number came up, I immediately panicked, "How can I sell this grossout thing without being publicly crucified?" However, I wound up bonding with the creepy little bugger very strongly before I even got off the elevator back up to my hotel room, and before I left L.A. I was in love... so the prospect of having to initiate a Super Secret Ninja Grey-Market Tenshi Resale ceased to be a problem. But the spectre of that burden remained, especially since some of our normally-sane-and-logical friends suddenly get passionately, nastily cutthroat when it comes to those Tenshis. Something about Tenshis make nice collectors turn savage.

This is very astute. It's similar to the rule of lending money; never lend unless you're willing to take the chance of never seeing that money again. For random gift-giving, you have to take the chance that the recipient won't feel the same about it as you do. Particularly, if you give away a lot of stuff that's encrusted with flowers & tulle & angel wings, there is really quite a high chance that it'll land in the hands of people who have utterly no practical/emotional use for it.

 

hm... they don't want you to 'make a profit' off limiteds... I think it's to discourage people who will buy it specifically for reselling rather than a winner who genuinely wants the doll.

If you weren't trying to get a limited specifically to resell then I don't see any problem with selling it if you don't bond well it with it.

Another way to look at it is that someone gives you a gift... I think it's rude to re-gift that gift... but in the end, if you don't like it then you don't like it... I've had to re-gift something myself... I felt really bad about it... but I would rather have it with someone who would enjoy it rather than have it sit in the back of my closet never to be seen again.

 

There are social rules of re-gifting. It can be done gracefully. It's socially a no no to take everything you receive from one gifter and turn around to sell it to use the money to buy something you really wanted... and then announce that you did it. These things have to be subtle. "Oh... hehe... that blouse wasn't my size..." No one will fault you for returning something that isn't the correct size. A graceful way around the doll gifting would be, "Someone really really wanted it and I knew it would make them happy." Same would go for that ugly vase that doesn't fit in with your decor. "Oh that vase you gave me? My mother in law was visiting and absolutely loved it!"

But this is not true for things like family heirlooms. If you don't want a family heirloom ask around your family to see if one of them would like to be honored with the sterwardship of the item. I loved my great grandmother... but when my parents moved to Hawaii I got custody of all the furniture my mom had inherited from my great grandmother. That's a lot. So after 15 years when my sister FINALLY moved back into the area, I asked if she wanted to help take care of great grandma's furniture and offered her the desk since she needed furniture and could really use a desk. I don't need a desk at this time, I could use the storage space. It's still my mother's and her children on the mainland can use it until she decides to return to the continental united states and resume ownership of it. She seemed upset about my offering my sister custody of the desk until I explained that it's still in our immediate family and my sis could really use a desk right now.

 

It's up to the (present) owner of the doll as to whether they want to resell it if that's their wish.

 

They do have you fill out paperwork with your name on it, logging you as the winner of that Tenshi... so if it really came down to it, I guess, they know who's 'supposed' to have that Tenshi... but it wasn't a no-resale agreement, no. Resale being so taboo, that's socially-imposed.

 

Hmm, if the item was a gift or prize from an event with a "no resale" option, I'd accept it. If it turned out I did not want it, then I would gift it to someone who does want it.
Purchases however, are a different story, If an item for sale has a "no resale" requirement on it, then the company would have just lost a sale from me.

 

Well, I can say that I hope you NEVER have children if you'd rather have them die than sell a doll over some stupid stipulation.

Ludicrous comment, seriously.

 

I think they were a troll.

But... yeah... the sentiment is true. Life trumps luxury items. Sometimes a trip to the pawn shop means putting food on the table or a roof over your head. Life happens. Priorities.

And the age old adage, "It's just Things."

 

I won't bother echoing everyone else, but has a company ever done anything if a "don't sell" doll is sold? Blacklist, refuse to sell again, or anything?

I have to admit that reselling a doll seems like quite a hassel, so I probably wouldn't bother. My mom has already gotten some surprise dolls in her orders, but I think she ended up sharing them with my godmother. However, if I ever got a Sei or a Rei (neither of which I want), I already know what would happen to it. It would become part of a "Fairy in a birdcage" piece, and I would totally forget about it.

 

You've bought it / paid for it. Its your property. You can sell it if you want. I generally buy things to keep. However the only kind of "never to be sold to a 3rd party" restrictions that makes any sense is if they offer to buy it back should you ever want to part with it.

 

Wow--as a new collector (to BJDs) I've never heard of this policy. I think it's an interesting concept, and a good idea (for the company), if it's the goal to make the doll more highly sought after. However, I do wonder how on earth this policy could possibly be enforced. How would the second buyer know that he or she was buying a doll he or she wasn't allowed to buy, for instance? It's quite an interesting dilemma. It seems like the company would have to rely on the honesty of its original buyers for enforcement.

 

On another website I've been on, there was a very similar debate about owner's wishes after they sell them, and I take the same side. After you sell it, you have no control, even if it's a company and not a individual. If someone bought or was lucky enough to get their hands on a doll, they can do what they please with it. They can even resale in my opinion.

 

Until they change the definition of these words, I will do as I please with what I buy and only consider the wishes of the original owner if I have rented or borrowed or, well, you get the picture.

 

Unless it’s enforceable I’d say ignore it.

 

Hmm, this is interesting because I just sold a doll to one of my close friends, and I got a little weird over it. I didn't want to sell the doll to someone I didn't know personally, because I wanted the doll to be taken care of (and she is being taken Very good care of thankfully!)

Its easy to get attached to these little resin kiddos. My Elliot is like a pet of sorts to me, except he never poops on my carpet... But whether they're considered kids or pets or art, they're dear to us and that makes the idea of selling them off a little uncomfortable.

Still, at the end of the day, these dolls are expensive. Their resale value is high, especially for those who modify them well. We're people and we gotta eat. I sell paintings for cash all the time. Art gets sold. Such is life :/