"Never to be sold again"

Personally, I have the option of getting a loan from my parents before I would ever have to sell any of my dolls (I have one BJD, but have two other large collections of dolls). They know my dolls mean a lot to me, and would support me through financial difficulty if I -really- needed it, rather than having to sell them.

So, I feel pretty safe in saying that I love my dolls and anything that I get that I love, I never intend to sell. So it would be ok to me to get something that was never intended for resale. Unless I didn't like it, in which case I'd probably make a gift of it.

 

It is generally dependent on whether or not, in the end, i am able to bond with the doll or not. If not, what's the point of leaving it on the shelf when there are others who badly want them and would definitely cherish it more than i do. Keeping it in this situation goes against the intention of rule either.

 

I think the idea of someone never ever selling a doll is totally ridiculous. At the time a buyer might think they would never sell their beloved doll but things to happen and if it comes down to selling a doll to pay rent or be homeless I cannot imagine a company would want the owner to become homeless.
Plus by the owner selling the doll someone who would truly love the doll and who had no chance originally of getting the doll benefits by this and loves the doll even more than the owner who cannot afford to not sell said doll.
I think my opinion is pretty clear lol

 

From what I've read, people seem to be ok with trading a gift doll you don't like for a doll you do. However, I think selling a doll is basically the exact same thing as trading it.

Say you have a doll you don't want, another person has a doll they don't want, and you each want eachother's dolls. You trade, and everybody is happy.

Now say you have a doll you don't want, and somebody else wants it but doesn't have any doll that you want. Instead, they "trade" you their money for your doll, and you each get something you want. More likely than not, you'd probably use the money you got to buy a doll you want, so to me the money acts like a middle step between dolls. I don't think it's bad at all to sell a gift doll so that you can buy a doll you do want.

 

Hmm even though I understand perfectly how the company are thinking about this subject, it is true what some have said, that people do change their minds and taste over time. Some dolls that I wanted and bought a few years back I now feel I can part with cause I felt my taste has changed. Just happens- people change .

 

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I think that when you get a gift it tacky to turn around and sell it ^^
esp. when it's something so rare as a sei/rei tenshi!
i would be sooo happy to receive one as a gift but i think its meaning is lost to have to pay for it~ just my opinion :p

 

I dont know much about this, but if I got a free doll and didnt want it I would re-gift it.

 

i sold a doll that i won "free" from a company once. When he didn't really work for me (just sat there without really being played with) i tried to swap but i didn't get offers for anything i even remotely wanted so woulnd up contacting someone who had PMed me earlier with one of those "if you would ever decide to sell i'd love to make you an offer" messages. I don't regret it since now he's with a happy and appreciative owner, but i did feel a little guilty for taking that $$ ... though i re-invested it in another doll from that company

 

I have a doll that was 'gifted' to me. The owner was a dear friend of mine and getting out of the hobby. Her doll was part of my doll's story and so he came to live with me. Unfortunately, the dolls from that story that I thought I would never sell I did. I just unbounded with them unexpectedly and it was best for them to go. It was a hard decision even then. I will be selling the doll she gave me- but all money will go back to her and I've talked to her about it to make sure she was alright with it. It really is never say never in my mind- because you don't know what will happen and every case is different and needs to be handled differently.

 

Bird of Hermes: Well, you're being honest about it and handing the money back to her is the right thing to do.

I don't have any issues about selling a gift doll. Often when a gift doll is offered, you have to buy a doll to go into the lottery. Suppose the doll you bought was the only one you wanted. Do you have to keep a doll you don't want? Also, I'm presently part of the customhouse Buy One Get One Free so technically the extra doll is the 'gift' doll. Most people just split or sell the second doll if they don't want it and divide the cost in half. I'm the same with gift heads, I either use them to fund more dolls or buy the body for them.

 

I think that if an item is yours, do what you want with it. I find it actually rather silly that someone, whether a person, a group of people, or a company would look down on someone for selling anything, gift or no gift. Besides, it gives someone else a chance to get a doll they wanted which they normally couldn't get.

Guilt tripping people for getting rid of things? Objects? Materialistic stuff? It's silly. Imagine guilt tripping someone for selling clothes, old toys, or even things passed down from their family? Dolls are things too, and people have the freedom to choose whether they keep it or not. :]

 

if i saw for sale a ''non-sale'' doll, i'll buy it if i LIKE it. i dont really mind. its the seller who'll get the shit anyway XD
though if i had one, i wouldn't sell it on the internet because of people's reaction. (i would try to sell it to one of my friend ^^; )

 

Honestly, I think it's stupid for a company to ask that of a person. I hate to be harsh, but I think they only ask this of the customer out of their own selfishness. I guess reading some more answers to this kind of lightened my opinion, but a company shouldn't ask that of someone who's buying a very expensive item from them.

Dolls don't come first in a person's life. The person should regard them, their family, etc as first in their life. And I'm sorry, but a company can't ask someone to never sell their doll regardless of their conditions, that's a really holier-than-thou attitude to have.

Trust me, if someone's going to sell a high-priced "never to sell" doll, the one who's going to buy it is going to take care of it.

For instance, when I went to adopt my cat (whom I love so very much), the place said they would refuse to sell it to me if I didn't promise to never let him outside. I'm sorry to say this, but I loved that cat, and so I said I wouldn't, but to this day he's half-indoor and half-outdoor. I leave the garage door just enough so he can squeeze under and my door to my house open and he absolutely enjoys himself.
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That had nothing to do with dolls, but the customer who is going to a doll event and entering for one of these, most likely knows how to take care of a doll, and a person who would spend the amount of money on these dolls most likely knows how to care for it as well. Just because it's not bought from the company, doesn't meant the person buying it isn't going to love and care for it just as much as the first owner.

 

I have actually never heard of this, i didn't know that companys did this. Personally I think that a company is there is sell dolls, not to adovate who should own them after they are purchase. Past incouraging owners to take good care of their dolls I don't really think that doll companys should really be concerned with what happens to them after they get the money for them. This the opposite of the side that I would usually take, (since I'm usually all about sentimental value and such) I see what they could be trying to do, (with the scalpers) but if it worked so well why don't more companys use it.

I do not mean to offend anybody by my post, this is purely my opinion and everyone is entitled to one.

Edit: I read some previous posts, I am not againist somebody (as in an acutal person, such as a friend) giving you a doll and asking you not to sell it. If it ever comes up that you should sell it I think in a best case senario you should consult the person first. Then again it is your doll.

Again I did not mean to offend anyone

 

Well, I'm going to be contrary and say that it's OK for companies to ask this of their customers. I think in America people have an ultra-capitalist mindset which leads them to think of everything only in terms of buying and selling commodities. It is really worlds different in Asia (personally I find Asia a MUCH more pleasant place to live precisely because the prevalent attitude is so much more loving, for lack of a better word.)

Also, is it just me, or is this thread unusually full of people who have multi-hundreds to spend on dolls but are potentially on the verge of becoming homeless?

 

I've never heard of this happening. I would think, unless a buyer sign some kind of legal contract, I don't see what could stop a person from re-selling.

If a person has to go to that kind of length, or any kind of length, to make someone not resell their doll, I, as a buyer would be apprehensive about buying from that person.

There are expectations of a seller, of course; that their doll will be respected and well-cared for as best their buyer can afford.

But once a doll leaves their possession, it's not their possession anymore. Simple as that. I think that this would signal to me a potentially bad seller -- they would seem to have too much sentimental value placed on the doll for me to be comfortable buying it. But once I buy the doll, technically, I can do whatever I want with it.

I've heard a lot about bonding between doll and owner. Am I supposed to be stuck with a doll I don't really like because this person made me promise not to resell it? Am I supposed to take it back to the owner, only? Dolls are bought, sold, and traded all the time.

As I said, the most a seller should expect is that their doll is loved and cared for, or given or sold to someone else who can. It's not like a buyer's alternative to finding out that the doll isn't really what they expected is to throw it away. Then, I could see someone wanting the doll back. But if an individual seller wanted me to return it back to them, I'd feel this person was still too attached to their doll. A face-up can be wiped off, and accusing a person who bought the doll of breaking this sort of promise can't be proven -- unless there was a legal contract behind it to also not change the face-up. But then again, they wear away, too, so, you really can't accuse a person.

As for a company, I think this would really dampen my desire to want their doll. There are dozens of other doll companies that don't care what you do if you're not bonding or something, and it's so much easier to decide on a doll from one of those companies rather than risk buyer's remorse because you didn't bond with a doll you can't resell.

I think it's a bad thing for an individual or company to hold to their buyers. It's not like there's a dolly monopoly going on, so there are other choices, and other people to buy from. I think the only one who would lose out is the seller.

I have to disagree with you, there. I personally dislike when people bring "America v. Other Countries" into debates. Many Americans get offended by these sorts of remarks.

If Americans have only a "buying and selling" mindset, how do you account for the many, many devoted BJD owners who care a lot about their dolls? And if you want to talk commodities, aren't these dolls a commodity being sold by Asian countries? And not every doll company requires this of their buyers, who don't all come from America.

So, claiming Americans can be seen as heartless becomes moot because you can't stereotype BJD buyers to only America. You have people from Asia, and Europe, too. And if we're going to talk "Ultra-Capitalist", then why are ABJD companies trying to sell their product to other countries other than their own? If the Japanese, for example, believed that Americans wouldn't treat their dolls respectfully, and just buy and sell them at will, why would the Japanese -- or any country for that matter -- want to trade with us?

You have to make money - there's nothing 'capitalist' about it. If we didn't have money, we wouldn't be able to buy food, or shelter. It's not like it's going to get us anywhere if we just give all our goods and services away without fees. It's only natural to give incentives to get things done - it's human. If we didn't offer these types of incentives, it would almost be communist because we wouldn't have to do anything, because we'd falsely believe we could just take it. There are a lot of corporate business people in America who didn't start off as rich. A lot of them were like you and me, trying to get it together.

Personally, as I am trying to be fair as much as possible, I have to admit I am a little offended by this remark, because I'm an American. I think it would be hard not to be.

And I can tell you, without a doubt, that not everyone's money-hungry. If you pay attention to the people on the DoA site, for example, people aren't spending carelessly. They're saving money, and setting aside funds so that they can continue to live and get things they want. They take MONTHS trying to accumulate the funds. They believe in working hard and saving up.

And the buying and selling of parts isn't wrong, either. If you're not happy with a product, someone else will be. Ebay spans all nations, too. It doesn't make Americans any worse for wear.

 

I simply cannot understand how anyone 'sells' a doll at all.
In order to get an attachment in my girl and soon to be girls is to invest my emotions in her.

The idea feels a bit like putting a friend up for auction in a slave market.

So never sell!

 

First thing: I think it's pretentious, controlling and unrealistic for any professional doll company to expect a purchaser never to resell one of their products. Such a "contract" can't be legally enforced anyway and you can't pssibly knw what circumstances might arise whch necessitate you finding a doll a new home.

Secondly, if I ever purchased a doll from a company which made me promise never to resell (which I can't really see myself doing), I would do my best to abide by my promise, simply because I keep my promises.

Thirdly, I have sold a doll exactly once in my entire life and that was a doll that I purchased and modified to a friend's exact specifications--so the doll was never really "mine" to begin with. I was merely being compensated for materials and my custumization work. I have never sold one of my personal dolls, and I don't ever see myself doing so. But that's my choice, not some moral high ground to which I aspire.

Finally, dolls are possessions. They're objects. Whatever personalities we attribute to them, however much love we have for them, they're not alive in the way we are and they don't feel or think as we do. I'm not going to look down on or ostracize someone for selling something they own, whether they made a promise to some faceless corporation or not. I might not approve of breaking a promise--even to a faceless corporation--but in the end, it's not really my concern.

 

I'm a firm believer that preferences change over time and thus, preferences can't define who you are or keep you you over time. Which then leads me to conclude that items like bjds will be sold again. At first, some people are hesitant in selling their dolls because it means something special to them or something. However, there is no telling what happens over time with the change in circumstances leading up to the selling.