Representing your doll sexually?

I think dolls photographed sexually is the same as any artistic, sexual artwork. whether you read it as appropriate, innapropriate, kinky, tasteless or elsewise is simply your own mentality reflected back at you.
so, someone who is more conservative about sex would find it tasteless and innapropriate, someone more liberal about sex would probbaly shrug and find it no big deal. one would see a pic of handcuffs and think "oh no, arrested dolly" while another thinks of kinkyness (which had me giggling reading this thread)

so, as with all things, if you find yourself reacting to it in a certian way, figure out why you react the way you do, don't go harrasing the artist because you read intentions in their work that may not be there.

 

porn is nothing to me, and the same goes for kinky pictures of dolls. To me, it's just another bunch of pixels. I actually have a shot of my doll with his hand down his pants, nothing too kinky, and it's a really nice shot, but it's there. His hand...in his pants XD I think sexual pictures of dolls are a good way to represent your dolls in some ways, if not done excessively. Like the pic I mentioned, he has a "IDGAF" attitude, and he kinda shows it off in the pic. Idk, it's all relative to a persons taste.

 

Personally, I'm not a fan of doll nudity, but lingerie is absolutely fine. I think it's alright if whatever is done is done in good taste. I don't like it when people take pictures of their dolls objectifying themselves and each other, but, to each his own I guess.

 

Haha, I love all the posts about refering to the dolls as children and how that makes it wrong to photograph them sexually... You guys are all just really weird.

My doll is based on my character (or I've made a character around her, actually), and my future dolls will be too. If that character would pose sexually or would do sexy stuff with another character, I'd feel like a weirdo for posing and photographing it, but I wouldn't feel it's wrong (I just wouldn't show it to my non-doll friends because they already think the dolls are odd, haha). My characters are my brain babies, but I don't mind writing them some sexy scenes!! :P

 

@pandacorn, I feel the same way as you, taking pictures of my dolls naked will never happen because I would feel like I'm disrespecting them. And since most of them are teens and children, that thought never crossed my mind, I'm even frowning at the thought of displaying my kid dolls in sexual or naked poses.

Even if they are adults, I wouldn't do it unless I create a character who is a model then I would pose them in underwear or lingerie. And same as you, I wouldn't have a problem if a naked pose is done artistically and not like some owners of DDs who dress and pose their girls in really *trembles* disgusting poses, you can tell they do it because they're horny. >.>

 

As a person who has taken pictures of my doll sexually with no real artistic purpose, I think it's fine. It's your doll, you do what you wanna do. But then again I took the pictures of my doll as a joke and I only talk about it as a joke, I don't really look at my doll sexually. I also am one of those people who thinks their doll makes angry faces when I put him in awkward positions so I like to make my doll mad for fun.

I think it's really when people look at their dolls as sexual objects that it gets a bit too much for me. If it's artistic and obviously more than just cheap doll-porno then anything is fine. But in the case of like cheap photos and stuff, I think that's fine too just as long as people realize that a doll isn't some sexual object. Perhaps it's because I'm asexual that I don't really understand how someone can seriously use their doll to fulfill their sexual fantasies or see them as something sexual (I don't really know how to describe it).

 

i've never understood the naked pictures = objectification. that's a result of us being taught as kids that nudity = bad/ dirty/ worth hiding/ etc. just because you are naked, and photographed, does not mean you have been suddenly turned into an object, or made less human. it's often more the opposite and liberating to break free fromt he social norm.
perhaps that's part of it. taking pics of a doll naked, because it is humanoid in shape, breaks the same "taboo" of the human body being something shameful. so people find it distasteful.

all uses of "you, you're, etc" are generic

 

Well even though these are just dolls, I feel it would be quite weird and wrong to take sexual pictures of dolls that are clearly children. Naked pictures are fine, but sexual pictures is a big no no for me. What I do with my dolls is that I decide their ages, so if my doll is under aged that means no sexual pictures. If the doll is of age then I don't see anything wrong with it.

Then ofcourse someone with very childlike doll might think they are fairies etc. And the age question is not relevant. I think this is ok too as long as it is made clear that this is not a child doll but something else.

 

I think it's kind of strange. It's a doll, not a person, and I find it weird to portray them in a sexual nature. But if someone wants to do that, it's fine, as silverholly said I just won't look.

 

I would let my MSDs or smaller dollies be in photos that involve sexual manner but SDs are ok if its artistic

 

Everyone is of course free to do whatever they like with their dolls, but I would prefer not to see dolls or photographs of dolls presented in any kind of sexual manner.

The only time dolls of mine were ever used to express sexual feelings was back when I was in the throes of puberty and obviously using the dolls to sort out feelings that were new and confusing. I got over it quickly.

When I see sexy doll photos now, I can't help but wonder if the owner is in fact pubescent, or if not, whether they might have some unresolved issues about sex, or maybe just lack a human sexual outlet.

 

first, it totally depends on the context. it also depends on the viewer... someone, somewhere, is going to be offended by what they see.

i like to take (what i consider) artistic nudes of one of my 'adult' dolls, and i do think there is some sexual/sensual connotation to them. that is because i imagine her personality to be in touch with that side of herself. i don't think i would ever take an explicit sexual image, i just like the implication of it- plus i love dressing my dolls in lingerie (and i'm obsessed with fancy lingerie IRL too, yes i'm that cliche)...

on the other hand, i would never take 'sexual' photos of my more childish dolls because i don't think it's appropriate. children and dolls that appear to be children, to me, make me want to 'protect' them rather than objectify them. i am fine with 'innocent' nudity though - you know, there were naked children all over the place in historical paintings, and families often take pictures of their children when they're running around half naked or in the bath and that is in a non sexual context. so if you are equating the 'appropriacy' of such pictures to dolls, you could say that it's perfectly acceptable as long as the doll appears reasonably mature.

however, we must remember that dolls are not living things. they are not human beings. if you want to really know what i'm getting at, google "The Treachery of Images" which is the translated title of Rene Magritte's famous painting. i mean, we can make up any story we want: you could say that your little YoSD girl is actually a 100 year old vampire who never aged because she couldn't 'grow up' physically after she was turned - but you don't hear a lot of stories about chaste vampires.

so if someone photographed a childish doll in a manner interpretive as sexual, we should realize it does not equate to pedophilia despite the gray areas in the law regarding these images. if we find it offensive, we should avoid looking at that material and concentrate on being offended by things that are actually harmful to real people (esp. children) rather than a lump of shaped resin, vinyl, or clay that merely absurdly represents the idea one.

if the doll appears to be mature enough - and that, to me, is appearing around 16 or 17 years old at the least- i don't have an issue. explicit sex depictions are not something i am interested in at all, but i do like sexy/sensual pictures or ones that hint at it. basically, subtlety is key.

 

i'm in my mid-20s, have been in a monogamous sexual relationship for half a decade, and if i have psychological issues regarding it i would like to know about them - so i don't know if i agree. on the other hand, i only take nudes, i do not take explicits or like looking at them either. so maybe your statement applies to that. i used to play with my Barbies and they would "make out" a lot when i was 8 or 9, maybe photos of BJDs are just the next step up...

 

I think there's a line!Where it just becomes creepy.
But i usually don't mind it.

 

Yeah, no, I don't equate nudity with sexuality. I guess I should have used "sexual" instead of "sexy." Artistic nudity or revealing lingerie doesn't bother me.

It's dollie sex, explicit or implied, that makes me uncomfortable. My reaction is "That's sick!" I'm not sure exactly why; I'd be uncomfortable being in the same room with a pair of humans if they started making out, too, but I wouldn't get the "sick!" reaction. So maybe it's related to the Uncanny Valley thing.

 

yeah, it's pretty semantic. i get what you mean about the uncanny valley thing - i know many people, including a few guys, who do not even like looking at porn. and these are not sexually repressed people i am thinking of, it's just that for some people they don't want to see other people doing it because it's not attractive to them. you can also get that 'ick' feeling when you see people engaging in excessive PDA - i'm not going to button up my top shirt collar and be totally mortified if i see it, and i'm happy to hold my s/o's hand or even give a quick hug/kiss on the cheeck in public, but that's as far as it goes and that's as far as i like to see other people take it IRL.

so we can say the same rule basically applies to dolls since dolls often represent their owners' urges and fantasies. but, since it isn't (shouldn't) actually be hurting anyone, if you don't like it - just look away. or click "back" in your browser (if only that worked IRL!)

 

Sometimes, grownups use dolls to tell grownup stories. And one thing that grownups sometimes do in stories is have sex, or relate to each other sexually. If your doll characters participate in such stories, go for it! Of course, if these characters' relations become the Adults-Only sort of grownup, it's best to tell your story on an 18+up forum like Controversialdoll, where the audience is made up of other grownups, because there are laws to obey.

 

I've done it before as a gag, but I don't think I could represent my doll sexually solely because it is a doll. I have no problem seeing dolls in lingerie or mid-strip or posing, but to do something explicit would weird me out a bit.

 

yup, i once made a gag-comic that was overtly sexual - but i wasn't even using BJDs, i was using my anime action figures/ toys that i also collect and are completely offtopic to this forum. however, i could have made a pretty similar joke to the comic if i replaced the toys with dolls.

if the sex is used for the purpose of humor then the point becomes totally moot to me - sexual humor can be hilarious as long as it is appropriately filtered (ex, i only posted the gag comic i made on sites with NSFW tags or 18+ areas, you can't even find it on my flickr)... but i think this topic was and is about the 'serious' side of it. most people seem to be in agreement, though, about what is fine and what is not.

 

Wait, what are "most people" in agreement about, regarding what is "fine"...? This thread seems pretty evenly split between people who are comfortable looking at erotically-oriented material & those who aren't. The topic doesn't have anything to do with Serious vs. Funny sex. In the past 7 pages, we have heard from people who want no eroticism at all, people who like PG13 pinups only, people who like artistic nudes only, people who like serious loving/emotional erotica only, and people who like any trashy bit-of-fun they can find.

But it does seem like most people do agree that "it's your doll, do whatever you want with it"-- which is good, because that IS the heart of the issue.