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Sex and Nudity within the BJD Community

Oct 18, 2007

    1. "What are your thoughts on BJD photography showing scenes of a sexual nature or implying sexual content?"

      It's not something I would deliberately seek out; it's not something I would deliberately avoid unless I knew the images would involve personal trigger issues. If I saw something that did include such issues and wasn't labeled, I'd avoid looking at those images again.

      "Do you think that people who photograph their dolls having sexual intercourse is considered to be perverted or an expression of artistic form and love?"

      I don't agree with either of those entirely, because I'm not in the mind of any of those photographers. It's really the only fair answer I can give about that. What if someone wants it to seem perverse? What if their intent is for it to appear loving? Maybe they're aiming for both at once in that particular image. I think I've taken too many art history classes to freak out about nudity.

      "What about if the sexual scenes are of a form of rape or abuse?"

      I'd not personally seek these out, so it's really not my business to judge. Again, these subjects can be handled in a variety of ways, so I am disinclined to give any kind of blanket judgment on it.

      "Should people be allowed to photograph such scenes"

      Of course.

      "How do you feel when BJD's are reffered to as being "Sex Dolls" by people from outside the community?"

      This happened once. I sent them the link to the Real Dolls website, with a comment of, "Oh, no, -these- are sex dolls!" and they very quickly saw the difference and dropped the subject.

      "Do you believe it's wrong for them to think such things when there are dolls such as "Full nobility royma" avaliable?"

      I'd not heard of that particular doll until this thread, but no, I don't consider that doll to be a sex doll, either. Again, Real Dolls. And to be completely honest? I would probably own a Real Doll without too much fretting if I ever won the lottery, because I think it'd be hilarious to dress the thing up in a crazy wig and some of my (way too small for me) vintage clothing, and have her lounging around the foyer.

      "What about Unoa dolls being created by a famous hentai artist?"

      I have no issue with this. I make skin textures for 3D models that require anatomical accuracy. That means I've scanned through dozens of detail photos of genitals to do it from stock photography sites. It's definitely NOT my favorite part of the work for a laundry list of reasons -- but because of it, someone so inclined could easily reduce all of my work to "plays with naked skin all day". It's the work people know the most, but it's not the only thing I do. I see a major parallel here.

      "Mods such as the XXXL Dollfie Dream bust?"

      Sigh. I hate to be the one to break it to anyone who hasn't clued in to mother nature yet, but large breasts do not inherently equal porn in real life, either. No, really, sometimes they grow that way on their own. If I thought these sculptors were pornographers, well... *glances skyward, waits for lightning strike*

      "The fact BJD's are often anatomically correct?"

      Again, "as are people". The existence of people may be necessary for porn to exist, but that's only because we created the stuff in the first place. I don't look at people and dwell on the fact that they have various bits beneath their clothing, so it baffles me to some extent that people would do so with dolls.

      "Are all these aspects which contribute to people having a negative image about BJDs?"

      Depends on the people.

      "Is the cultural barrier something that changes peoples opinions on sexual content in doll photography?"

      I'd call that a big 'yes'.

      "With so many nude photographs of real women and men out there in the world, why should photographing inanimate objects that portray similar statue to human beings be considered wrong?"

      I don't think it should.

      "Would it be acceptable for someone to photograph a naked Barbie over a naked BJD?"

      I'm sure some people would agree with that. I don't care either way aside from the fact that I don't think Barbie looks that great out of her clothing, since she seems made more as a placeholder for pink satin from the neck down than anything else.

      "How do you handle just plain doll nudity in photographs?"

      It's there. It's often preferable to clothing I don't personally care for. It's really handy for showing off what nice blushing can look like, or technical issues.

      "What about the need to find a romantic partner for your BJD? Whether or not they choose to engage in sexual activities or pose nude for photoshoots. Do dolls really need to have a girlfriend/boyfriend?"

      Do people really need to have a girlfriend or boyfriend? A lot of people would say no. Even if we attribute all of the personality traits of a person to a doll -- why would they be any different in this regard?

      "What about same sex couples? Is it frowned upon to do such things seeing as they are "just dolls"?"

      It's never been something I've had an issue with, regarding dolls or people.
       
    2. "What are your thoughts on BJD photography showing scenes of a sexual nature or implying sexual content?"

      I dont search these things, so everyone is free to watch what they prefer... and me Im free to avoid things that I dont need.

      "Do you think that people who photograph their dolls having sexual intercourse is considered to be perverted or an expression of artistic form and love?"

      Well even if the person don't intent to be a pervert , this can attire even perverted people.. so if you do something that likes to pervert people.. then.. something pervert there must be in you without doubts.... And I would never consider a 'form of love' a perverted thing.. I just call that as "expression of artistic pornographic form." it's pornography... no more 'art'. Art is when is displey the beauty of love. Sex is not a form of art. Sex is a personal espression between 2 person, not a circus.

      "What about if the sexual scenes are of a form of rape or abuse?"

      It's wrong. But , nowdays probably most people don't care at all.. is all justificated in these 'modern' world. Nobody cares so much anymore... and we should care instead... or this planet one day will become CAOS. Totally caos. Children will rape at age of 3 if this society continue to approve everything...

      "Do you believe it's wrong for them to think such things when there are dolls such as "Full nobility royma" avaliable?"

      I don't know what you talks about it. And I don't want to know...


      "What about Unoa dolls being created by a famous hentai artist?"
      I don't care since they create till they create an body sculpt..


      "Mods such as the XXXL Dollfie Dream bust?"

      It's for perverted, of course. Nobody wants so much great bust. .and who born with a big breast there's nothing bad, because they don't choice this... but who choice a xxx big bust... for what reason someone want a big bust like this? Just because you want attire attention of others.. there's no other reason to desire a big bust... is just take attentions on you.

      "The fact BJD's are often anatomically correct?"

      It's totally ok... anatomy is a natural thing. There's nothing wrong at all if something is natural...

      "Are all these aspects which contribute to people having a negative image about BJDs?"

      I don't think. I don't have negative image on BJDs, but about certain person who don't use them in the right way. Dolls are totally ok.



      "With so many nude photographs of real women and men out there in the world, why should photographing inanimate objects that portray similar statue to human beings be considered wrong?"

      Because no matter if it's real or not, is the GESTURE that you consider. Inanimate or not, it's pornography in some cases.


      "Would it be acceptable for someone to photograph a naked Barbie over a naked BJD?"

      It's not acceptable if there's something perverted in the pics..


      "What about the need to find a romantic partner for your BJD? Whether or not they choose to engage in sexual activities or pose nude for photoshoots. Do dolls really need to have a girlfriend/boyfriend?"

      I don't care.

      "What about same sex couples? Is it frowned upon to do such things seeing as they are "just dolls"?"

      I dont care. If its about love. I don't care. But everything can be acceptable if it's with a good decorum. But display the omosexuality in front of others for perverted pics are wrong. If 2 omosexual are really in love, and they are decent people... it's ok with me then.
      All depends how you do things.. whatever thing you do.
       
    3. I think you made some excellent observations. As I wrote. I have seen photos of dolls which looked sexy to me-joints and all. However, the point where two dolls together simply look awkward comes on pretty quick when one tries to go beyond suggested intimacy into, uh...hot doll action? I suppose one would call it.
      Come to think of it, a lot of people porn lacks some of the very elements which are absent in doll porn.
      I'm wondering if the people who refer to bjds as sex dolls are confusing them with totally different types of dolls.
       
    4. Whoa there, I think women can and do have every right to enjoy porn, whether it be the same way men enjoy porn or differently *laughs*.

      Posing dolls depicting sexual intimacy is just like posing them doing any other thing--as long as it looks natural (not stiffy) and pleasing to the eye, I'm fine with it. I lean more towards the preference of implicit sexual content rather than explicit sexual content for the same reason.

      I think a large group of people do consider their dolls more in terms of their "characters", so it's also very natural to want to pose the dolls portraying romantic/sexual scenes, especially if it also happens in writing.
       
    5. Really! And to think-- it's 2008, and you DID have to remind people of that basic fact. My god, you'd think Erica Jong had never been born. :roll:
       
    6. JennyNemesis, you have said so many awesome things that I could never say even half as well. Thanks ^_^

      As for my opinion... I'm not really into doll sex photos, mainly because it just looks... fake. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, or you if that's what you want to photograph, I just don't really think it's interesting.

      I do think however, if you're going to post such pictures, it is your responsibility to follow forum rules and properly label threads so people know what they're going to see. That goes for not only DoA but even 18+ sites such as ConDoll. It is my responsibility to either not look at it, or not get offended if I do choose to look at it. You may think "situation X" is the hottest thing ever, but I may seriously not like it. I personally wouldn't think there's anything wrong with you as long as you kept it to your dolls and other artistic outlets OR with other consenting adults. As far as IRL goes, if it's between consenting adults, I am 100% ok with whatever you want to do, even if it's something I am not remotely interested in. It would be rather ridiculous of me to act like I have any right to "condone" certain types of relationships.

      Rape is completely different from sexuality though. I think that rape as far as BJD's go can be highly variable as far as the context goes. For example, I have a character that was raped. In her story it's not so much the rape itself that is important as how it affected her life from that point on. I don't feel the need to depict the rape itself (hypothetically on an adult site) because doing so would not improve the overall story. It would be "gratuitous" (and even that is not exactly the right word I'm looking for). Maybe it would be crucial for your story though. I don't think it's fair for me to judge your motives because I cannot read your mind. I would hope though that someone writing about rape would treat it very seriously and not take it lightly.

      Edited to add: Just to be clear, I don't find anything wrong with nude dolls. In fact I think it's slightly aggravating when people don't post nude pictures in the marketplace, because it makes it harder for me to decide if I'm interested in a doll. Although about 85% of my interest in any given doll is based on the head, I also care a lot about the body because I just like the aesthetics of certain bodies over others, and I can't really make that determination with fully dressed dolls. Also, outside of the marketplace, there are some really great nude doll pics I've really enjoyed, because they have a great faceups, great body blushing, and the photos are done really well. It doesn't really matter to me if they are intended to be erotic or not, because frankly I don't find dolls erotic anyways. But that's just me.
       
    7. "What are your thoughts on BJD photography showing scenes of a sexual nature or implying sexual content?"

      Personally, I think it can be really beautiful, rather than perceived perversion.
       
    8. Well.... This is an interesting question for sure!

      Personally.... I don't like sex. Or nudity. :sweat

      BUT!
      I don't mind it that much with dolls. They're just dolls.

      I think dolls having "sex" and stuff adds to their character's personality and all, but I thought sex was more of a private thing. Not like 'hay everyone we're having sexy time!'

      Eh, what ev.

      In the end, I usually just skip over threads with nudity. I can understand the 'art form' part and some dolls look very pretty in the nude, but I would much rather look at clothes and stuff.


      Eh, that's my two cents. I don't even know if I answered any of the questions. >w>;




      ((And this was the first time I heard the Unoa creator was a hentai artist.... woah... I'm not into hentai or Unoas, so that's something new that I just learned.....))
       
    9. In my humble opinion, doll nudity is fine. Doll sex is fine. Doll mods of an adult nature, are all fine.
      As long as it's kept away from PG rated sites, I have no problem with anything that people do with their dolls.
       
    10. What are your thoughts on BJD photography showing scenes of a sexual nature or implying sexual content?

      I personally find them a little silly. I don't know why. Since I was a little kid, I always felt my dolls and stuffed animals had distinct "personalities" and "feelings" like real people, but sex was never even on their radar. I feel like dolls, being literally toys and associated with children, that they should be unaware of sex and be innocent as well.

      "Do you think that people who photograph their dolls having sexual intercourse is considered to be perverted or an expression of artistic form and love?"
      Depends. If it's a cute kiss or if it's one on its knees in front of the other, if you know what i'm saying. :sweat
      Stuff like that honestly makes me think that the photographer either isn't getting any, or is a sex addict.

      "What about if the sexual scenes are of a form of rape or abuse?"
      I think those are too sensitive to be casually taken. Victims of sexual abuse are haunted by those memories and it's sick to just throw it around like it's not a big deal.

      "Do you believe it's wrong for them to think such things when there are dolls such as "Full nobility royma" avaliable?"
      I saw that doll a year ago on a friend's LJ post and i laughed so hard. All i could think was "Who would want this??" It's kinda gross and I'd be kinda wondering about anyone who had one.

      "What about Unoa dolls being created by a famous hentai artist?"
      Didn't even have a clue.

      "Mods such as the XXXL Dollfie Dream bust?"
      Big boobs are natural. Nothin' wrong with that. Pam Anderson has big fake tatas but it doesn't bother me either. The truth is big boobs are a pain in the ass IRL so let the doll enjoy it because they don't feel pain. :lol:

      "The fact BJD's are often anatomically correct?"
      That freaked me out at first. I had just ordered my first BJD when a friend told me that. (I was a very big newbie). All i could think was "He's gonna have......boy parts???" I got over it really quickly though. My brother calls it Maxime's "pant-shaper" though it is so small, you'd never know it was there. When he got his first kimono, it would fly open sometimes, so i put some shorts on him because to be honest, i still feel kinda weird about him having a yoo-hoo.

      "Are all these aspects which contribute to people having a negative image about BJDs?"

      maybe. alot of Americans tend to be "a bunch of puritanical hypocrites" according to my brother's French friend. I agree with him because they get all bothered by a doll having parts but places like Spencer's gifts with penis-shaped stuff left and right get barely any reaction. There is a differance between a BJD and a blow-up doll.

      "With so many nude photographs of real women and men out there in the world, why should photographing inanimate objects that portray similar statue to human beings be considered wrong?"

      I don't think it's wrong. I think it's silly. While BJDs are very realistic, humans don't have big knobby joints. The purpose of sexual photos is either for art or sexual pleasure. I've seen lots of beautiful ones for art, but i imagine it's hard to get off on a picture of a naked doll so it seems silly.

      "Would it be acceptable for someone to photograph a naked Barbie over a naked BJD?"

      Depends. Barbie doesn't have genitalia. BJDs do. Barbie also lacks the realism that BJDs have like nipples and stuff. So i think it isn't wrong, but I would want a little 3 year old kid to see a picture of a naked BJD.

      "What about the need to find a romantic partner for your BJD? Whether or not they choose to engage in sexual activities or pose nude for photoshoots. Do dolls really need to have a girlfriend/boyfriend?"
      My dolls are totally asexual. One of the "older" boys is well aware of sex, but is too arrogant to ever be close to another. So none of them are getting any and I like it that way.

      "What about same sex couples? Is it frowned upon to do such things seeing as they are "just dolls"?"

      While I think boy-love can be cute (hugging, kiss on cheek, holding hands), full-on make-out scenes tend to make me uncomfortable. I have no problem with homosexuality, I just don't want to see it, just like I don't want to see heterosexual couples doing it.
       
    11. My feelings on the matter, too. As long as it doesn't break the rules of the site/forum it's being displayed on, it's fine. I don't think anyone has the right to dictate what other people do or do no do with their dolls.
       
    12. Totally with joaniedark and Kiyakotari on this one.

      And I'll add, as long as people don't try to push their views and opinions off on me, I'm usually fine with anything. Just don't go against anyone's rights, and you can do what you like. I mean, as long as you're not hurting anyone, it's just dorries~ Not serious business to me.
       
    13. Its hard to know how to feel about this topic. I am a newbie with regard to the BJD scene and some of the dolls I have seen are absolutely exquisite, beautiful creations. Initially, I was a little 'thrown' that they are anatomically correct, like someone else said (sorry I cant remember your name to refer to), I am of the old style 'Sindy' and 'Barbie' generation and what you got there was only a very soft reference to the female body. I think the same as in real life, that nudity can be shown to be a beautiful thing if done correctly...scenes of rape?? mmm...again initially my thoughts were very conservative, but maybe some people are better off expressing these thoughts through the medium of the BJD rather than re-enacting something like it in real life where it could have devastating consequences obviously. If we are to criticise BJD's for being 'sexual' than we have to apply that same thing to dolls like 'Bratz' which we are giving to our children with their exaggerated figures and pouty lips. Children seem to less want to be princessess these days and more like Madonna, are dolls nowadays just refering to this change in times? And again, the doll is not just for the child anyway, and that is another label that is put on the doll fan/collector that we dont want to grow up or ' aren't you too old to be playing with that?' type of discussion. That being said, I like beautiful things to look at and images like rape scenes (when there's enough bad stuff in the world already) should be kept away from the 'general' doll fan.

      p.s. if you thought this answer was a little confusing, your right...I'm still confused!!
       
    14. What are your thoughts on BJD photography showing scenes of a sexual nature or implying sexual content?

      Some of it can be very beautiful, actually. Those who say this is "unnatural", showing dolls in a sexual fashion, are missing the point entirely. There's nothing more natural in the world. These dolls represent people, after all, and people are humans, and humans are primates, and primates are very sexual animals.

      Do you think that people who photograph their dolls having sexual intercourse is considered to be perverted or an expression of artistic form and love?

      It's not something I'm personally interested to see, but if somebody wants to recreate the entire Kama Sutra with BJDs, let them have at. (I've seen it done with wooden art-model figures before.)

      What about if the sexual scenes are of a form of rape or abuse? Should people be allowed to photograph such scenes?

      I don't want to see that in any form, but I'm not going to call the cops on somebody who takes pictures of their dolls in those situations.

      How do you feel when BJD's are reffered to as being "Sex Dolls" by people from outside the community?

      You mean after I stop laughing and pick myself up off the floor?

      Do you believe it's wrong for them to think such things when there are dolls such as "Full nobility royma" avaliable?

      If someone is actually using Royma as a "sex doll", I don't want to know about it. Let 'em have fun, but not where I can see it.

      What about Unoa dolls being created by a famous hentai artist?

      Kiyoshi Kurosawa is known for his many contributions to J-Horror (if you've seen the movie Pulse, you've seen a remake of one of his films), yet he started out making pinku eiga, the Japanese equivalent of porn films. Does that make Pulse a porn film? Of course not.

      Mods such as the XXXL Dollfie Dream bust?

      Boobs =/= porn. Nuff said.

      The fact BJD's are often anatomically correct?

      Nudity =/= porn either. Not that you could convince people of that.

      Are all these aspects which contribute to people having a negative image about BJDs?

      Actually, the biggest complaint I get from people who are down on BJDs is that they look "creepy". This could be because BJDs look more realistic than the dolls most of us grew up with. This is similar to the concept of the "uncanny valley" in robotics, a hypothesis which states that the more humanlike a robot looks, the more appealing it is, up to a point--but when it crosses a certain threshold of realism, appeal abruptly changes to revulsion. Simply put, a non-human object which appears too human trips the wrong triggers in an observer's subconscious and causes a visceral response of "OMG THAT'S SO WRONG!". Some people react more strongly to this aversion than others. Some don't feel it at all. I know someone who can't stand to be around porcelain dolls because of the realistic look of the glass inset eyes. She says she can't stand the way the dolls "stare" at her.

      Is the cultural barrier something that changes peoples opinions on sexual content in doll photography?

      Take out the word "doll" in the above sentence and you'll have your answer. Cultural differences are always going to vary the perceptions of any viewer from another.

      With so many nude photographs of real women and men out there in the world, why should photographing inanimate objects that portray similar statue to human beings be considered wrong?

      When you find out the answer, let the rest of us know. I haven't a clue, personally.

      Would it be acceptable for someone to photograph a naked Barbie over a naked BJD?

      Tell you what. The next time someone makes a negative remark about BJD nudity, point them towards all the pictures of naked Barbies that are posted on eBay. Then take delight in telling them that Barbie was actually based on a sex doll called the Bild Lilli. Lilli was a sexy blonde ponytailed ingenue who appeared in cartoons published in the German Bild newspaper; she was so popular that, as a marketing ploy, the Bild commissioned a 12-inch plastic doll for sale as an adult novelty. Despite the high cost (roughly $100 in today's money), she became insanely popular both as a gag gift for bachelors and (ironically) as a child's toy. Ruth Handler purchased several of the dolls for her daughter Barbara on a trip to Europe and eventually created a copy of the doll for the American toy market. She named the Lilli clone after her daughter...Barbie.

      One hundred percent true. Look it up.

      How do you handle just plain doll nudity in photographs?

      "Oh, look, it's nekkid plastic. Yey."

      What about the need to find a romantic partner for your BJD? Whether or not they choose to engage in sexual activities or pose nude for photoshoots. Do dolls really need to have a girlfriend/boyfriend?

      Well, I don't think the dolls need them...

      What about same sex couples? Is it frowned upon to do such things seeing as they are "just dolls"?

      Same-sex couples are certainly frowned upon, but if you see nothing wrong with it in the human world, you shouldn't be bothered by it where dolls are concerned.
       
    15. Hmm this is rather interesting , ill try my best to answer.

      What are your thoughts on BJD photography showing scenes of a sexual nature or implying sexual content?
      I don't particularly have a problem with it, I suppose if its really inappropriate photos should be labeled or placed in a area where underage members couldn't see them but, if your an adult I don't see any problem.


      Do you think that people who photograph their dolls having sexual intercourse is considered to be perverted or an expression of artistic form and love?

      I don't consider sex to be "perverted" or "wrong" so no, it really depends on the photo shoot I suppose , with what your portraying when your dolls would be having sex, could be love, could be lust, or even something darker its all up to the creator I suppose.

      What about if the sexual scenes are of a form of rape or abuse? Should people be allowed to photograph such scenes?

      It doesn't involve real people so I don't really care, unless you have a real photo shoot of some one being abused and exploited against there will, then I have a problem


      How do you feel when BJD's are reffered to as being "Sex Dolls" by people from outside the community?

      lol... Then they must not know much about the random at all, I'm not really offended its hilarious if anything, I don't even know how you'd physically manage to have sex with a bjd O_O;

      Do you believe it's wrong for them to think such things when there are dolls such as "Full nobility royma" available?

      uhh I'm not sure what exactly that is and I don't think I want to know, O_O; people can do whatever they want with there dolls and if they do make a sex doll as long as the people buying it are of age then I don't really care.

      What about Unoa dolls being created by a famous hentai artist?
      I don't really care O_o; hentai is fictional anyway.

      Mods such as the XXXL Dollfie Dream bust?
      lol saw that, cant say I'd want it for my dolls, but i guess if you want the ur..'softness" for you're dolls be my guest.

      The fact BJD's are often anatomically correct?
      nudity doesn't always have to equal sex, most dolls ive seen are pretty tastefully done and I have no problem with that.

      Are all these aspects which contribute to people having a negative image about BJDs?
      I don't think most people would know about these things unless they were in the fandom, most people who aren't that familiar with bjd's think of them just as those "creepy expensive dolls"

      Is the cultural barrier something that changes peoples opinions on sexual content in doll photography?

      i do know some Asian cultures don't sexualise nudity as much, and don't have a "omg its porn" reaction as much when ti comes to nudity. i really don't understand American some times , how people want watch super violent movies and thats fine but a little nudity or a tasteful sex scene becomes a whole " oh noez!! we have to protect the childrenz!!!11" -_-

      With so many nude photographs of real women and men out there in the world, why should photographing inanimate objects that portray similar statue to human beings be considered wrong?

      It shouldn't be, but I suppose there's that uncanny valley that creeps people out about seeing nudity and sexuality of things that look human but aren't.

      Would it be acceptable for someone to photograph a naked Barbie over a naked BJD?
      I suppose some people might be more against the naked barbie since barbies are typically known for being children's toys but then again they arn't anatomically correct. either way I don't have a problem with seeing any naked dolls O_o;

      How do you handle just plain doll nudity in photographs?
      most pictures i see are nice and classy and beautifle, so i like them

      What about the need to find a romantic partner for your BJD? Whether or not they choose to engage in sexual activities or pose nude for photo shoots. Do dolls really need to have a girlfriend/boyfriend?
      I suppose my doll would look good posing with another, I guess weather they had a romantic or more platonic relationships and how it would be portrayed would be up to me. but I'm not biting at the chops to immediately get my boy a little some one to keep him warm at night O_o;

      What about same sex couples? Is it frowned upon to do such things seeing as they are "just dolls"?

      *sigh* I find a gay kiss or gay sex about as offensive as strait sex or strait kissing, as in not at all, i don't really consider the gay stuff to be worse or more perverted / disgusting, love is love, just wish every one else felt that way VV;;
       
    16. I think that sex is one of the most beautiful and natural part parts of a human life and I am a big advocate for the destruction of censorship, but given that I am usually disturbed by BJD sexualization. On a personal level I relate it to pedophilia, even though most of the dolls portrayed in these sexual acts are usually adults or older teens. Despite myself I think of them as a child like figure.. Something that is innocent, something that is considered a child's play thing, not a sex object. It just sort of churns my stomach when I see a bjd in bondage holding a whip, just as it would if I saw a kid doing the same thing. Of course as I mentioned before this is a personal opinion and I do not feel that I am completely in the right, just that I feel that this is a defiant gray area that I don't completely feel comfortable with. Not to mention I am completely crazy and protective of everything.

      I guess what I am trying to get at is, I feel that you have every right to do what you want as long as you are not hurting anyone or anything (living). It just sometimes some of those things people do ..bother me...

      just like slide shows on youtube.
       
    17. All very well put. God damn it I wish I could articulate things better. lol.
       
    18. re: using dolls as characters

      if they're intended as characters, it's perfectly reasonable to have them in relationships *shrug*
      I personally like the term 'articulate sculpture' :)
       
    19. I will admit to being taken aback at first since the very first non store pictures of BJD were what you would consider to be erotic and I did think to myself "what the..." while I
      could appreciate the composition and style I did think to myself "but it's a doll.." as I hunted down more (since I cannot bear to not have a balanced viewpoint) I saw this as a valid perspective. Though I honestly do not understand the degradation angle and have no cause to want to.

      As for dolls performing sexual acts together well most of us did something like that with our dolls as children we created scenarios and worlds and sex is a part of that even the most pure and innocent of children is aware of sex (if not the mechanics of it) and will create their own "love scenes"

      Being called "sex dolls": hahahaha! I can only think "you sad moron" to those who would think that!
      Art is an expression of the soul, be it with people animals landscapes etc and there will always will be small people who want to crush others souls with their poisonous views

      Romantic partners? well that's your choice! same sex? more than couples? well if I do not feel comfortable judging you for your personal lives why on earth would I even consider you and your dolls (though the ones who do the paedophile things just EWW) sorry that was harsh but if I cannot be honest what is the point?

      as far as different cultures having different viewpoints I hate to say it but that could be true up to a point, I think we have way more in common perspective wise.
       
    20. I don't think it's necessarily perverted to photograph dolls in erotic scenarios. Whether the photography is meant to titillate or to just be artistic representation is all up to the photographer, and how they take the pictures themselves. I don't think it should be censored, just labeled correctly.

      I really don't care if people outside of this hobby refer to BJD as sex dolls or not, their opinion isn't generally one that I place any level of importance on. I know what BJD are to me - beautiful dolls with which I can glut my fashion desires on, bwaha.

      I definitely have a need to find a romantic partner for my BJD, this is why my friend and I are each buying a doll. They don't need to have a partner, but I want them to, for reasons I hadn't really thought of, it just feels right. I don't think it's particularly frowned upon for them to have same sex partnerships since they are only dolls, because I don't really think it's a bad thing to have same sex partnerships between humans either.

      Censorship feels weird to me -- I think anything is acceptable as long as appropriate labels are placed on there, much like a bar that hangs a sign outside saying "minors who enter will be prosecuted". If you're a minor, and you go someplace you aren't and you know you shouldn't be there because there is a sign outside, well you should damn well be held responsible for your actions because you were informed.