Sex and Nudity within the BJD Community

They're dollies, hunks of expensive plastic. Some of us like to have our stories be more adult oriented because some of us aren't afraid of sex or our sexualities.

 

...and some of us don't, and that's okay too. Some of us revel in the tiny dolls and their sweet innocence. This is the all-inclusive hobby.

 

Well said, shasta. I have no issues with sex or sexuality, but it's just never been something that I've associated with dolls, BJD or off-topic ones. But for anyone who wants to make sexuality part of their enjoyment of the hobby, more power to them.

 

And just like real sex, it only looks like teddy-bear porn if you're doing it wrong.

 

(i missed the reply before XP)
yeah well, it's always fun to pose more than a doll in.... interesting positions... XD
plus, if during a story a doll gets "pregnant", we have an excuse to buy a tiny XD

 

!! Exactly...*woot for tinies* as for interesting positions..I'm going to have to do some hardcore sueding on my boys.

 

Agreed, here.

The best sensual doll photos I've seen were well-composed, taken of beautiful dolls, and didn't require text.

The worst I've seen were flashed out naked dolls stacked awkwardly on each other with 70's porno dialogue.

I prefer photography that shows that people know how it works, but doesn't give too much insight into their own sexual habits. I am mostly uncomfortable with doll sexuality when I feel like I have learned too much about the poster... it sort of feels like when someone asks you to read a piece of their writing and you suddenly realize it's a total Mary Sue. And you wonder why exactly they asked you to read it. Awkwaaaaard.

 

For me photos of dolls naked isn't a big deal. First off it's just a doll and second off we are all naked and know what a naked person looks like. And as some people already said, with all the nudity on tv and the internet is it really that big of a deal for 13 ups to see?
Sex is a part of life I don't see why it shouldn't be portrayed with BJD's. I don't really think it's that weird when people do so. Mostly because most of these dolls are potraying characters and if a dolls character is more sexual than another why wouldn't you show that? This being said BJD's are also in no way close to being sex dolls.

 

Very interesting topic, thank you! I looked at Royma and to be honest, my first thought was "Why, that child is too young to have sex!" LOL!
The dolls belong to us, and as everyone has said, we can do as we like. Nudity doesn't bother me, as I am a classically trained portraitist and part of my training was so many years of drawing nudes that they mean no more to me than a still life with eggplants and tomatoes, or something...So, when I bought Dollmore Ha Yarn Cho, I was so intrigued with her beautiful proportions and her true poseability that I took lots of photos of her undressed, and enjoyed her very much. She was a most patient model.
I became interested in boy dolls after her, and so got her a boyfriend, Elfdoll Red Vampire...took many photos of them together, with clothes on, in affectionate poses.
On the Dollmore site, some of the model boys are posed with the model girls nude, draped in spangles and tulle-it's quite lovely and somehow endearing, and done in lovely taste.
Also just was a "guest" at a doll wedding, months in the planning, and the grooms, for this was same sex marriage, were so handsome, and the guests were so happy for them- the wedding was beautiful, and attended by many luminaries in the BJD world and the doll world. What matters is that you enjoy the dolls, share the dolls, and don't harm anyone, including your dolls and yourselves.

 

· How do you feel when BJD's are referred to as being "Sex Dolls" by people from outside the community? Are all these aspects which contribute to people having a negative image about BJDs?

I am annoyed by people who call BJD "sex dolls" inside or outside the BJD community. It is my belife that lack of knowledge on the dolls (particularly to the actual size of the dolls) and the realism of some dolls leads ignorance individuals to make connections between the dolls and sex.

 

I think people see doll nudity or sex in the wrong light: they look like people, and very beautiful people at that. It doesn't seem any different to CGI or drawings of an illicit nature. But people see at as a super-odd-mentally-ill level of weird. On the other hand I am plain weird, so I might be looking from the wrong side of the fence. I think people with no imagination see things in a very literal way.

 

That's funny. Real sex probably looks pretty adorable too, if you're just an observer. We are kind of an adorable species, for all our glaring and dangerous imperfections.

 

Everything is a sexual object to a sexual animal. We will always filter our reality through out sexuality. Let's do it with our eyes open.

 

People calling BJD/ABJD/etc Sex-dolls is kinda shallow..

Photoshoots involving sexual activity however, I have no problem with, I just wouldn't do it myself because my Luna's body is kinda unrealistic and unblushed :P
(Besides she hasn't got a partner.)

 

Well, define "adorable" ^_^ Just think of how weird we'd look to a sentient non-human species.
Like hugging.
"What are they doing now? Are they going to mate?"
"No, I think they are just... holding each other in their arms."
"But it is a mating ritual."
"No, they're just... standing there."
:: one of the aliens, wearing a monocle, has it pop out of its eye ::
"Good gracious."

Personally, it's all about emotion for me. There are some kinds of intimacy that just can't be shown half as well in any other kind of scene, though-- it's only the explicitness that varies at the author or photographer's discretion. Whether it's a cute proposal scene or a spangle-draped roll in the hay...

 

Well, no one told anyone to go into those threads. Besides, if it's dolls...you can be thankful they are not completely body-correct so obviously people won't take it as extreme porn. But if it's actual people then that's a different thing.

 

Sexy pics personally don't do anything for me. They don't usually offend me, but I do get tired of seeing them. I really enjoy seeing cute (clothed) couples and informative comparisons. But don't care to see them being nekkidly intimate, or like a closeup of them kissing--it gets old IMHO. And seeing so much of it at flickr and such makes folks think they're sex toys(?)

I am fine with nudity so long as it tastefully shows off the sculpt with nice lighting, but I think dolls in general look 100x better with an awesome outfit to show off. I am sure some folks are lacking outfits in many cases, but I am much more interested to see how they look with clothes over nekkidness (e.g., Euclase ;-).

 

I'm just going to post a quote here from Marina Bychkova (of http://enchanteddoll.com) from an interview she did with PixelSurgeon.com. She sums it up neatly.

 

· What are your thoughts on BJD photography showing scenes of a sexual nature or implying sexual content?

Sometimes looking at them makes me uncomfortable, but that's really just me. I don't believe that people should be made to stop, that's for sure. I mean... I base my dolls off of characters from my own stories. A lot of people do. So if it's part of their character story, then that's all there is to it. If it makes you uncomfortable, don't look at it. That's what I do.


Do you think that people who photograph their dolls having sexual intercourse is considered to be perverted or an expression of artistic form and love?

That all depends, really, on how it's displayed or why it's displayed. If it's displayed in an artistic manner or is part of a storyline then it's fine. If they're doing it in a rude or pornographic manner, or in a manner that is in no way related to a character storyline and is just there to be there, then that might be pushing it a little.

What about if the sexual scenes are of a form of rape or abuse? Should people be allowed to photograph such scenes (photographs of this content are not allowed on DOA)?

I refer back to my character storyline thing. If it's part of a character storyline, I can understand it. That doesn't mean I'm going to look at it, for it would still make me uncomfortable, but I could see why someone would feel that they shouldn't cut out scenes in their own story. Things like that just make me uncomfortable, so I would avoid them heavily.

· How do you feel when BJD's are referred to as being "Sex Dolls" by people from outside the community? Do you believe it's wrong for them to think such things when there are dolls such as "Full nobility royma" avaliable? What about Unoa dolls being created by a famous hentai artist? Mods such as the XXXL Dollfie Dream bust? The fact BJD's are often anatomically correct? Are all these aspects which contribute to people having a negative image about BJDs?

I don't like it when BJDs are called 'Sex Dolls'. Sex Dolls exist. BJDs are not Sex Dolls. It bothers me in the same way someone calling a BJD a Barbie would. A BJD is just NOT a Sex Doll.


· What about the differences in culture between doll owners. Whilst one person may have come from a society where nudity and sex are considered to be beautifull things, another may have come from a society where such subjects are considered unacceptable. Is the cultural barrier something that changes peoples opinions on sexual content in doll photography?

Yes. Cultural barriers effect pretty much everything. And not just from country to country either, but family to family. Every family raises their children with different views on things, including nudity and sexuality. That changes a lot with how people see things in any case, not just in the case of dolls.


· With so many nude photographs of real women and men out there in the world, why should photographing inanimate objects that portray similar statue to human beings be considered wrong? Would it be acceptable for someone to photograph a naked Barbie over a naked BJD? How do you handle just plain doll nudity in photographs?

I think artistic nudity is the same whether it be doll or human. If you can look at a picture of a naked woman and honestly just think that the picture is beautiful and the woman is beautiful, then the same should go for a doll. I love artistic nudes because I think that human shape and human skin is just beautiful, thus I think that pictures using doll nudity can also be beautiful. If you're not offended by human nudity, I don't see why you'd be offended by doll nudity.

· What about the need to find a romantic partner for your BJD? Whether or not they choose to engage in sexual activities or pose nude for photoshoots. Do dolls really need to have a girlfriend/boyfriend? What about same sex couples? Is it frowned upon to do such things seeing as they are "just dolls"?

In the future, I don't see any of my dolls really having a boy/girl friend in the romantic sense, but that's just because it's not in their characters. I don't see anything wrong with dolls having boy/girl friends. And I'm also not bothered by the same sex couples (even though the boy/boy seems to overcome the girl/girl by, well, a lot). I think a lot of couples are cute, even. It's great for storyline purposes, or even getting to know other doll owners through your doll's interactions. Then again, I also Role Played (D&D and the like) long before I found BJDs, so I don't think that's wrong to get into a character and act out their story and their personality. I just think it's a great way to develop a character.


So I guess long answer short is I don't much have a problem with it. If it makes me feel uncomfortable, I avoid it. I also tend to understand more if such acts further a character's development or storyline, due to my history of playing Role Playing Games and writing stories.

 

Hmm, a gentle refute - just because some people consider sexuality private doesn't mean they are "afraid" of it. I have raised 3 kids and have never had a problem discussing anything with them and I have a happy long lasting marriage, thanks very much.

The fact that a person considers sexuality important, special, and worth respecting does not mean they are afraid of it. Little paradigm shift needed there. Conversely, talk to any psychologist - many who jump headlong into sexuality are actually quite afraid of actual intimacy...complex isn't it?