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Smoke in your house with bjd?

Jan 2, 2005

    1. Candles will leave a soot or grey carbon layer on things over time, but the biggest...uh, production of that appears to be during the putting out of the candle, especially when blowing it out. If you can put out your candle with a candle extinguisher (has an upside-down cup like thing that goes over the flame and snuffs it) and hold it in place for several seconds until the soot settles on the inside of the metal cup (or right around the candle base) you might lessen the amount. Keeping the dolls a good distance away from your candles is a good idea anyway (unless a photoshoot demands that kind of lighting. Just remove the dolls before snuffing.)

      Not sure about incense smoke. Going for the lighter, less-smoky Japanese blends like Star (comes in various aromas) could help, rather than the heavily compounded Indian sticks. Not sure about burning sage. It is very smokey, but I haven't noticed any residue in the areas I've burnt it. (It also burns very hot even in the extinguished-flame stage, so again, take precautions with dolls and other flammables.)

      Or you could try aromatic oils and a heat diffuser (or heated-water diffuser) for fragrance minus smoke.

      Cigarette smoke is the worst because it's produces a very adhesive, yellowish coating. I've attended seminars at conventions showing the layer that can be laid down over artwork, and have my mother's own bedroom as an example to how it coats everything, IMO, rather quickly (in under a year).
       
    2. Incense is something people may also be very sensitive to. It is designed to have a strong odor, and it really can linger.

      Smoke issues tend to be a matter of dingy residue + lingering odor, so things that produce one, the other, or both are probably good to keep in mind when dealing with collectibles, regardless of what they actually are (smoke, incense, candles, mold, humidity in the area that makes dust stick more, heavy cooking smells nearby -- can be a lot of things). :)
       
    3. It depends what you do with it. If you decide to smoke incense like you smoke ciggerettes, it'll cause damage to your insides like a normal ciggerette.
      All smoke contains carcinergens, but different types of smoke have different amounts. As far as I know, repeated doses of second hand smoke from your smoked kipper probably won't give you cancer like ciggerette smoke can.

      As dolls don't have 'skin' (and the resin shouldn't be that porous) the smoke from candles and incense, while minimal, will only sit upon the resin as a thin layer. Wigs and clothes can get scented by smoke/perfume easily though, and heavy smoke can be harder to remove without washing.
       
    4. Oh wow, I'm glad I asked about that, then!
      Thanks for those suggestions, hobbywhelmed; I'll look into them. They sound really useful. =D
       
    5. Any smoke is bad, not just cigarettes. If you burn, say, incense or a candle, you are putting tiny particles of whatever it (and the candle wick) is made of into the air, and it will coat everything around it. If you're going to do something like that in your room, I would suggest maybe putting the dolls somewhere else during that period of time, because it might have a chemical reaction with the resin, and why take the chance, right? :)
       
    6. I used to burn candles and many, if not most, of them gave off pretty dirty smoke. "How dirty" depended on what the candle was made out of, but all of them gave off some residue to some degree or other. I don't think it necessarily all came from just blowing out the candle either because I used an antique candle snuffer to put them out, yet still had residue issues. I had some pictures hanging near where they burned, and I would have to clean the picture glass, and sometimes the table surface around the candle, because residue would build up from the smoke. I don't think you should put BJDs around anything that's burning and making smoke or odors. Even if it doesn't cause damage you'll end up having to clean your BJD and why make work for yourself?
       
    7. And don't forget fireplaces. Anyone who's had a fireplace can tell you that you can get a "smoky" smell and some sooting in the room where the fireplace is.

      I find not only smoke from smokers a problem but also the use of heavy potpourri or air scent sprays. And I hate receiving packages with fabric softner sheets in them...yechh!
       
    8. Candles can leave damage over time to walls nearby, especially brands like Yankee, which are filled with fragrance oils. The best way to protect your stuff, are the covers that go over candles (thinksomething like this:
      http://www.yankeecandle.com/cgi-bin/ycbvp/product_detail.jsp?oid=2959584) it stops drafts and other things that contribute to soot going out in the air and also increases the temp inside the candle.

      Dipped incense (the cheap stuff you buy for like, 10 cents a stick) leaves a LOT of oil residue on things, I had a jar that I burned things in for a little while and was horrified by how much oil was on it in little time!
       
    9. I am very careful with stuff like that...I waited until the Station Fire was well out of range of Los Angeles before I took any outdoor pictures of Zetto. Since the Station Fire was only recently 100% contained this went on for quite some time and was very frustrating. The pix I took at Getty Center were after waiting two weeks for the worst of the fire to settle down.

      This is fire season here in SoCal. It is likely there may be other fires that pop up, and the danger will only lift when the rainy season starts again. That could be November or December, that could be not at all when you consider how dry things were last Winter. And yeah, I don't smoke, nor do I burn incense or candles. There is enough problems with our air for other reasons. (pollution)
       
    10. While all smoke will leave ickies on your resin friends, good regular cleanings will do wonders to keep them looking great and in great condition without having you back off on candle burning or whatever around them.

      I smoke (not inside, but sometimes around my own dollies while doing outside meets or photoshoots), and it's probably the worst for "colour damage", just like on everything else. But my WS girl is still sparkling white BECAUSE I clean my crew often. It also helps keep them from getting scent saturated from any smelly candles or anything else smelly in your house (from perfume to fabrric softner smell off of your own clothes)
       
    11. All Smoke contains Carbon and other chemicals such as hydrogen cyanide that can be harmful, candles burn with a fairly clean flame that is not harmful to us. However, candles are made of wax the wax melts and evaporates as the candle burns otherwise the candle would only burn a little bit before it met the wax and could burn no longer, that wax also contains the scent oils mentioned in prior posts. Candle burning over time can cause a buildup of these byproducts on anything (such as when a glass votive gets that charred black coating, its not the glass burning.) for this I would suggest the same as i would for a number of other things

      All things in moderation.

      Cigarette smoke by nature is a much "dirtier" burn than a candle so it will cause a buildup faster, however Any burning materials, and therefore any smoke will cause a buildup of odors and residues over time, but the will vary based on what you are burning, I've left a burning candle on my dolls shelf while i was cleaning my desk, and all my resins are fine, I would not however suggest taking them out to the camp fire with you, as wood burning smoke, and other debris that get thrown into campfires will give off more of the toxic gases released in the burning process.
      (I'm a Fire Science Student, and a Firefighter so I may have gotten carried away)
       
    12. A little tip - a candle won't smoke much if you keep the wicks trimmed to about 5mm (1/4 inch). I love my scented candles but I keep my dolls a good distance away from them - I have no idea what kind of chemical bases are used to make the perfumes in them and I wouldn't want to coat them in something potentially resin-eating or discolouring.
       
    13. Oh my gosh, I'm freaking out. This weekend I'm moving to my new apartment and I'm sharing it with my older sister. Everything would be fine, except that she smokes. @___@ Now I'm torn between taking or leaving my dolls behind.
      Anybody else have this problem? How would you remedy this?!?!
       
    14. Ask her to smoke outside? Better for everyone involved, and a reasonable request for a non-smoker living with a smoker to make. If she refuses, maybe at least ask her to smoke only in her own room? You could see how it goes for a while with that arrangement, leaving the dolls at home, and then see if anything removed from your room to a "clean air" area smells of smoke (I'd ask another nonsmoker to test this, you don't smell cigerette smoke if you live with it for a while). Then you'll know if your dolls will be safe :)
       
    15. Is it HER apartment or are you both moving into a new place? If it's her apartment you might ask if she would please consider smoking outside, but I would be leery of making it a demand as you are the newcomer. It's rude. Keeping them in your room won't eliminate the smoke smell, but it should make it a bit better.
       
    16. It's all smoke, in case anyone is wondering. In the US, there were many lawsuits filed a few years ago where urethane padding under carpets had yellowed due to the fumes from wood burning stoves. The yellow in the pad migrated up into the overlying carpets, discoloring them. So now many carpet manufacturers offer guarantees against the pad yellowing-- in states where people don't often heat with woodstoves. (cynical much?)
       
    17. Will you own it with your sister or rent it? I know that some landlords will have a clause of no smoking indoors... why not ask her what she normally does and work from there?
       
    18. Yes, but not where my BJD (Or any resin part) are. To keep them well covered some few times also works for me. Otherwise they would get dirty, yellowed and smoke smell on them and their stuff. Everytime I take them out to a room where there was smoke of any kind (Cigarettes,cooking,...), I get sure before there is no smoke left.
       
    19. Oh goodness, yet another reason for me to hold off on purchasing my first BJD. I'm just batting a thousand today. My father started smoking again recently, and he can't smoke in his bedroom - my mother gets headaches. So he travels the house, smoking everywhere. Ugh. I'm glad I stumbled upon this thread.
       
    20. to clear the air, We're both paying half of the rent. Also, the landlord said there wasn't any rules against smoking in the apartments, but there is a rule against smoking IN THE HALLWAYS. There isn't a patio or a door that goes directly outside from the apartment (so she'd have to go down the hall and up a flight of stairs to have her cig). These two things keep her in the apartment.
      It's been a month now (she promised to smoke only in her room) but her and her boyfriend have been smoking anywhere they want D: I tried keeping my bedroom door closed but with the heat i nearly suffocated. I feel horrible because they're sitting in my closet and I never take them out ;-;