Smoke in your house with bjd?

Another reason why I bring this whole deal up is because I've been wanting to go to a meet up but I'm afraid the "Elite" will make fun of my dolls if they smell bad. :/ sounds lame, but its happened to me before. We had an American Girl Doll tea party in Middle school once and everyone picked on me and my doll because she "smelled funny" and "I was a bad 'mom' that didn't take care of her doll" Seriously, i'm not making this up

 

Honestly, dolls aside, she should smoke outside. It's a health concern and you have every right to insist she smoke outside. The second hand smoke directly effects you, it's not like alcohol where you can sit next to her while she drinks and have a choice about what goes into your body. Her right to smoke doesn't negate your right to breathe clean air. I'm an ex-smoker, and in my personal experience no matter how much of a pain in the butt it is, if you're asked to smoke outside you suck it up and do it.

 

I am also really concerned about smoke seeing as I live in a smoking(?) household. I am probably going to be selling a few outfits I have but I am concerned about the smoke. Granted, I only live in a smoking household a few months out of the year (I bring my dollies to my dorm the rest of the time) and my doll is kept locked in my room in her zipper bag and her box when I am not playing with her. But I am unsure whether to list it as from a smoking home or not... I have smoke allergies so when there is smoke on something and I am at school I can smell it INCREDIBLY well (and I smell no such thing on my dolls), but at the same time I am worried about the "elitist" people (because I have grown up being made fun of time and time again for smelling funny so I can sympathize. There was even a rumor in 5th grade going around that I was a drug addict :/) turning away immediately from the sale. I am wondering if it would be good measure to not list whether it is smoking or non, but let the potential buyer know the circumstances in full detail in the PM (regardless of whether they ask or not)? It probably won't make that much of a difference, but I feel like when people read the labels of "smoking" and "non-smoking" they jump to extremes, when really mine is only a chance of smoke ^ ^;

So any suggestions? Would it be okay for me to not list it but be honest about it in PMs? I am just concerned about people not believing me (which has also been an issue). Back when my parents were really bad addicts (they are getting better) people used to ask why I smelled like smoke and when I'd tell them, they wouldn't believe me. I had teachers sending me to counselors, trying to counsel me themselves, sending me to the doctor, all when I didn't do anything!!

 

I would just be honest and list that you do live in a smoking household and that you try to keep the items away from the smoke. I am not a smoker myself and I do not care whether or not an item comes from a smoking household. I have bought clothing and even a doll from buyers who have smoked but after a while the smell goes away and there are other ways of getting rid of the smell such as perfumes and washing.

 

Thanks a bunch for your input! I know the methods to remedy the smell and everything airs out at school naturally anyway (though I am sensitive to it so i always use the other methods even while at school) but I just can't help feeling bad if my items were to arrive at someone else's house with more than just a trace of smoke, haha.

 

Not a BJD owner yet myself, but having lived with a smoking mother for several years before she quit, I've learned that it stains everything horribly. Walls, clothes, anything. And it just smells gross. So that I can only imagine what smoking would do to a bjd with creamy or albino white skin, let alone the clothes, hair, and everything else. o.o

 

Just doing a partial quote there...

IMO, not wanting to buy from a smoking home does not make someone an elitist. There may be medical reasons. To me, depending on how bad it is, listing as non-smoking when it has been around smoke, even just a little, could result in negative feedback and/or asking for a refund, simply because the item was not accurately described. As a child, I was playing outside with my grandpa smoking a good 15 feet away from me and went into an asthma attack so bad I was rushed to the ER and almost died. I don't think it makes me an "elitist" just because I know I can have a severe reaction to even minor smoke and want to avoid it. It's like foods having to list that nuts may be used in the same factory, even if they are not an ingredient because of people with severe peanut allergies. That doesn't stop everyone from buying things, but it does prevent a huge issue if someone severely allergic buys it.

Also, as far as effects on dolls....someone had my doll for a month and had him around smoke. When I got him back, he was several shades yellower than when he left me. Luckily, most of the damage was to his sealer, not the resin, so after totally wiping him, including his faceup, he was about back to where he was when I let him go. His clothing had to be handwashed twice then machine washed, then aired out. Some of it had to be thrown away. I had to wash his wig and set it outside. The box his clothes were in had to sit outside and air out for months. the person that had him never noticed the smell. She was used to it.

It's really an opinion as to HOW bad it is. Some people think one week in it will ruin the doll,others will be fine with one that has been "living" in it for years. It's not an elitist thing, just a deal breaker for some, preference or health reasons. But honesty is the best way to go. Better safe than sorry.

 

So then, what about smoke that isn't from tobacco? Like, I'm into glass crafting and the way I make peices is with a soldering iron. (that's how you "glue" them together) Sometimes the flux makes a smoke when touched by the iron. Not that I'd keep the doll in the same room as the workshop but for future reference would this smoke be something to be worried about?

 

Definitly talk to her about it. You have every right to live in that apartment, so unless she offers to pay your part of the rent, she should respect your wishes that you want the public areas (aka living room/kitchen/hallways) smoke free. Not even just for dolls, but for your health as well as any friends' health who come over.

Even though I'm a smoker, I prefer smoking outdoors as it does smell bad. And I always smoke outside when I live with another person, as it's rude to make them smell the grossness of my ciggs when sitting watching tv.

Hear hear!

If it happens as regularly and as long as a cigerette being smoked, then yes, it should be worried about (I'd worry about why it was happening so much with soldering first ) But if it's like, 3 times a split second a day, that's nothing too bad. If it bothers you a lot though, definitely mention it in sales posts.

 

Just to clear the air I was not calling all people who choose not to buy from smoking homes elitist since if you check back on what I wrote, I have smoke allergies as well. I am understanding of that fact, but people who automatically assume I that the things I have aren't taken care of are the ones who leave a bad taste in my mouth because I've had to deal with false accusations for my whole life. THOSE are the people I consider elitist, not anyone else

And yeah I wasn't going to lie about it (I can't even bring myself to lie I'd feel too terrible DX) rather than just discuss it in a more private manner.

 

My step-dad smokes, but he always goes out to the garage to do it. He's not allowed the smoke in the house because of the smell, the discoloration, and because I'm allergic to cigarette smoke.

However, one time a friend of mine gave me a small plastic bin of doll stuff she didn't want anymore. When I opened it, it reeked of cigarette smoke. When I got it home, I had to soak everything in soapy water and let it dry. Some of the things still smelled like smoke, so I had to wash them multiple times, but eventually the smell went away.

 

Smoking ANYWHERE is terrible.

*Gets off people's toes*

With that said, I wouldn't smoke around anything of value, when I did there was no smoking in the house... nice things are kept in the house, smoking can go outside because if something reaks of smoke the profit goes down if you ever decide to re-sell it. That and I believe it would build-up on the resin over time.

 

I wouldn't buy from a smoker due to asthma reasons. Also, I think the smell is terrible. If you are sharing a living space with someone and are paying for half of everything, I think that you have the right to ask for them to smoke outside. It would only be fair for them to do so especially if you cannot enjoy your possessions.

 

@adhara- Thank you! Yeah it's only a little at a time but I thought I'd just be safe and ask.

 

I am very sensitive to smoke and don't buy items that come from a smoking household. I would expect anybody selling would be honest about whether their home was smoking or non-smoking.

I had somebody sell me a doll and some outfits and before I even opened the outer shipping box I knew it was from a smoking household. When I asked her about it, she said she had no idea everything smelled so much, that her husband only smoked in the living room and she kept her dolls in a glass case with the doors to the case closed.

I believed her, but the case and point is, if you are around smoke all the time, you get used to it, you don't smell it anymore, and somebody who is not around smoke WILL smell it.

It de-values the items you wish to sell, too. Let's say there is a dollheart outfit I really want from a smoking household. Not only am I not going to pay top dollar for that, when I get it, I have to either launder it, have it dry-cleaned, hang it by the windows for 3 months until it doesn't smell anymore, and worry about if it had white parts being yellowed. That is all extra effort on my part that chips away at the monetary value of the item.

 

Heh, I'm allergic to tobacco smoke too, it gives me cancer. (Half-jk)
Speaking of immediate effects, it does give me problems breathing properly, as I have an extremely acute sense of smell.
I'd buy resin from a household with smoke in it, because getting the smoke out of resin with a scrub and a soak in something is easier than say getting it out of a wig or clothing, where the residue will stick and cling between porous fibers.
I will not buy clothes or wigs from households that include smokers. Too much work to deal with it.

 

i hope this is not undesirable, i really want to know, if there are some smoking bjd owners.
this is not a thread for younger kids i think, so i don't know if i can add a age restriction here.
feel free to move or delete this if it's not allowed.

what are you doing to get your dolls smoke free?

smoke in another room? or what are you doing if you haven't a own apartment or house, and only one room for yourelf?

if you have a nice evening with your friends or partner and no other place for your dolls,
and everybody is a smoker, u drink something and don't want to get out everytime to smoke.
somone may uses a shisha or (i don't know a other word for that, a waterpipe?) for smokin, you want to play or watch something with your friends while doing this... you know.

do you have a babysitter for such times? or something else?
what are you doing to get your dolls "clean"

i think no one wants to yellowing his/her dolls intentionally, so i want to know^^

 

I used to smoke but gave up 4 months ago, but when I did smoke I used to go out into the garden...I had had enough of the house being yellow and having to clean everything, so imagine the damage it will be doing to resin dolls. I would keep them away from cigarette smoke at all costs , they are so expensive and you wouldn't be able to sell them if they were damaged from smoke. I also keep my dolls in my bedroom to protect them and keep them clean ,and safe from harm.

 

Here in the US we call those waterpipes hookahs. I smoke, but it doesnt really effect my dolls because I still live at home while im in college, and even though my moms boyfriend smokes, they dont allow smoking in the house, so our house is smoke free It would be hard to keep dolls away from the smoke in a smoking home. You could always keep them in a room that is smoke free, like keeping them in your bedroom and just keeping the door shut and not smoking in there. Even though its a room in a smoking house, it can make a big difference. And there is always glass display cases. They may not be completely sealed when shut, but im sure it would help.

 

I generally don't allow anyone to smoke in my house, simply because even I notice the terrible smell left over! Even if I did have friends round, and we all smoked, I'd chuck them outside, regardless of whatever we're doing at the time (gaming, dvd, whatever).

I don't really understand why you'd need a 'babysitter'. I can't imagine anyone would want to waste their time dropping off all their dolly belongings to another person just in case they want to sell the doll later. And that's even assuming smoke smelling dolls = unsellable! Decreased value, yes, but there are plenty of ways to clean up a doll and remove all the smoke staining. And yes, I know your market decreases if you say you smoke - some people are allergic/badly affected by it, but there are other people who aren't affected who can buy your 'soiled' items.

My dolls are usually in my smoke free bedroom, and as far as I know that prevents most of the damage. We aren't being 'bad dolly parents' if we smoke y'know It's not that we make our dolls yellow on purpose, but more we know what our bad habit can do, and we accept the consequences when they happen (yellowing, smells, general dislike from the non-smoking community )

I don't think I've ever seen a doll yellow from the smoke though - unless it's from a 40 a day habit going on for decades?