Soom Idealian 75cm Discussion Part 10

@meanae @Setsura Thank you both!

 

Oops, double post.

 

I think you may have mentioned before that most Chinese artists matching Soom resin match with 2021 resin which skews yellow (my 2021 amor is def more yellow). I know my 2022 & 2023 resin though is more pink/red for normal and peony. Do you think those artists will start making more pinky resin tones to match what Soom is putting out now? Or stay what they are doing now since they are inconsistent and may go back yellow?

 

Maybe artists should start offering 2 Soom colors, yellow-toned and red-toned, because Soom is so inconsistent?

 

It's unlikely that they will change it because of the standard that has been set already and met by many artists. There have been cases where different years of soom colours are offered, but they are mainly exhibited by large companies such as DFH rather than small artists, since most of them must reach a minimum order quantity for different colours, and it is not feasible for them to offer more if the requirements will not be met.

Also adding on to this fact, when yellowing occurs, red is the colour that will go first and fade, hence why some companies (such as pygmalion) have stated they purposely go harder on the red dye to help combat this. In due time, those heavy reds will probably fade to look more like the days of yellow soom anyway, so there's not much point in offering the red based colours in my opinion.

Soom has been very heavy handed with the red dye especially this year. It's extremely noticeable in Bronze, Tawny and Normal, and you can even see it hitting hard in latest release of Peony White Adonis, where Peony White was previous a very paper white but it's very clearly pink in this release and recent ones in LGs as well.

 

I was just talking about my previous Adonis from 2016 and how I wish I hadn't sold him, how I haven't even seen him for sale and that I'd give a kidney to get him back only DAYS ago. I feel like I accidentally summoned him lol. I made a noise when I saw him. Right after I promised myself no more Idealians

This time Soom really made it a theme right up my alley. Purple, white elegant lacy/elfy clothes. I personally really really love the fantasy style dolls more than the normal boys. Needless to say my finger slipped :') I'm really thankful I have almost all my little ID grails. Now if they would only release Narmer in a tan shade again my life would be compete. I like the Rdean faceup, but I got a little nervous at the price point of it all since the last Rdean faceup I saw in person was... not very impressive. This one was tempting though, but I got him blank with the outfit and all the extra goodies. Did anyone else cave?

 

I haven't been tempted by an Idealian for a log time! He is awesome!

 

Congrats to those that get Adonis. I also love this fantasy version of him and liked him since his original ID 72 release. He's awesome but I'll wait for a ID 75 normal resin release of him (which I know will be years). It worked out for me on this release and that I wasn't tempted because I just had a big car repair. He sure is tempting, though. I still have the ID 75 super long, ball jointed, claw nail hands to put together as I just got them in from Soom.

And for those inquiring and curious about Soom's latest normal skin coloring, the answer is still inconsistent and up in the air. As I just got in two pairs of ID ball jointed, claw hands new from Soom and they are both different shades. One pair is on the pink tint side and the other pair is more on the yellow tint side. I sold the doll that one of these were for so whatever one goes with my last boy the other pair will have to go.

 

@Setsura ahh I didnt know that about the red fading. Makes sense though!!

 

I bought him. I snapped and I bought Adonis. I don't even know where to begin articulating the string of coincidences that led me to justifying this purchase as some stroke of divine fate that was meant to be.

Just a summary through my feverish enthusiasm should suffice: I've wanted the 72cm unicorn release from 2016 forever because of its resemblance to my character (who, lo and behold, is a unicorn halfling). Searched far and wide for him secondhand to no avail. Didn't bother keeping up with Soom's new events because I didn't think a rerelease was even a possibility, but someone, bless them, saw my looking for post (from a YEAR ago, that I've barely bumped, ohmygod they call this den of angels for a reason don't they????) and notified me that he's back.

What floored me most is...look at this portrait of my character. And then look at the rerelease of Adonis. I already wanted the sculpt for this OC but his default customization and everything is nigh identical now!

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In any case, I took this as a sign. First purchase from Soom and I'm reeling with excitement!

 

Can anyone help me out with some information?

So I bought the recent Midsummer Ender release in normal skin. I only bought the human romance head and I'm... confused? His head is so small. It straight up looks like they just stuck the super gem head on the ID body. Like, it's tiny and had the cap and hook system. I think I remember seeing this somewhere, can someone confirm it for me?

The other thing I'm upset about is that the head and body are two different colors. I find this unacceptable, but I didn't notice until now. He's been in my possession for a month and kept in the box. I just now really opened him. So I doubt soom will do much about it.

Is this normal? These dolls cost so much money and I just don't understand why the head would be a different color or why that's acceptable

 

Ender was originally a megagem not a super gem. The megagem heads are a bit smaller than the Idealian heads. Many companies are using smaller heads rhat are closer to really human proportions. He may look better to you when he gets a wig.

On the color, does he have a faceup? Sometimes the sealent can make the head look lighter.

 

Right, Megagem, my bad, but I mean not fixed for ID. And no he doesnt have a faceup. His head is just a completely different resin tone.

 

They do not change the head attachment when they offer meagem heads on the Idealian body. Even thougth it has been a while I would ask Soom about the head color.

 

Like I said in my original post, I was just wondering if there was more information on the decision, since I thought I saw it somewhere and wanted someone to confirm if they had seen an official post about it or if I'm just imagining things. It's a strange size and decision since it makes his entire head about the same width as the neck lol. If I had known I wouldn't have purchased him. I can take the initiative to contact Soom myself, I just wanted to hear others experiences, thanks

 

All the dolls who were originally MegaGems never got an 'Idealian' update. So Aslan, Shoshon, Captain Hook, Ender, Phonolus and others have the same head they had when they were MegaGems. It was not enlarged or changed when they moved them to the Idealian line. All the heads from the MegaGem are slightly smaller than those who were released as an Idealian.

Consequently, due to the head being designed for the MegaGem line and never being updated to the Idealian line, they use the S hook system rather than the brain system. SOOM has not given any of the MG heads any updates other than moving them to the ID line. You will likely find that he looks better with a wig on - their heads vary by size according to sculpt, and I find some of the ID heads too big, although the MG line heads do err on the slightly smaller side, but not small enough to be of today's average 70cm standards.

Regarding the resin colour difference, SOOM is wildly inconsistent and it has been happening more frequently. There are cases where some people got dolls with a severe difference and were able to get it exchanged though QA and AS.

 

That's exactly what I was curious about. Someone did a comparison once and I remember seeing it, but I didn't know they hadn't actually updated the sizing, which is weird to me. Yeah he's all ordered from the same release at the same time, not a hybrid, so I'm like why the f is his head a different color if it came from the same release? The trick is being able to capture it - it's noticable in person but my phone lighting sucks, so I hope they can exchange it or something. Though I wonder if the new one would just be worse. The last time I exchanged a part that got broken, the new one was completely different and the doll was only two or so months old. So. Been dealing with the Soom inconsistency since I joined the hobby 10 years ago but I almost feel it's worse tbh xD

 

It's most likely in part Soom's laziness and also the fact that it's extra work and may change the way the sculpt looks. If they were to update it according to the current idealian standards, they would need to change it to apply the faceplate system, which may alter his look (not like this hasn't happened already before, but to a lesser extent). It probably didn't seem like much of an issue with the original ID72 release with smaller shoulders, but the ID75 has probably accentuated it a little. I don't see Soom changing it anytime soon as there's not enough complains about it for them to warrant doing it, because there's a large handful of people who are in the category I am, which don't see it as much of an issue (but it's definitely smaller and I understand your gripe about it).

Soom same batch colour inconsistencies have always existed, it'll unfortunately be a hit and miss case with the replacement part you receive, but I hope you get one that's acceptable.

 

Like I said I'd feel a lot better if his head width wasn't almost the same as his neck. He looks like a potato, but he's a hot potato, so I'll give him a chance. But then again which IDs aren't hot

As for the color inconsistency - oh no I'm aware, it's terrible xD, I've been Soomed for a decade now. None of it's new to me, but this is the first time I've had it different for the same doll (and for ID). But I contacted them so we'll see!

 

I imagine this can happen when the full doll is casted from one batch of resin, but then the head had a bubble or some other flaw, so they had to cast a new one another day. I suspect they don't measure the pigments accurately enough which is why the resin colors are so inconsistent.