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Ugh! He's not a girl!

May 16, 2016

    1. For outsiders is weird that male dolls wear make up (at least in my experience). My friend said that this guy here (my manliest looking doll haha) looks like a girl because he wears lipstick and eyeshadow but I just laughed it off. I'm aware that my boys are not the manliest guys ever since I lean towards the pretty/cute androgynous type of doll so I really don't get mad.

      I do get mad when people complain about the pretty/girly boys but that's another story. ^^
       
    2. My father asked if Takanori was a girl the other day but he actually corrected himself quickly.
      He's wearing tight hotpants and you can see he's not a girl XD
       
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    3. Honestly, many of the 'male' sculpts look very feminine and I do find it difficult to tell the difference sometimes. I compare it to some anime men looking feminine and having the same problem. This is why I'm very picky about my male dolls.

      Should you get mad when your male doll is confused for a female? Probably not, unless someone is saying it in a spiteful, rude demeanor.

      But that's my two cents worth.
       
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    4. I actually had a really funny experience with my grandpa recently my grandpa is a really gruff grumpy old fashioned macho Mexican man and I was sitting at the table with my doll who is currently modeling some of my incoming doll's clothes (it's bright pink and blue) and he goes " so you shaved off your doll's hair like yours" (it's short but not shaved) and I said no he's a boy and he laughed and said " is he supposed to be Michael Jackson or Prince " I of course didn't even know he knew about how Prince dressed it was hilarious especially considering that it's supposed to be an 80s outfit I always get mildly annoyed when my boy gets called a girl but that was gold
       
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    5. I don't mind it too much when people think my only boy doll is a girl. He's got the best eyelashes, liner, and eyeshadow :XD: What bugs me is, in hobby or outsider, when I say "oh he's a boy" and they persist in calling him a girl. My mom flat out asked "Can I just say girl?? Why can't I say girl?" And after again saying no he's a boy she asked "Does he have a pee pee?"
      Yes. My 55 year old mother asked me if my doll had a pee pee. I was already irked at the situation and then I got to see another glimpse of her transphobia (seriously, she's not respectful outside of the doll hobby) so I just said "yes" and left the room. That's my biggest story. Most people get it right after a few reminders. Hey, he is a pretty boy. But he's a boy.
       
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    6. I've watched anime for a long time, and am addicted to KDramas & KPop - hearing people ask me if the actual Asian ACTORS on my phone are male or female happens (one of the pics is Jiro Wang shirtless w/his chocolate abs, from Absolute Boyfriend - WHY would ANYONE think that pic looked feminine is beyond my ken). So hearing people call my dolls 'she' - even when an Iplehouse EID w/a beard (Dexter) LOL - doesn't surprise me.
      However, I have gotten VERY irritated at some people who just keep it up talking about how 'girly' the doll looks. I got ticked at one of my friends who kept calling my Rui (who's sculpt is a dead ringer for Changmin - TVXQ) a girl - he's on a Volks Grwn body (NOT girly) and although his face could be called feminine I had him in a Star Trek male uniform w/short hair, and had TOLD my friend it was a boy, AND made to look like a REAL LIVE male person - I too threatened to expose my poor doll there & then LOL
       
    7. Mistakes happen. It's not a big deal IMO to mistake someone for the wrong sex based on their physical appearance. I was routinely mistaken for a male until I hit adolescence, no matter what I wore. I'm speaking from firsthand experience. It's exasperating, but correcting someone politely is the best initial response. If they won't listen or start to get nasty? Yeah by all means pull that doll's pants down, ;)
       
    8. I think w/the obvious guys (DEXTER for instance, ones w/beards, or who are shirtless & obviously hunks) is that they are dolls and some people have a natural tendency to think 'female'. Lack of initial observation. My fav response was when I brought TWO dolls to a Star Trek meeting - one was a 70 cm Dikadoll Ty in a torn uniform ala Kirk (ie showing his chest a lot) & the other was a Ringdoll girl w/a huge bust done up as YN Rand LOL Somebody asked why the one doll was so flat-chested! I just laughed a lot.
       
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    9. I agree with most people here. If someone misgenders a doll, particularly the feminine looking boys, it's not that big of a deal and can usually be corrected politely. I've had friends and family misgender my boys. I know I like long hair on men so that's what more of my dolls have, Raleigh (my icon) being the exception. However, what annoys me are those who keep using the wrong pronoun even after being corrected.

      There was one point I brought Raleigh to a sci fi club meeting and, for the most part, had a lovely time. The president was actually into BJDs, which I had no idea so she and I had a wonderful conversation before the meeting began. However, there was one person who thought his opinion on Raleigh's gender was the only one that counted no matter what I said. When I told him that Raleigh was male, he ignored me at first and then decided my doll was trans and started being a bigot. By the time I walked out of club, he followed me and continued to make rude comments about me, Raleigh, and transgender people in general.

      The was probably the most negative experience I've had.

      My father called my 65cm Dollzone boy a girl despite the fact that he was naked at the time (I was in the middle of unpacking his clothes) and obviously male. That situation was more funny than anything else.
       
    10. Yesterday I went to a store to pick up a doll I had reserved. And the salesperson still called him a girl! lol I do correct people tho because I don't like that people think men or boys have to look a certain way. And I know there's the idea that dolls are just for girls. But I've met so mane men, not even boys, men who are into dolls. And I think it might make them feel even more welcome to know the hobby isn't so female-centric.
       
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    11. Johnny and Alistair are both a bit on the effeminate side. I didn't intend for Alistair to be such a mega-fop hair metal type, but he is. When someone screws up their gender I just giggle and say "Actually he's a boy." Then I get a kick out of the other person's expression. It's no big deal for me. If I'm going to drag Johnny and Alistair around in public with long wigs and brightly-colored tops, then I'd best just accept gaffes from the uninitiated.
       
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    12. Originally I only had two dolls, one was a DoC H. Kirill who was styled as a girl. Although he never wore dresses his clothes were cute with a lot of colors. My father really liked 'her' a lot and he never got to believe that it was a guy.

      I still like effeminate dolls a lot but because my dad keeps referring to them as 'she' I don't mind if others does the same. I don't really have that many girly dolls left, most of them have become actual girls, but I haven't experienced many who couldn't see the gender of my dolls. I guess I have been lucky that way
       
    13. I have an bobobie Apollo and everyone thinks hes a girl and I'm like but hes a pretty guy, I don't take it personal but its understandable since hes my only male doll
       
    14. Eh, it doesn't bother me. I get misgendered frequently, my son gets misgendered even more frequently, and we just sort of shrug it off because we don't fit into narrow and traditional gender stereotypes. If it isn't hurting our feelings, then why on earth would I have my feelings hurt over a doll being called a "girl" when he's a boy?

      If someone presses the point, though, or is argumentative, I pants the doll. My dad pretty quickly learned to just take me at my word if I said a doll was a male.
       
    15. I like genderbending dolls, so take it for what you will.

      Only one that really ever tripped me up was Souldoll's Ruan which I ended up getting with a female body just because he's so cute, but anyway, I wouldn't get angry if it were just some random person who simply wanted to know out of curiousity. I think that it is good for there to be some ambiguity for gender and sexuality and I think that it would be good for more people to appreciate things for what they are artistically and proportionately are.

      I think if someone is asking, objectively, what your dolls parts are, you should just be upfront and honest and not fuss over it; but some people are also obviously degrading when they ask such things, and you would have every right to be offended if they are inquiring derisively. There are, unfortunately, too many people who still view the world in pink and blue and red and black and cannot appreciate a handsome woman or a beautiful man.

      Not going to lie, if bought a Crobi Lance head, I would probably put it on a female body (and I do think it's quite a beautiful sculpt) but I don't see the point in fussing over it. Hell, Alice Cooper is a straight man who took a girl's name and wears make-up, but most people would probably not take much issue with him anymore. Times are changing, and have been for a while, but some people are just quicker or slower to catch up than others, and some simply never will, it's just something you have to learn to live with.
       
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    16. I love when I'm out and someone asks if a doll is a boy or girl. I get to go into lecture mode to explain how to tell the difference. I think I've only met one or two people that haven't fled after giving me the creeper out look. Lol.:cool:
       
    17. I was a bit annoyed when my parents mistook my Xagadoll boy for a girl, but then he was in the most gender neutral girls clothes I had since I had no boys clothes when I got him. And he is rather feminine looking.
       
    18. I wouldn't care what pronoun people used for my dolls.
       
    19. Some people just think all dolls=girls, no matter what the doll itself looks like. Iplehouse EID man without a shirt? Girl. Unidoll Ark? Girl. Completely naked male doll with erect "option parts?" Girl (because???). It's like my grandma who thinks every cat is a boy and will still call a girl cat a boy, even my cousin's cat who was clearly pregnant and clearly gave birth to kittens is still somehow a boy to her. *_*
       
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    20. I don't make a big deal out of it when it happens, but I do roll my eyes at just how badly people *look* at things. I have a boy on a Feeple65 body. He is an early medieval Irish prince, so he wears a long tunic (to most people: "a dress") and no trousers. He also has long red hair - back in the days, the law mentioned the punishments you could get for cutting off a man's long hair, so it was pretty important!

      Dress + long hair = non-doll owners take him for a girl. But seriously, on that body?! Do they think he must be a boobless bodybuilder lady on steroids?!

      Then again, "dress + long hair = woman" seems to be the golden rule for most people. My drawings of Snape (shoulder-length hair + robes) have elicited comments of "oh that lady looks pretty grumpy". It doesn't matter that he has a large hooknose, a prominent cleft chin, large sideburns and a chest as flat as an ironing board... -_-
       
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