Where do all the cheap dolls go?

Fair enough. Regardless, I think still think that the vast majority of talk that ends up being read as snobbery is really about things that are more concrete. Sure, there are some fools/jerks but I don't think that's a very large group (maybe a loud group, sometimes).

No, I mean the old RS body (I have the brown carrier to prove it! ) - I have a BBB mini girl whose body has even more challenges.

In any case, my saying that something has engineering issues is not my saying that they're "bad" - that's the kind of reaction that I find frustrating. I think it should be fair to discuss a body's flaws without having it turn into a discussion that goes into some general "It's bad/it's great" area - there are very few perfect products, so I don't think that kind of generalization is very useful when it comes to objectively describing/comparing products.

To return to the main topic, I think the fact that the lower-priced dolls are snatched up so quickly when they show up on the MP just goes to show how popular they are.

 

I wasn't trying to turn it into that type of discussion, I just now when I've heard alot of complaints on RS doll bodies, people were really meaning the BBB bodies, since some individuals get them confused, it was merely an inquery. my apologizes if it seemed like anything other than a question and a personal statement. You are correct no doll is perfect.. some people see certain flaws in dolls that others may not mind its all personal preference. Which could probably be said the same for less expensive dolls, maybe its the price maybe its the love for the doll..they are out there just have to keep looking and snag them while you can..lol

 

True enough!

 

^ most important line of text I'd read so far and agreed with.
As far as LE's are concerned, people resell them because they *are* limited, and people *will* have missed out on them, and will be regretting their missing out, and thus will attempt to buy the doll at a higher price.

 

Just because something is limited and expensive doesn't mean they will sell any higher or quicker than most dolls. I think bjds are very, very individual and people who speak in sweeping statements are missing the fact that most of us like bjds because we like the various sculpts and can individualize them by dressing them how we like--and this is true if we never mod a doll or just go with fullsets--it's an individual thing.

And I don't see why some are so judgmental regarding the price. I buy dolls in all price ranges--and I don't think less of dolls that cost less. In fact--I would LOVE for ALL dolls to cost less! Who really wants to be paying thousands for a doll? If we do pay that much, it's because we obviously really want that doll. And we could easily really want a doll that costs much less, too.

Anyway--I agree with posts that say there ARE certainly less expensive (relatively! a hundred-dollar doll is still not "cheap" to me!) doll that are re-sold. I see them on the Marketplace and on Ebay, anyway. I'm looking ALL the time, so I do spot them! And I AM tempted because, as others have said, a few hundred dollars is easier to impulse-buy with than a thousand dollars... but I try not to let that affect me, because I need to save my money not for impulse buys, but for dolls I really, really want--whatever their price.

I think some people might be thinking that because lesser priced dolls are more affordable that people are buying tons of them without really thinking hard about whether they really want one, and then these people will just sell them as easily, so there should be tons flooding the various marketplaces. I think all those assumptions could be totally false. As I said, a few hundred dollars is still a fair amount of money to be throwing about casually. I think most owners really think about it before deciding on a doll. I think these dolls are not so plentiful, no matter what the price, and that people think hard before selling a doll, too. I think those that decide to sell will sell an expensive doll the same as a less expensive dolls--if they are not bonding and wish to get some money for a doll they want more.

I don't think there are tons of dolls floating about and possibly for sale at some point of any kind! I usually see quite a great mix of dolls on the Marketplace--old and new, limited and basic, well-worn and kept in a box... bits and pieces and fullsets... I know I have heads without bodies and am always looking at bodies that don't cost a ton of money... but I don't see them that often--not the right one in the right skin tone, no matter what the retail price originally was! Nothing seems common when you're looking to find it! It's just a psychological thing... if you're looking for a really cheap doll, there never seem to be enough, same as when you're looking for that OOAK fullset that's mint! At least that's the way it seems to me. I never can find the right thing when I'm wanting to buy it.

 

I always found that when people did re-sell cheaper dolls they never dropped the price adequately. So the dolls wouldn't sell. Knocking $25-$50 off a cheap doll sin't always enough to tempt buyers. I've sold Sooms a few times and if they don't sell I'll drop the price. I'm not too proud to say maybe my dolls have lost value, even if they were once quite pricey. I used to see BB's in the MP all the time, but at the price people wanted it was easier to buy new because then you get to make every choice yourself for just a little more money.

 

I think maybe another reason for less of the cheaper dolls being on the marketplace could be because a lot of people use the less expensive bodies to hybrid with the head of their choice.

 

I think it's just basic economics...beautiful dolls at a good price! That sort of thing is going to be in demand no matter what, so they get snatched up pretty quickly in any marketplace. I'm one of those odd sentimental types that when it's time for a doll to move on, sells it at a very good price because I've already had so much fun with it (often years of fun!) and I like to give back to the DoA community. It doesn't matter what doll it is, it usually sells in from minutes to a couple of hours at the most. People just love a bargain after all! And let's face it, a nice resinsoul doll is pretty, has smooth resin and no seam lines. If it's a sculpt you like, as a less expensive doll, it's a great bargain even at full price!

 

I think a fair number of people overvalue their dolls when they're first listed regardless of price - and honestly, I think the lower priced dolls sell faster even with fairly minor price drops just because the lower price means there's a larger market with the cash-in-hand. And frankly, if you look at the price cuts as a percentage, knocking $25-$50 off a cheaper doll can be a 50% discount, while I've seen $1700+ listings that stayed unsold for months because the seller didn't want to go down that much and on those dolls it amounts to a tiny percentage.

 

That is a good point. I guess it also makes a difference what one would consider a cheap doll too. Personally, if it is a basic mold that has not been discontinued I think of it in that category, because it is still available and fairly easy to get. But it is all relative, because $700 is a cheap doll to me because I prefer more expensive and BIG dolls unfortunately (literally costing me a fortune, ha ha! Sorry, really bad attempt at a pun 0-o) so I think it can make a huge difference what kind of dolls you normally buy, or would like to buy and then compare the prices to them.

 

Well, if someone has an absolute ceiling on their personal budget, that's a bit of a different situation. Looking at asking prices without any other consideration though, when it comes to discounts I don't really think it can be about anything other than the percentage. Taking $25 dollars off the cost of a $1700 doll just isn't the same deal that taking $25 off a $700 doll is (or the steal that $25 off a $150 doll is).


Even given absolute budgets though, the higher you go the more potential buyers you eliminate. Of course that isn't an issue if you (as a seller) aren't dealing with budget (or space) limitations yourself, but I see a fair number of listings of dolls at all price points that list "Want to buy a new doll" as their reason for selling, and I think that sometimes creates additional limitations (or unrealistic expectations) on asking prices as well. And again, that's less of an issue for a higher percentage of potential sellers as the prices go lower, so if the personal selling the lower priced doll requires less of an investment in their next purchase there might be more flexibility on that side as well.