A fat dollfie.

Not in the 60-80cm, the 43cm, nor the 30cm.

However, down at 15cm are the fabulous BonBon and Coco from Sleeping Elf (by Tinybear).

Check out the Fat Fairy Fan Club down in Tinies. http://www.denofangels.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192004

They have personalities as big as any doll!

Ann in CT

 

thanks dybbuk.

 

I live vicariously through my dolls..can't wear all the pretty clothes and tight fashions..I do it through them. LOL, at least that is MY excuse ;0)

 

XD I do too in a way, though also some of my dolls are of my rp characters and more than one are a bit on the thick side. XD I kinda hope someday I can make a doll of my character Rion, but for him to be proportionate to my other dolls he'd have to be nearly as big as me with a lot of muscle and a potbelly.
My only other alternative would be a chibi version of him if Luts ever puts out a black skinned Lio.
lol Please excuse the unfinished state of the drawing. My lack of health slows things down a lot.

 

There is a chubby doll. I forgot the name of the company but I have seen it.

 

I met a woman at Fairiecon who designed a "real" womans figure bjd. She was lovely! She had boobs of course, but also hips and thighs. I wish I could remember her name. I think she was about 26-30 cm, and of Latino origins. The woman who designed here was Latino.

 

I'd adore a plump doll, of any gender. I find very skinny doll moulds very offputting and unattractive, and am always on the search for dolls with curves, or more developed bodies. I think a plump doll would be awesome. I've noticed a bit of fat hate in the doll fandom, which is very saddening. I'm a fat girl, I like fat people, I like thin ones too! Just like I'd like dolls with a wider representation of ethnic backgrounds, I'd like a lot more variation in body shape for dolls.

 

I have seen a few they're HZ BJDs I think. (Roros) Even though they're really fat they're so cute! I love them and if you love them then that's the point.

 

I think Suigintou has junk in the trunk

 

They haven't been deemed on or off topic yet, but the C-Line Fairyland dolls are definitely bigger than most MSD scale dolls. Hourglass figure, yes, but giant lady thighs of awesome.

I also remember that plump girl body. I think the dolls were deemed OT since their style didn't look anything like the dolls allowed here, mostly in the face.

(Maybe that's part of the reason why we see so few plump dolls. The ones that ARE out there just don't mesh with the aesthetic accepted by DoA!)

 

It really sucks that there aren't any chubby dolls out there. I really do want one for my character, Ducky, who is a nerd and definitely not on the skinny side. It's impossible to find a BJD like that, however (as I've been looking everywhere). I wish I could find one, but I've just had to try and find alternatives for it instead.

Then, it hit me on how I could do it! I am going to make him a fatsuit! You know like in the movies how they have those suits that they put the actors into, to make them look bigger than they are? Basically that. I've seen people do it to female dolls to make them look pregnant, so I don't see why I can't make one for a male doll to try and get him to look a bit heavier.

This is Ducky:


It's pretty hard to find a doll that looks like him, both in facial proportion and body size, so well that's my solution to this problem currently... I'm really hoping there'll be a doll released at some point that actually is bigger... but for now, I am going with the fatsuit route.

 

Aw, gridbug, he looks like a cute character! I have also thought of using padding to change a doll's figure--in fact, I have done it with a non bjd just by layering clothes. The drawback, however, was that the impermanence of the mod bothered me; I knew it was just an illusion, so to speak.

Anyway, I also think it's a shame that most of the bjd bodies out there are so idealized and well-toned. I was quite excited when I discovered the EID female body because that was at least tending towards voluptuous-- but now Iplehouse has released their thinner SID girls, due to popular demand

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the "idealistic proportions" of BJDs because I've been incredibly stick-skinny my whole life and I've been made fun of for my body type (people think I have an eating disorder) and my lack of breasts and curves literally every day since elementary school. What my peers have said to me has generally made me really self conscious about my own body, which is wrong. I think that being able to retreat to these dolls and dress them up in clothes and styles I've always admired but was too shy to experiment with myself is nice. I like seeing them fill out clothes that I will never be able to, honestly.

However...I would prefer a pear shaped or hourglass figure girl over a skinny doll any day. Curves are absolutely beautiful.

 

I think you'd need a western dollmaker to create a truly fat bjd, since in asia where most of them are made there are extremely few fat people, and the ones that are fat are nowhere near what's considered fat in America. They aren't going to make something that they never see (which is no doubt the reason why most dolls look caucasian or asian and nothing else) and definately not something they see as undesireable and couldn't market locally.

 

I want a chubby BJD with a round baby face!

 

Yeah, that annoyed me too. I was really hoping for a shorter, voluptuous girl body, on the order of a Mae West. A lot of shorter women, especially from certain ethnicities (obviously not the ones Asian doll makers tend to portray) are busty and have larger hips, and I find that quite attractive. I'm sick of almost every doll out there looking either like a skinny rail or like a giant Amazon, but as you noted, that seems to be what sells. A pity.

 

You have a point. I grew up in the Philippines and to people there a UK size 6 (is that 4 in America?) is already "chubby". When some of my Filipino friends came to the UK they had to shop in children's stores to find clothes that fit their size. They were in their mid 20's, about 5'2. @_@ I'm not joking. In many Asian countries the problem is not obesity, it's malnutrition.

 

This might be the most heart felt thing I ever post on DOA.

First I think most of us recognize that beauty standards change over the years. E.g. huge wide forehead (hair plucking), big butt, full chest (corset), tiny feet (foot binding), tiny rose pedal lips, fat rolls (Rococo style), pearly white skin (arsenic face cream!), fair hair (damaging dyes), big eyes, ink black hair, small ankles, itty bitty waist (tight lacing), long neck etc...

I honestly don't believe that any of these ideals about women have been correct. We come in many shapes and sizes. All thin women are not staving themselves. We are not all necessarily bulimic or anorexic. I am 38 and I have never been able to really gain weight my whole life. I am as I am and I don't really like when chubby women refer to me as an over developed 13 year old boy or an anorexic (and yes I have personal XP with this too)

It seems that people need to realize that standards for female and male beauty have been with us for a long long time. This is nothing new. We are effected by the beauty standards of our time because it symbolizes more beneath the surface than just pounds. In the old days Fat = wealth and health because you could afford to eat well and not partake in hard labor. Today Fat = lazy and unhealthy (I don't think this) because if you have money you have time for personal trainers and time to go to the gym. You are happy and successful if you are thin. It also demonstrates some kind of self control to refrain from eating. Everyone knows you can afford food so you're special power it to NOT eat it and go to Yoga instead. Weird huh?

Designers use thin women to show off their clothes because they want their outfits to hang and keep their original shape. They don't want the woman's body defining the outfit in our minds. It is easier to sell something if the buyer can imagine themselves in the outfit. See what I mean? As for making clothes that are uncomfortable well if you are talking about the top fashion designers you need to understand they are not selling street fashion they are introducing new clothes concepts. Their job is to keep the fashion world fresh and open people to new ideas. Some of these ideas will make it the street eventually in a form that is more acceptable by all of us, thin women too But we need fashion designers to do this exercises because without it we would all be stuck in GAPish clothing that changes very little over the years. Fashion designer's role is to stir the pot and make way for change. I don't think we can lay the blame at their doorstep you know. Not the designers themselves. I blame more the diet industry (pills and potions) and magazines that promote the idea that you should look like some overly air brushed barbie doll. I blame the fast and frozen prepackaged food industry for lying to consumers about the health risks and promoting the idea that we women have no time in our busy schedules to cook healthy meals for ourselves. I also blame women for buying into all this crap.

I like my BJDs slim and boyish and I think that has a lot to do with my own body. I also prefer flatter chested dolls for the same reason. Have I been messed with by media? Sure I have but you know I have also listened to enough Kate Moss bashing over the years to make me wonder if other thin girls feel put down as well. You mentioned wanting a Queen Latifa doll but really to me that is as bad as the Kate Moss doll. If you want to help women with their body image are either of these types really the benchmark body? Actually what would be the acceptable benchmark? Again we are all so different. Basically by mass media standards none of us is good enough because the ideal beauty exists in 1percent of the population.

So what am I saying with all this? Fat women are not the only ones effected by beauty ideals and I don't think BJDs are part of some oppression by men. BJDs are not furthering bad body images for women because in reality their market penetration is zero compared to diet medications and low quality food commercials telling us that we only have time to cook a Hotpocket for dinner and wash it down with a diet pill. Media keeps telling us it is these artists (fashion designers, painters, sculptors) messing with our heads but no one points out that Bagel Bits and "Healthy" high fat salad dressing etc...are making us fat so that diet miracle plans can come in and steal our money with promises of a quick fix! Than after we DO starve ourselves media IS THERE TO accuse us of being anorexic! Look at how many celebrities are headlined once they lose weight and judged as being too thin and sickly! OMG where is the sweet spot? Media is everywhere telling us we are not good enough and who we should blame and somehow we need to fight back internally and externally if we are to better influence kids growing up today.

 

I completely agree, Isenn. We are all subject to critical attention based on our appearance. I think it's a matter of taking responsibility for our own lives. There's no need to be fooled by bogus 'healthy' claims on food packaging or to buy into wanting to look like barbie dolls if we don't want to, I hate being told we're so gullible and the big bad fashion industry/media/advertising etc is oppressing and brainwashing us all. Most articles about eating disorders blame the fashion industry, which I always found irritating when I was in treatment for mine - give me some credit, I know the difference between airbrushed fantasy and reality like I don't believe every claim I see in an advert. Yes, the beauty ideal most often presented for women at the moment is a sanatized, airbrushed thing with barely any secondary sexual characteristics which most dolls also conform to but to be honest, I find it hard to be bothered by them. They're both stylised and I don't think that it comes across that they are an ideal to imitate. At least not to me.
And the majority of doll people seem to prefer these stylised (I'm not using the word idealised) elongated figures. Yes, I'd love to see more variety. I'd actually love a heavier male doll myself (not for size equality, just because I want one) but I get the feeling it's still a very niche interest so there won't be something like that commercially available any time soon.

 

So far, all the overweight (or rather, not-super-skinny) production dolls I have seen have definitely fallen into the "cute" category, and usually represent babies or toddlers (in which case, this weight is normal and healthy).

-anyways-

I fall into the (infernally difficult to find clothes for) body-type of wide shoulders, small chest, and overweight. As long as I can remember, I have had characters, both male and female, who were small-framed and slim-figured, partially because no amount of diet or exercise or lifestyle change will ever make me that, and if writing/roleplaying/general story and character creation are going to be my escape and fantasy, why shouldn't they be what I never can be (and wish I could)? (On the other hand, I generally write in settings/time periods where it was much less common for people to be overweight). I'm the first to admit I don't have the best body confidence (I was bullied as a kid and my dad teased on a very regular basis until I stopped talking with him over various reasons), but I don't pay much attention to the media and don't really blame it for my feelings. Yes, I want to get in shape, but not because I want to look pretty to everyone else. I would love to be able to wear some of the styles I love and have them look "right", but on the other hand I know if I lose weight I won't be able to wear some of the things I love and that flatter the body I have right now. I'd also like to be healthier in general, and to be stronger physically.

Back to dolls, I don't think I'd buy a doll with exactly my body type, simply because I don't like what it represents in me (not only in my personality, but it is tied to a lot of emotional abuse throughout my life). An overweight (or even average weight!) doll in another body type, though, I would definitely consider (and the Tinybear fairies are growing on me more and more...), as long as the body was in a general proportion and weight distribution I found appealing, though I think the slim bodies would still be my "ideal."

There are some problems I see with an overweight (not average, but actually fat) doll:

For one, *as we all know* being overweight is unhealthy. Actually, the Tinybear fairies don't look unhealthily overweight (aka fat) to me--they look like a healthy weight distribution on a larger frame (the fact that they don't have "fat faces" helps with this impression). BJDs exist primarily as something to "look pretty". I'm not saying that people of ANY body type can't or don't look attractive, but essentially, we are pushing for an ideal, and (even if there is obviously no one body shape that would be possible for everyone to acheive) I would rather the ideal be a healthy one, and even if BJDs aren't perfect in this regard, it is the direction people should be trying for. Yes, people come in all shapes and sizes, and there should be more representation, but there will always be an ideal, and it will always be nearly impossible to achieve and almost always be an extreme, and this doesn't just apply to looks.

My other point is that, well, resin is a hard material. BJD breasts tend to look fake because they are rigid and thus don't respond realistically to movement and orientation (another reason I prefer the slimmer BJDs). An overweight BJD, depending on the body type, could have the same problem with much of their body.