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ATStudio Dolls

Mar 1, 2021

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      They do have similarities, but to the point of saying that one is the copy of the other, well we wont really know unless the atstudio artist will provide sufficient amount of progress pictures to back their claim that they did not use soom narmer as a base then modified it later on (which would clearly be counted as recasting). Until then we could only wait till SOOM, as a company that specializes in this, could release a statement on whether there really was a recasting act that happened. This is a grave issue. If those atstudio heads and or body really were recasted copies of the original soom heads (or other company or artist doll in this respect), then atstudio artist should face charges for this, just cause multiple copies of their dolls have been sold for quite a high price and as supposedly original dolls.

      Oooo Now i get the whole ‘sold a number of soom dolls secondhand’ thing now. So these accusations point out that atstudio artist used these heads in the past as bases to make or produce recast copies of their dolls then sold them in the secondhand market afterwards. Wow, thats a whole lot of detective work that theyve been doing. I do hope they forward all of these information to soom to help with the investugation and not just spread them online to drag this issue on or slander atstudio artist.
       
      #81 lizumi156, Apr 28, 2021
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    2. Hi dear, I just want to give some ideas from my friends about respond of SOOM. I found some ideas on Weibo similar with my friends.
      1. Did Volks, Napi, Fifth motif respond directly about an artist copy their plagiarized? They didn't because some sensitive reason. First, did any scuplt of doll of those brands resign copyright? It is tired if they have to follow any lawsuit.
      2. Most important: their business is on China. They will have trouble if they conflict directly with Chinese artist.
      3. I saw ATstudio fans used conflict of politic, history between China and Korea as a shield to protect CapHook. No brand want to tough this sensitive point.
      4. Because of cannot respond directly, they make an unplanned decision: release Narmer. I think it enough to say their attitude in this case.
      5. CapHook and his fans rely on difficulty of SOOM in respond directly to make him clean.
      In my opinion, until now, by many evidences, everybody have their conclusion for this case. Stop or continue in support ATstudio are decision of ourselves.
      I feel so bad because I really like Baker.
       
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    3. As I mentioned, these are just my personal opinions. In fact, there is actually more evidence in Weibo supporting my point of view. I am sure for most experienced Soom collector, these evidence is clear enough to individuals.
      If Soom never actually gonna do anything about it, I will still never ever again buy from ATStudio.
      Not trying to force anyone to accept my ideas, but just trying to clear their eyes a little bit.
       
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    4. To be honest there really isn’t much SOOM can do legally speaking against ATstudio, since they are a overseas company based in China where international copyright jurisdiction is an grey area.
      For example the infamous Chinese recast company Oueneifs to this day still have not received legal reprimands of any sort from the long lists of doll companies they have recasted from, then stole their legal licensing distribution rights in China on Taobao by registering these overseas companies names first themself on the government’s commercial company licensing registration data base. To put it simply, Oueneifs is the legal owner of these companies names in China. Crazy but true.
       
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    5. Not only you see the similar of those heads. There are many dolls of ATstudio on sale now and their price dropped by hour. After an evidence was given, the price dropped a little bit.
      I agree with your idea.

      Thank for your description. It is all of things I try to talk in my previous comment.
       
      #85 DianNguyen, Apr 28, 2021
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    6. ETA:
      I translated incorrectly.
      To clarify, the netzens are saying Cetus is a combination of parts from these 4 dolls:
      -SOOM Arslan, Raol, Sard
      -Illusion garden Unicorn Yuli
       
    7. Hopefully soom will release a statement on this matter, soon and put an end to it.

      Honestly though, i doubt they will. From a pure commercial point of view, there is not much gain by joining this drama.

      i think I will wait a bit longer to see more information and conclude by myself...
       
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    8. You’re most welcome! Thank you too for the detailed translation work.
      I’ve been in the hobby long enough to say plainly that plagiarism of intellectual property truly does have negative impact on this already niche community.
      Again I am only here to provide information and documentation from Weibo so collectors who don’t speak Chinese are informed and aware.
       
      #88 bpanda, Apr 28, 2021
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    9. That might be true. But i dont see the point in Soom ignoring this wherein fact they were able to release official statements regarding those past recasting issues. They should at least make an official announcement (and given that someome already informed them about this) to inform their buyers or followers about this. Its their works that are involved after all.

      Thank you so much for these information. True enough, plagiarism is a grave offense. Its downright disrespectful.
       
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    10. Possibly Soom’s past dispute experience with Miyadoll might be what guides how they will respond to the current ATstudio situation.

      Either way, official statements or none, given the mounting evidence people are free to choose and decide what they would like to do.

      You’re most welcome. <3
       
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    11. I believe most people will see the truth! We just have to watch.
       
    12. Can someone translate ATStudio’s response as well? Just so we can see what they’re saying about it.
       
    13. Thank you all for your detailed information here! The moment I saw Cetus, I immediately got Illusion Garden Yuli vibes. I initially liked the look of him, but after reading through here I will abstain from this company. There is a lot more here than I first thought and I really appreciate the insights. Even without ATStudio's response, my mind is personally made up.
       
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    14. Could you tell me what happen between Soom and Miyadoll? I try to find information but I don’t understand.

      Do you use facebook or IG? I will send pictures of translation to you. The translation of weibo can help you understand about 70-80% of meaning. I can’t upload picture here.
       
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    15. Im actually curious as well. But it might be a forbidden topic, so might as well take the conversation in PMs.

      Ooo can you send me those as well please. My ig is lizumi156. Thank you so muuch
       
    16. Do you have IG? I can PM you there would be easier.
       
    17. Count me in as well please. lizumi156. Thank you
       
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    18. My IG: leona_tn
      Thank you!
       
    19. Can you send it to me too?:blush
      IG: _doll_ingg_
       
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      Thank you!
       
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