Copy Cats! - does it bother you if someone tries to copy your doll's style/looks?

Look i think i can live with, limited clothes and similar tastes in clothes and other such things are going to happen. (although Liadan's hair is a custom made wig so seeing one like that again would bug me)

i think what would bug me more is personality theft.. someone taking not only the name (names are just overlapping things they will happen) but also your characters basis personality and duplicating it.. that would disturb me..

anything else i would chalk up to coincidence.

 

Hummm well I don't know exactly how I feel about this. I'm a very competitive person naturally (which can be a problem in the cosplay world XD where I'm all "GRR" when someone else does a character that I did at the same convention rofl, but I get over it). So yeah it'd probably bug me A LOT of someone copied me. Though inspiration isn't bad. Copying... is.

Also, I believe I'm the only person who has the Marauders on their way home from Harry Potter. So far I have only Remus, but soon I plan to have the whole gang: Remus, Sirius, Peter, James, Lily and Snape. And also a completely Harry Potter inspired crew (all characters minus the marauders are original).

Now... if I found out someone ELSE had these characters T__T I'd be kinda upset. Though I know the marauders are JK Rowling's CHARACTERS so I don't own them.... just... still D: it was my idea xOOOOO *shakes fist* ;__; fuu.

 

To go with what Ryuichi says regarding her HP dolls... As well as a crap load of my own thoughts comments and tribulations... >,< Aya...*huff*

FIRST! The Dilema!... (well not really Dilema since the end result is already desided but still, worth noting)

There is a girl on here with a Rune/Luts doll. IE Ian-KunX . He is a character from Phantasy Star 4. And oddly enough thats my Favorite video game ever. Funnyer still, before I joined this board I had/have plans on making 4-5 dolls based on the characters from this game. And that Includes Rune/Lutz (its the same chara, he just has two names in the game lol) I never thought anyone else had the idea for a Rune Untill I joined DoA. I also Planned on my El that I am getting (vincent) Would cosplay as Rune Untill I got and customised a full doll for the Rune character...

Now, since the characters are not her copyright and are widely known over the world (in the gaming comunity at least) Does that give her the right to be made at me to make a Rune doll? I don't think it does because in the end he is not an original character of hers and isn't that what we are both doing in the first place? Copying someone ELSES designs? Im sure She'll be irked, and probly mad but fact of the matter is I love the same game and character and I plan on making Rune doll of my own to love including the others regardless. (Sorry sweets, Runes like my #1 fav, however, I may make my 2nd EL Zio and my Hound Lutz insted... >,< Desicions desicions!)

I just hope she understands this and heck, maybe is even just a little curious as to how Im going to create him and maybe even want to be friends because of our obvious love of the game? *wink wink* ... *has that please dont hate/kill me look on her face* Besides I Love her Rune and am actually happy hes getting some representation these day!

So there are my thoughts on that, public characters such as Video game, movie, manga etc, doll owners dont really have a right to get made if they see another doll of that kind out there... I mean I've seen Vincent Valintine dolls out there, Sephiroth dolls, and all sorts of video game and manga and anime baced dolls out there, so we really can't complain... *Covets her plans for various video game baced dolls lol... Is a BIG gaming geek if you hadn't knoticed lol*

On a smal flip.. I'm toying with the notion on modding HUGE elf ears on a head really big almost bat like elf ears for a Comic Book chara I've loved for years. Lusiphur From Posion Elves. Although he is a wide known character, having to mod a head for his ears would make him an original of mine, and thus if i saw a copy cat of THAT I might be a wee bit pissed... Beause at that point I took the time effort and love to mod/create him into his delishious elvin self and would make him more 'original' in the sence of the notion.. ok, im rambling... LOL... Copying mods are baddddd.... >,<

So, in these respects I give you ....
The exception of...
"OMFGWTFBBQ!?!?! A ___Incert Name of character here____ DOLL!!!?!??! I WANT ONE!!! IM GOING TO MAKE ONE NOW TOOO!!!" Then by all means, split some heads... LOL..

Now my opinions on 100% Originals.

You did the wig (styled, made etc)
You made the clothes or had them custom
You did the face up or got a custom face up
You gave them a Unique name and persona
You modded them etc

Now if someone steals all this then yes, I do belive you can get mad. Why because alot of us use our dolls as modles/acters etc. Its like taking and anime character and using them as your own for your comic. It's something you've created from your immagination and used your creativness to well.. CREATE!

The short of it is it's going to happen and it sucks. But just give your doll all the love you can and know that this one is yours to love and you can only hope the other person loves theirs as much as well. In the end it just shows how uncreative and unimaginitive the 'copy cat' person is. And to me, thats somewhat sad..

I mean, Im wating for my BW EL to arrive. His Name is Vincent Vile and he will have black hair and red and/or violet eyes. Now how many ELs are there out there that look like that, or even share the same first name? But out of this will blossom his persona and character that will be individual to him. And to ME thats what will make him special.

Sure he may share the same first name as someone, but really, Vincent is my favorite boys name, if i ever have a son, his name will be vincent and I think its because back when i was a wee little girl watching the Live action Beauty and the Beast series on TV guess what?

Beasts name was.. VINCENT lol...

So names in some cases, dont bother me too much..

I mean I've been copyed over the years with Online Handles (This one and my other two I've had for well over a decade) So I've really just gotten over it all... But i do understand the agrivation it can cause so dont get me wrong here..

To me there are so many ELs and Hounds etc out there, that in the end if you let things get to you will just spoil everyons fun. I do enjoy seeing everyones variation on the casts and finding out their story. But there are going to be alot of similaritys between dolls because of the fact they are the same mould and cast as well as the wigs eyes clothes boots etc that are redily available for this hobby.

I hope people that are into this hobby will take the time to make theirs an original, but sadly this is not always the case.. As I said before, love your doll, know that they are the one for you and just continue to have fun.

/Violet

PS: PLEASE don't attack me about the Rune doll thing. I think that would just be a bummer, this is my opinion, its whats right for me, and you may not agree, but calling me names and telling me its wrong to make this doll because someone else has one like it, is just plain pointless. Thanks.

 

It's interesting to me that you have such a double standard, VV... You don't want someone else to be mad at you for making Rune, yet you'd get bent out of shape if anyone else said "Hey, I want to make a Poison Elves mod."

They're both doll designs based on a commercial, publicly available intellectual property. There's no difference between the two concepts on a basic level. They're both dolls based on other media. Neither belongs to the person building the doll.

[shrugs] Harumatsu... Nameless... is going to look a bit like Fujiwara no Sai, though that wasn't my intention. I wanted him to look like my Eclipse, Sparrow... I wouldn't be upset if someone came along with a doll specificly designed to be Sai. Sai doesn't belong to me. That's the end of the story as far as I'm concerned, no matter how much material change building the character takes.

 

The only trouble with calling him Matsu is lingering memories of Legend of the Five Rings (a tabletop RPG that my crew has played quite a lot of-). The Matsu are are one of the Lion Clan families... Having played a Matsu PC for awhile, I think it would be hard to keep that character's personality from influencing Harumatsu's. Which would be weird since Matsu Marumi, the L5R character, was a very "girly" girl. O_o

 

Well thats not very masculine now is it O.o lol.. Well whatever harumatsu/Namless turns out to be, from the sounds of your ideas Im looking forward to watching him evolve with you ^_~ that much I know for sure, and In the end, Im sure you'll make all the right choices for you and him ^_^

I just like Matsu.. It ends in U which sounds like moo, or Muu in the case.. Er me and my feance Muu at each other LOL.. >,< we're So weird! But it all comes down to my Pink NeoPets Kau named Moorece ^_~ Chu Puu puu Muu!! gah! Cute noises Nyo!! X3 LMAO

Ok enough thread hijacking and Ots hehehe...

*scuttles back to work.. even though she dosnt feel like working today*

/Violet

 

Apparently there's at least one other Matsu on the board, too... [laughs]
I'm sure we'll come up with something, though.

Or... he might turn out to be the formal type, who wants nothing to do with nicknames.

 

hmmm...difficult, on one hand I'd be flattered but on the other hand I'd be thinking that this person needs to come up with a doll with his/her own personality.

About someone using the same name as Kaoru...I really do not mind, because I also took Kaorus name from another Kaoru and wanting to own a Daisuke and Toshiya...names that I have already seen here on this forum.

Same with photostories/shoots.
When someone takes a long time to come up with these things, shoots/posts them here/lj/etc and some time later sees a shoot almost the same as theirs...that would be kinda like a rip-off, right?

I saw it to when Leechy got Luciel, a lot of people called their doll something with Luciel in it or close to it.
And there was a large wave of new Els in that time as well that hit DoA...

So when someone would copy Kaoru unintentionally in every way possible it would be funny but intentionally [same doll, clothing style, photos, etc] I don't think I would like it because I would feel like there was a fake twin of Kaoru around...a copycat.
But I can't stop people who would do that...it would sound horrible wrong to PM this person and demand that they'd rename and re-image their boy...so I'd just ignore this person.

But thank heavens that Kaoru hasn't been copied yet and good luck to the people who'll try it because Kaoru is a one of a kind brat...but still he is my brat

Sabriell

PS I'm not trying to attack people this is just my own opinion

 

is a boy, actually.

 

It depends on the ammount of copying going on. I wouldn't mind a doll with a similar faceup and style to my dolls. (though honestly i don't think i've ever seen another Unoa that looks even remotely like Snow... I wonder if that's a bad thing...) I mean, i made my dolls look the way they look because that's what makes me happy with them, and if someone else did the same well... who cares?

 

I paint my dolls by myself and I think, that they look rather unusal. my Kun doesen't look like Kun almost at all, she's modified and painted in not_Kun way. my Narae also doesen't have "traditional" Narae look. she has weird eyebrows and lips,that suit rather Unoa. one way or another, I've never seen dolls that look similar to mine and I'm happy with it. and to be honest, I would prefere them to stay one of a kind
now I'm waiting for my Lusis and to be honest I have no idea of her look as for now. I think,that is rather hard to make a really oryginal Unoa, because their "standard" look is just cute
my next doll will be MSD F-09 in white skin, with dark eyes and carrot hair. I haven't seen a doll like this as for now^^

 

can you post her photos? I would really love to see an oryginal Unos, as long as almost every of them looks this same ^^

 

There's nothing new under the sun... I've been accused of copying someone's face ups before, and I'd never seen a picture of the person's dolls up close, only blurry group shots. o.o

That incident has made me sensitive to calling people copy cats, because it probably isn't intentional although possibly subconscious.

Ghaleon is a sleeping shiwoo elf head. I'm his original owner and I opened his eyes myself. But he looks a lot like the dreaming vampire head tha luts later released. At first I was miffed, as if it made Ghaleon less special. But in the end I calmed down and realized that it doesn't matter. Ghaleon IS one of a kind because he's mine and I've customized him myself. :3 I don't know if that really makes sense. XD

 

I have some vague plans to make my ShinB look like the character "Delirium" from the Sandman comics. Hey! I said it first! It's my idea! If anyone else does it now, they're copying me!:p
ops: Just kidding. Of course they're not copying. Actually, if I saw a Delirium character pop up in the Gallery one day, I'd think it would be neat to see their interpretation of the same character. The only thing that would make me mad is if I decided to do the same character later on, and got a nasty message from them that accused ME of copying THEM! Ack! :-?
Yah ... you might as well say that all the Harry Potter dolls out there are all people who are copying each other. Of course they're not. That's silly. They're all just worshipping the author, J.K. Rowling, in their own way.

I have more thoughts on people who accuse others of copying their faceup (face paint) styles. What the hell? There really aren't that many variations of faceup styles. Freckles or no freckles, brown around the eyes or black, dark lips or light lips. Well, it's all pretty much just variations on those basic themes, isn't it?

I wouldn't want to see two of the same TYPE of doll with the exact same customized faceup. But I feel that if it's two different types of doll, then a similarity in faceup style is not only ok, but it's to be expected. It doesn't mean one person is copying the other. It just means two people happen to have the same taste in faceups. The similarity is more often than not just coincidence.
:-)

 

Haha ^^;; I'm a boy too btw!

But yeah, I mean if someone else did do Remus, Sirius, James, Peter, Snape, and Lily... I would be peeved, but I know I couldn't stay angry at them because as ViolentViolet said, they are not MY characters. But, these are book characters, so my image of them is what I like to think... unique. So if someone else made a Remus doll and it looked JUST like my Remus doll, even the same mold, face-up, etc. Then... yeah D:

But still, not my original character (though I do have HP original characters that are just in the HP universe), so I can't be all "OMG YOU CAN'T DO REMUS CAUSE I DID HIM FIRST" I don't have that right. But I'm not going to lie and say I won't be rather aggitated ^^;

 

That's not an original idea, either. Ever since I saw pics of Dollmore's Eve with the tips of those long ears sticking out of her wig and the different ear customizations other DoA users have done, I've been wondering how hard it would be to make PE ears. I don't think I'd actually ever do it, but it would be awesome to have a Luse doll - especially with all those piercings in his ears!

It sounds like exactly the same thing as the Rune doll.... :cow

And it's GREAT to see another PE fan! I've never bumped into another one, before.

 

I thin inspiration can be a tricky thing. I love the way Rinlocke (forgotten the owners name) looks (hes a tender too) and if I met a guy like that i'd probably swoon....
But my Too has a different personality-he might suit dark hair, but in my heart he's a cheeky little blonde with rosy lips and big blue eyes.

If someone copied the clothes Id hand-made, id try to see the flattering side. If they made them to sell, id be pissed off....

 

That's very kind of you! (Rinlocke is my boy XD), but I'm also very interested in this topic because I was inspired to created Rinlocke through another image.

http://www.rinlocke.net/bjd/misc/ha050510-06.jpg

I would have never gone through with it otherwise. ^///^ Thank you random person I found in a Chinese (?) message board ages ago. @_@

So I dont mind if people try to copy Rinlocke's idea or image, as long as they dont steal his story. :P I know I've inspired a few people with the way I abuse styling his wigs, and I love to hear that other owners are trying new things because of that. ^_^;