Do you consider Dollfie Dream to be a BJD?

that's just a simple pose to show the poseability. normally, it's nothing like that.

 

to me, as long as there are ball joints present, rather skeleton or strung up, it's a BJD.

 

I consider them just as much dolls, but I don't think I'd ever own one myself. I'm not a huge anime fan and I prefer my girls and boys to look a little more realistic. But I still think they're just as lovely as any BJD.

 

I do think they are..look at the ball joints..and besides..their face looks like Volks SD..only..their eyes are different..
And I do hope everyone will accept (or at least tolerate) DD..>.<..

And yes I've found that DDs are not so popular here..and..sometimes..people outside of DoA think that DDs are some..old man toys..xDD...especially the dynamite..if you know what I meant.

 

I agree, I have a Dolfie Dream (only actual 1/3 scale Volks doll I have- I have several 1/6 scale ones and Obitsu's 1/6 scale ones too) and several bigger Obitsu ones- three 60cm, one 55m, one 50cm and am planning on getting one of the new 65cm ones. I include them in the count of my around 40 ABJ doll counts. (My 1/6 scale ones I tend not to think of that way as much, I guess because they are so close to fashion doll size and are more like what I think of figures rather dolls- they are pretty fragile, have neither string or inner skeleton, etc...)

 

It wouldn't make much difference to me either way because I'm not very fond of them. However, it looks to have ball joints, so it's a BJD as far as I'm concerned.

 

Personally, I've considered a "BJD" to be a doll made of resin that moves on ball-sockets and elastic tension.
Although I question whether they are on topic, I have no problem with Dollfie Dreams or their owners.
But if you look at it in the literal sense, being that a "ball jointed doll" is any doll with "ball joints" no matter what material or mechanism they are, then DDs are totally BJDs. Maybe not entirely on topic here, since I've seen vinyl dolls often counted off, but in general they could count as BJDs.

 

Having a DD and SD side by side, except for the face most people wouldnt be able to tell the difference.
I think the issue here is that people view the DD as not a BJD just because their facial style leans less towards anime.
Plop on a different head and you could fool anyone.. maybe

 

I was Wondering about how BJD owners feel about Volks DD and Obitsu dolls since there skeleton based instead of elastic cord , to me they are truly on ball type joints but i was looking for others view points.
so
Do you consider Dollfie Dreams and Obitsu BJD's.

If NO what would you say they are?

I own a DD Dy currently and My daughter owns "string type" dolls and we agree they are very different ,but it seems there is some controversy in the doll community about the difference. I just want to collect some views without spared feeling.

<--dd skeleton <--"string type"

I apologize in advance if the words String type offend you , i just dont have any better words to describe that dolls system of assembly.

 

Volks doesn't considered the DD as BJD. The DD were "grandfathered" in, I believe the earlier ones were strung ed (not sure)

 

They are ball jointed dolls, they just have a different jointing system than a majority of dolls. Granted, they are different, but they are made with the same purposes in mind, but the two acheive the same thing in a very different way. So, yes, I beleive them to be BJDs, though I prefer my "string types"

 

They certainly are different! But ball joints don't necessarily have to go along with stringing, so I'd say sure a doll can be ball jointed without being strung. And it is true that the first DD bodies were in fact strung, but I hear that the internal skeleton offers much better posing ability. ^_^

For the purposes of this forum, they would currently not meet on-topic criteria, but were grandfathered in as they were being discussed on DOA back when it was just a Yahoo Group and there was no need for such specific on-topic requirements.

I'd say it is helpful to remember that the normal idea we have of BJD's on this forum -- resin, strung, with changeable eyes/wig, etc -- does not encompass all types of BJD's. ^^

 

The first DDs had a stringing system much like BJDs but because it was made of vinyl and not resin could not pose properly. Volks later introduced the internal skeleton and phased out the stringing.

 

From VolksUSA's Sumika Times Blog:

http://site.volksusa.com/sumikatimes/2010/11/10/whats-the-difference-between-sd-dd/

So yea if Volks doesn't consider their DD to be BJDs I don't either.
I have 1/6 scale vinyl Obitsu's and Azone dolls and I really consider them separate from my BJDs. Just a different type of doll collecting.
I don't think it really matters though. I just consider them in a Vinyl dolls category I guess.

 

Most 1/3 scale Obitsu heads are as realistic as most resin heads. Plenty of people use Obitsu heads on resin bodies, in fact. My Sakura is an old style Customhouse Ai body with an Obitsu Haruka head. There are resin heads that look a lot more "anime" style than Obitsu's Haruka head, including Volk's SD and MSD resin heads.

 

While I absolutely love Dollfie Dreams, I don't think they're technically BJDs as most people think of them. They don't have the elastic....

However, they do have ball-joints, and they are about the size as a SD doll, so they are definitely worth discussing and paying attention to.

I definitely want to buy a DD when I'm in Japan, they're adorable.

But they do have anime faces, and aren't resin. They don't have elastic, so I don't think they are a BJD that should be discussed in these forums... They're very unique -- they deserve their OWN forums

 

Hmmmmm, i wonder if they know that the doll's hands are on backwards in that pic? LOL

 

I would call them BJD´s and yes, ok they are not strung with an elastic but they are pretty much the same.........are Obitsus BJD´s?

 

Although I find DD very anime-like and quite different than other BJD sculpts/molds or company dolls
I consider them ball-jointed dolls (BJD) as they have the main characteristic of the said doll, they have ball-joints... ^^

 

I guess I count DD as a BJD, I mean they have ball joints and they are a doll. Right? Sure they aren't made of resin and have elastics, but back to the basic meaning of "BJD" they are one IMO :]