Do you feel that you should pretend to love dolls that you don’t?

In all my hobbies, I love nothing more than a good talk about the pros and con as well as the positives and negatives. It's nice when people actually put thought into something, even just as to why they like something or not. I wouldn't post on someones doll opening "Oh, I think that mould is so ugly!" but I don't feel the need to pretend to like every mould. That would feel rather.. superficial I guess?

 

If you don't have anything nice to say...

Seriously though, if I don't like it, I don't comment about it. I don't pretend to like it, and I give an honest opinion if asked directly, but I wouldn't just volunteer a negative reaction. It's not coo. :/

 

i am a person who rather wants an unpopular and unique doll, of course i still wanna find it pretty (and not mod it to unrecognizeness). i was about to order a dollzone mo but seeing that almost everyone in the dz thread has a mo i lost a bit interest in it. so basically i would never go for the most popular doll, and therefore i understand if other ppl dislike my doll or dont find it as appealing as i do. i have seen many dolls that i dont find pretty, but i never commented it because i think everyone has his/her own tastes and its not really nice to say "your doll isnt pretty". such a direct comment would bother me as well, but im fine if ppl dislike the factory of my doll or something, since there are many factories i dislike as well because their molds arent appealing to me at all. i would get a bit hurt and angry if someone would tell me that specifically my doll is ugly, because it would also be an insult towards my tastes. i think ppl shouldnt judge the taste of others like that. also theres a difference if you dislike a factory mold, or the customized doll of someone. because i think every dollowner puts a lot of thought in the wig, eyes, clothes etc.

 

Would you mind if someone said they were not into a doll you happened to own? (please, I am not looking for examples of one weirdo telling you to your face that your doll was horrible, anyone would hate that!)

I own Dollzones so... To paraphrase Dr Frank~N~Furter "I didn't buy him for you."

Actually I had my favorite DZ mini with me and and someone I met knew about dolls but was surprised he was a DZ. Now even I will admit the Recalls are funny looking and bonding isn't that easy with mine. In my past status symbol dolls were used to exclude me from things so I will never do that to anyone else. I'd rather see a doll stained, chipped, discolored from age and exposure, and with half it's face loved off then looking museum perfect and lonely.

 

So if we were in a store and i said i like a forest green hat, and you like the checkered pink hat, and i say "I dont really like the checkered pink one." You would be offended? Or would you just shrug it off and get the hat anyways? Could we still live in harmony if we didnt like eachother's hats?

 

I love you xD. I dont think some people would like some of my dolls, but hey, I love them all

 

I, probably along with a few others really dont like NotDoll. I feel comfortable saying this, but I also appreciate that others love them!

edit: Ok, some of their new ones are ok.

 

It's nice to see I'm not the only one who formulates analogies with hats

I sometimes do feel I should pretend to love dolls I don't like when talking to certain people who are over-sensitive about their dolls. But I very rarely meet these kinds of people, and they're usually like that about everything so I'm pretty careful with what I say in all aspects

However, if I make a generalised statement I am always willing (and happy) to go back on it and say there are exceptions.

I my DZ ^_^

 

So the questions are:
-On the DOA boards where discussion and debates are the norm, do you feel that it is acceptable and safe to express dislike for a doll or doll company?

I generally only have strong feelings about dolls I like. My feelings about dolls I don't like aren't really motivating enough to me to write about. Also In my opinion, there aren't that many places on DOA where it is appropriate for people to put negative comments. Why post negative comments in a thread where someone has posted pictures of their own doll or that is full of people excitedly waiting for their doll to arrive? That tantamount to trolling, really.

-Do you find that DOA members are overly sensitive to someone not liking their doll? Or do you totally understand the offended party and think people should only say good things on DOA about all dolls.
Nobody wants someone to come along and dismiss their creative efforts. People on this board put a lot of work and money into buying, dressing and photographing their dolls.

-Are you willing to admit that you don’t like a doll on the DOA board? I don’t mean in a thread where someone is showing off their particular doll. More like in a thread where people are discussing companies or aesthetics. It would be awkward to drop into someone’s thread just to tell them their doll was not to your liking wow.

In an appropriate thread, I feel no problem with discussing my tastes.

-Would you mind if someone said they were not into a doll you happened to own? (please, I am not looking for examples of one weirdo telling you to your face that your doll was horrible, anyone would hate that!)

In general, no.

-Do you find that you can’t help but feel offended/attacked/defensive when someone does not approve of a doll you happen to own? If so why?

Sometimes, a little. Especially if their lack of approval has nothing to do with the aesthetics of the doll --- issues like price, country of origin, gender, size. When someone voices strong opinions on those issues, I get defensive because the arguments seem so immature. I guess it brings out the immature in me.

-Have you ever thought that you over reacted in the forum to someone expressing dislike of a doll you happen to own? If so what was it that made you so mad?

I did on another board. I get a certain amount of shit for having a 60/40 couple and I overreacted to it once.

-If you are someone who does get defensive do you feel totally justified when you are mad? If so why? no, I feel guilty when I get mad.

-If someone dislikes a doll you happen to own do you try to convince that person that the doll is beautiful! If so why? No

 

There are two makes/brands of dolls that I really really dislike, mostly because of the facemolds which I find really very very unattractive, but also one of the brands has really ugly hands too, something which regularly would put me off a doll. However, I've heard other people raving over them.

I'd never pretend to love them, I'd find that really difficult, but if I were confronted by one with its owner (which is highly unlikely where I live I think) I'd prefer to just find something that I could compliment, rather than to pretend to love the doll....ie nice wig/pretty outfit....I know its too faced but on the one hand I just couldn't hurt the owners feelings but nor could I lie about loving the doll.

Fortunately for me, both brands of dolls are off topic on this forum!!!

One of my favourite sayings is "Least said, soonest mended" and I think in this case it would be the best advice for me!!!

 

-On the DOA boards where discussion and debates are the norm, do you feel that it is acceptable and safe to express dislike for a doll or doll company?
Well if it's for a debate I wouldn't exactly do that but it's acceptable, it IS a debate after all where other peoples opinions and stuff should lie XD

-Do you find that DOA members are overly sensitive to someone not liking their doll? Or do you totally understand the offended party and think people should only say good things on DOA about all dolls.
When I was younger, I would have assumed I understood the defending party cause my temper was horrid that time but when it comes to a then and now kind of thing, when I see an overly TLDR post on defending their post, then I think it's over reacting.
When I see someone use bad words and try to INSULT the other person's doll too, I think that's over reacting.
When there are some post when they protect their doll, it can be over reaction.
Other than that maybe no?

-Are you willing to admit that you don’t like a doll on the DOA board? I don’t mean in a thread where someone is showing off their particular doll. More like in a thread where people are discussing companies or aesthetics. It would be awkward to drop into someone’s thread just to tell them their doll was not to your liking wow.
Depends on what the thread is about.

-Would you mind if someone said they were not into a doll you happened to own? (please, I am not looking for examples of one weirdo telling you to your face that your doll was horrible, anyone would hate that!)
Well if the insult was just a "Your dolls sucks/is ugly" kind of comment I wouldn't be offended XD.
But in my honest opinion it would really actually be based on what the topic is. If it just so happens to be a conversation on a company and you mention this doll from that company, when someone says that doll is ugly I just fall silent. XD

-Do you find that you can’t help but feel offended/attacked/defensive when someone does not approve of a doll you happen to own? If so why?
Well last time I would be super offended. But now because I am still a little emotional and stuff, I would feel offended if it were someone I knew well.

-Have you ever thought that you over reacted in the forum to someone expressing dislike of a doll you happen to own? If so what was it that made you so mad?
Never really happened for me XD

-If you are someone who does get defensive do you feel totally justified when you are mad? If so why?
Don't understand the question, sorry

-If someone dislikes a doll you happen to own do you try to convince that person that the doll is beautiful! If so why?
Well no, every person has a different opinion but sometimes I think to myself. "Keep those to yourself please" if it was an overly rude comment on a non-debatable forum. Other than that, no.

 

First off all i dont think that (outside off pretend play, which can be al lot off fun) no one should ever pretend anything. I like open agenda's.

But why should you? I have clicked open threads a couple of time where i did not like the mold, and other people where gleeing and squeeing about it. Why should i post a comment about it?

And if you want to leave a comment, you can always try to leave a decent comment.

 

I don't have the time to properly enjoy this trainwreck so I'll just say:

I'm WAAAY past the age I need to pretend to like anything. And I never was much of a "joiner" when I was younger anyway.

There are several companies that don't do anything for me personally, and a couple I think are downright ugly. But someone else likes them so I will be nice to them and enjoy their enjoyment of their doll.

 

-On the DOA boards where discussion and debates are the norm, do you feel that it is acceptable and safe to express dislike for a doll or doll company?

You're kidding here, right?Have you seen the HATE that comes from saying you don't like a company? I got resoundly bashed for saying that Volks were overrated and over priced. Oh, and let's NOT forget the mod who said I was the reason disclaimers exist because I don't care for the practice of doll companies provided the price for a BLANK doll next to a pic of a much more expensive, completely made doll. Yeah, different opinions her get a LOT of love.

-Do you find that DOA members are overly sensitive to someone not liking their doll? Or do you totally understand the offended party and think people should only say good things on DOA about all dolls.

Yup, and I admit to doing a bit of overreacting mself.

-Are you willing to admit that you don’t like a doll on the DOA board? I don’t mean in a thread where someone is showing off their particular doll. More like in a thread where people are discussing companies or aesthetics. It would be awkward to drop into someone’s thread just to tell them their doll was not to your liking wow.

In general I may say, I don't really care for X doll but you have done a great job with such and such part of it. Or I really like her shoes, that's great lighting. But honestly, I not in the habit of hunting up pics of dolls I don't like anyway.

-Would you mind if someone said they were not into a doll you happened to own? (please, I am not looking for examples of one weirdo telling you to your face that your doll was horrible, anyone would hate that!)

Nope, I have a good friend on here who, though she likes my dollzones, says DZ's look doesn't appeal to her. Shrug that's okay

-Do you find that you can’t help but feel offended/attacked/defensive when someone does not approve of a doll you happen to own? If so why?

Hmmm, nah. As was already stated, I didn't buy them for you

-Have you ever thought that you over reacted in the forum to someone expressing dislike of a doll you happen to own? If so what was it that made you so mad?

Not yet, or not that I remember....

-If you are someone who does get defensive do you feel totally justified when you are mad? If so why?

Oh yes, I'm always justified in my anger

-If someone dislikes a doll you happen to own do you try to convince that person that the doll is beautiful! If so why?

Why bother, it's like teaching a fish to sing: it just wastes your time and pisses off the fish.

 

That was actually... not a mod. That was JennyNemesis, who is just a regular member.

 

Then I stand corrected but I was certain a mod also said it.

 

Do I feel I should pretend to like certain dolls when I don't?

No. Not even a little bit.

I think the key thing is that usually, when I see a doll I don't like, I just don't say anything. If someone asked me directly, though, I wouldn't lie and say I liked it. There are some dolls that are either moulds I don't like, or they are face-upped or dressed in ways I don't like. I would never tell their owners to change them, because this is a very personal hobby and we all like different things, but I am entitled to my opinion, and I don't think lying about how you feel is right.

 

-On the DOA boards where discussion and debates are the norm, do you feel that it is acceptable and safe to express dislike for a doll or doll company?

In the discussions I am always happy to post an honest answer, but I am never rude about any doll since some poor soul somewhere has taken the time to scupt it - and frankly even the worst doll ever is beyond my current sculpting abilities (as a model horse sculptor I can say this with some knowledge ) I will phrase my comment such as 'well I like the set of the lips but I'm not so keen on the really wide eyes'

-Do you find that DOA members are overly sensitive to someone not liking their doll? Or do you totally understand the offended party and think people should only say good things on DOA about all dolls.

I personally have never upset anyone so far as I know, and no one has upset me - but then I'm old enough to let any daft comments wash over me. I think really rude comments that I've heard about say far more about the person saying them than the doll they were said about - if that makes sense.

-Are you willing to admit that you don’t like a doll on the DOA board? I don’t mean in a thread where someone is showing off their particular doll. More like in a thread where people are discussing companies or aesthetics. It would be awkward to drop into someone’s thread just to tell them their doll was not to your liking wow.

I'll say I am not keen on the doll, it would take a lot for me to 'hate' a doll - I'm well aware that someone somewhere is going to think the doll I dislike is their pride and joy, and that's how it should be. Different sculpts work for different people, as do different faceups. Even faceups I personally don't much care for I can find something in the technique or rendition to be impressed by - even if it's just the choice of colour.

-Would you mind if someone said they were not into a doll you happened to own? (please, I am not looking for examples of one weirdo telling you to your face that your doll was horrible, anyone would hate that!)

No way, again I'm old enough to take the crit as what it is, a personal opinion. My experience is good on this front tho, I've only ever got really nice comments about my dolls, including ones such as 'oh I am not keen on that mould but your girl is beautiful' which I love as it means that I've done a good job on faceup and dress - someone has looked twice at a sculpt they previously disliked - <warm fuzzies>

-Do you find that you can&#8217;t help but feel offended/attacked/defensive when someone does not approve of a doll you happen to own? If so why?

I may have about one nanosecond of 'aw that's a shame as I love mine' but that's it, again there are sculpts for everyone and how boring would it be if we all had dolls that looked the same?

-Have you ever thought that you over reacted in the forum to someone expressing dislike of a doll you happen to own? If so what was it that made you so mad?

Never - and unless that person was incredibly rude - in which case if I was feeling thataway inclined I would be more likely to pick them up for rudeness rather than having and opinion that is not the same as mine.

-If you are someone who does get defensive do you feel totally justified when you are mad? If so why?

I get defensive about stuipidity, lack of manners and general silly behaviour but unless directed at me, and specifically nasty I'll just ignore the problem.

-If someone dislikes a doll you happen to own do you try to convince that person that the doll is beautiful! If so why?

Nope, they have their opinion and their taste in dolls and clothing is probably vastly different to mine. That's human nature

 

-On the DOA boards where discussion and debates are the norm, do you feel that it is acceptable and safe to express dislike for a doll or doll company?
Why wouldn't I feel safe? Is someone going to come to my house, and beat the hell out of me because I don't like a certain doll? There's a sense of anonymity involved in the forums, so of course I'd feel safe. Acceptable, however... it entirely depends on how its phrased, and where it's said.

-Do you find that DOA members are overly sensitive to someone not liking their doll? Or do you totally understand the offended party and think people should only say good things on DOA about all dolls.
I understand, mostly. If someone told me they didn't like my doll, I'd be a bit hurt, though really, it wouldn't bother me. I mean, if you don't want to see my doll, simply don't look. If someone goes off the deep end because someone says they don't like a certain model, then yeah... that'd be overly sensitive.

-Are you willing to admit that you don&#8217;t like a doll on the DOA board? I don&#8217;t mean in a thread where someone is showing off their particular doll. More like in a thread where people are discussing companies or aesthetics. It would be awkward to drop into someone&#8217;s thread just to tell them their doll was not to your liking wow.
Sure. I'd never go into someones gallery thread and say "I don't like this mold." In a discussion thread, sure. In that case, I'd probably say what it was I didn't like.

-Would you mind if someone said they were not into a doll you happened to own?
I'm pretty sure that not everyone likes the DM kid Pado, but really, if they said so, I wouldn't mind. Not every mold is aesthetically pleasing to everyone.

-Do you find that you can&#8217;t help but feel offended/attacked/defensive when someone does not approve of a doll you happen to own? If so why?
Not really. Well, I kinda can't say cause I haven't seen anyone downing a doll I own, but hey. I don't think I'd feel too defensive.

-Have you ever thought that you over reacted in the forum to someone expressing dislike of a doll you happen to own? If so what was it that made you so mad?
Naw... I don't really =react= much on the forums o.o

-If someone dislikes a doll you happen to own do you try to convince that person that the doll is beautiful! If so why?
Naww... like I said, my doll may not be someone elses cup of tea. I might love it, but not everyone else has to. ...I think I'm too passive o.o