Does your doll "smoke"? Why?

I suspect several of mine smoke, I just haven't caught them at it yet. Most of mine drink too. Some, if not all, have what could be considered seriously questionable moral standards when it comes to relationships and dealing with people, at least by a lot of people's standards. Then again, since they aren't mortal, many of their characters aren't mortal and they don't go round killing people or harming anyone I fail to see why it should be such a point of contention.

Like Topazrain and Taco, whilst I might have the initial idea for a character, they take on a life of their own after a while. Trying to impose what I want on them either doesn't work or it 'squashes' their character to the point that they stop 'talking' to me and I am left with just a doll instead of an avatar. (Can we start a debate thread on this? It may not be about resin itself but it is about how we interact with our dolls, our attitudes to them and I am always fascinated by the differences in people's creative processes. If not, and it gets taken to a blog can someone PM me a link please?)

Do my dolls smoke and if so why? I suspect so, because that's the way their characters have manifested.

Do they smoke because I do? No, because they do.

Do I think it makes my doll look bad-ass and cool? No, but they might. More likely they just don't give a damn whether anyone thinks they look cool or not they just smoke because they want to.

If you choose to exclude real smoking from your life, that's your choice. If you choose to exclude fictional smoking from your life, that too is your choice. I'll try to remember to put a warning on any smoking pics I post so as not to offend. Just please don't offend me by assuming that any doll owner who has a smoker as a character is ignorant of the dangers of real smoking or offend me by being judgmental of me as an individual because my creativity doesn't conform to your ideas on the matter. After all, I don't judge you or your dolls because they don't smoke.

Not every owner of a cross-dressing/gay/addicted/self-harming/contract-killing/demonic/angelic/promiscuous/elven/vampiric etc. doll has those tendencies in their personality. Sometimes a character can be a way of exploring ideas and concepts that we shy away from in the real world.

In fact sunbathing is far more dangerous for them than a toy cigarette, maybe we should disapprove of tan resin dolls that aren't of a darker skinned ethnic background or non-human?... Sunbathing can cause skin cancer in real life as well as yellowing in a doll and if we shouldn't show our dolls doing something that could harm us...

 

I used to smoke many years ago...none of my dolls currently smoke, but I would not be judgemental if they did. I think that you should be able to do whatever makes you and your dolllies happy! Besides, there SHOULD NOT ACTUALLY BE SECOND HAND SMOKE COMING FROM YOUR DOLLS, please tell me that no one out there has tried THAT!!! Anyway, there is alot of support for them should they decide to quit, any pix of dolls with niccotine patches/gum out there? Have fun people!!!

 

Hey character curious, we have a debate thread Playing God: Who controls the BJD characters we create?. I just hope it stays on-topic enough not to get shut down!

As for on-topic here? Dollies still don't smoke

 

If I ever make a character for a doll that smoke, he or she will smoke, whether or not it's coo. personally I hate smoking, smokers, cigarettes and everything that has to do with it, since it has caused my asthma to go nuts and is rapidly getting worse right now (My mom has been smoking lots more these last years, which is why the asthma got nuts in the first place). But just because I hate it doesn't mean I won't make a doll a smoker, if it's what's needed. In the world today you will meet smokers everyday and having dolls that smokes is just being aware of the reality.

 

My boy isnt here yet, but he does not smoke. I'm strictly against smoking myself and I wont let his character to be smoker. I dont even have friends who smoke and try to avoid places where i might bump into smoking people

 

Does your doll smoke? My boy smokes, and most of the other dolls I plan on getting will.
If so, why? It just seemed to fit his character. He is an insecure, teenager that wants to fit in. In my high school, most of the kids smoke, so if you want to fit in, you take up smoking.
Does your doll smoke because you do? No
Or because you simply think it makes your doll look bad-ass and cool (FSVO)? I think he looks BA with a cigarette, but that is not why he smoke

 

LOLOL

i do not think smoking is cool.
I am allergic to something they mix into sig tabac. So..not at all.

But smoking is a sign of being careless... so that's why it may fit a character.

I have 2 doll characters that smoke.

Taylor, who is a mom and wife.. OMG i have a family doll..
Smokes.. and hates it.
When i started her oc.. she smoked.. and she ended up getting married to her smoke buddy... of all people.
Now they adopted 2 kids shes trying like crazy to stop.. but when she does she drinks to much coffee... in the end.. she simply fails.

My other is my Narae 60.
[have her complete character and looks worked out..but no name so far]

She doesn't smoke smoke..
she knows this little shop where a lady makes cigs with candy/sweet/fruity tastes.
And if she brings out a new taste she likes to try...
+ she likes to walk around with bright colored things stuck between her lips..
and lollipops get boring.

 

In the end the character I made for my doll is more likely to smoke than not to. I have friends with personalities somewhat similar to the character of my (future doll), sometimes I look at the things they do and it makes no sense to me until I consider who they are and how they are very different from me. But in the end I either accept them or I don't. If i didn't accept them simply because happened to have a bad habit (which is what I see smoking as) I would be missing out on a lot.

I made up my character, sort of. . . but not completely. If I sat down and spelt out everything, it would end up being a very stiff, ungrowing character. The base character was created by me, but then I think about things . . . and how would a character like this react in this situation . . . realistically, unless the character is based off my personality, they would react differently than I would. Maybe their world views don't match mine completely, if I made them believe the way I did, they wouldn't be the character I originally made and fell in love with.

 

I can't smoke, (I'm 15) and I don't want to smoke ever, but my doll smokes because it's her personality... plus she's a Victorian era girl and it was okay to smoke then... not for women maybe, but that's why she does it

 

Well, I don't smoke myself (I quit a while back) so if I found out that any of my dolls were smoking then I'd have to batter them lol. Just as I would do if I found out my younger bro was doing so. It's a horrid habit (I don't need my dolls flaunting it in my face that they can smoke an I can't). Besides, none of my dolls have a reason to smoke, as it's not a part of their character...

 

I don't smoke. The smell really bothers me and I am aware of all the health risks. My mother smokes like a chimney though. Haha. Anyway, I think my Lucifer will be a smoker when I get him. It just fits his character and is something he would do (and does do in the short story I wrote about him). I don't have to worry about second hand smoke, obviously, because the cigarettes are fake. So, what's the problem? Maybe he's eating a candy cigarette (wee, childhood memories), and not actually smoking (his character would do that as well)? ^_^

 

My doll do not smoke. If they ever started I would ground them.

 

This thread is rocking my world and I'm loving reading the range of answers everyone is giving and the responses those answers are pulling out of others. Freakin' fascinating...

I used to be a smoker but not so much anymore. I smoke a cig about 8 times a year in times of crazed stress. I think cigs are pretty stinky, damn unhealthy (one of my uncles died from lung cancer) and they taste pretty foul unless you're spending ten bucks a pack on the real expensive brands with crazy flavors and what not.

That said, 2 of dreamlette creatures do smoke, Agneshka and Mallick. Somehow it just seems fitting for these two little rebels. Especially Agneshka who is a Soom Doll Gena/Smoky Day. When I first fell in love with her it was her smoking pic on the Soom site that captured me. She's all dark make up, bedroom eyes, a black slip dress, fishnets, a sexy little hat and cig hanging out of her mouth. This totally floored me because it seemed far more common at the time to see dolls portrayed in a rather sterile/angelic fashion. And here was Gena Smoky Day looking like a cabaret/burlesque dancer with some stories to tell that were far from PG13.

It inspired me and set my mind thinking down a completely different path. Hence, in the fiction my dolls have inspired me to write (the fantasy/steampunk variety) Mallick and Agneshka are my little devil's advocates, with -as Moulin put it so well- "seriously questionable moral standards", lmao. If they each looked like they were 5 years old things would be different. I would not portray a child smoking a cig despite being a resident of the south (lol). But they are not children. They have vices, they have flaws. They are a consort and a courtisan. They curse, they drink alcohol, they spark up, they carouse, they rabbelrouse and cause trouble. They've been through hell (in their detailed back stories) and hence they are not perfect. Just like people are not perfect, don't always eat the right food or fit neatly into the moral mold set forth by the ruling body...and I love it. I may love my dolls even more so for the imperfections and freaky-ness I've projected onto them that make them seem all the more alive to me.

Do I think a doll -or any character for that matter-- portrayed as a smoker is somehow encouraging smoking? Not at all. No more than I think a movie about a murder is telling people to go out and kill. Do my dolls smoke in order to look "cool" or "bad ass"? Nope. My feelings are they that they do what they want because they want to...not to project some idea of "cool" for others. They also aren't necessarily portrayed as your average everyday humans with human longevity or health concerns either.

If you're the kind of person that is easily influenced or offened by certain visuals then you probably just need to censor the stimuli you take in. You've got that choice.

But I really like the way topazrain put this.
"Be offended, it's art. Its purpose is to move you."

 

I would never pose my dolls with cigarettes because to me, it's very symbolic of something that can kill you. My mother was a heavy smoker and died from lung cancer. That isn't cool.

 

IRL I really hate cigarettes - I just can't stand the smell and bitch at people who smoke without being considerate of the ones around them. Also, I think it's pretty lame to waste your money on something you're going to burn. o.o
Most smokers I know smoke to be a part of something, you know? Like at school the smokers will go out during breaks and smoke together and chat and stuff... so people that have trouble making friends might find some this way.
Still stupid.

In movies or pictures though, imho, if used right, they can give a character something badass xD
And dolly cigarettes? They don't stink, they're not unhealthy for anyone (not that it would hurt a doll) so why not?

Still, my doll doesn't smoke because I tend to associate negative things with it. Wouldn't fit her character either.

Each to their own I guess.

 

I wonder if that is the appeal though. It appeals to several people I know because it represents freedom of choice-they are aware of the consequences, and it does symbolize death, in a way. They've accepted it, but are willing to take the risk because it's what they want the world to see them as-a freespirit or freethinker.

In all honesty, smoking scares me personally-it was the cause of the death of my great grandmother, my grandmother and my aunt. I personally dont endorse it-but I do agree that it raises interesting personal questions about just why that person chose that habit.

 

I've never smoked and probably never will, but I do have a character who smokes. If I ever made a doll of him, I would probably end up taking photographs of him smoking - not because I enjoy it, or because I support the tobacco industry, but because it's part of his character design. Even though he's my character, he doesn't always do things that I agree with.

 

That's very strange. Well, I guess that makes sense, in a way, but it's ironic... I'm personally quite biased due to my own experiences with it, but to me, smoking represents quite the opposite.

Smoking seems to me more of a chain, shackles to a person that they cannot overcome. The addiction is one that can hold power over even the strongest people, making itself a self-destructive need to those who are chained to it. And even when a person quits, it is still a constant, lifelong temptation... One that many people take, and then quit again, and then take again, and then quit again, and then take again... It's something that makes a person look weaker to me, because it's like 'Here's this thing, this terrible master, that you can't seem to break hold of... because you're not strong enough, even if you want to be, even if you need to be, and you might never be'. I guess for people who want to smoke and find it enjoyable, they wouldn't look to be in such a bad place, but it's something that you know, if they tried to quit, they would be the same... so it's just an invisible, looming threat, just sort of sitting over their shoulder.

So, it's not really just 'Oh, it's bad for you, health risks and all' that bother me, I guess... I really hate smoking, and dislike it very much to see smoking dolls. The depiction of smoking is not typically in the manner :point: like above, either, but tends to be more glorified, romanticized, to be cool, sexy, rebellious, laid back, etc.. I would never depict a doll smoking; I would burn money first, but I might write a story with a smoker. However, I would do so depicting smoking as the way I see it, like above. I would never give a 'cool' character a cigarette to make him 'cooler', not if he was supposed to be, well, a strong person. I feel smoking can hurt the people around you too (*biasbiasbias*) , so I view smoking as something that's also selfish... inconsiderate to the people around them. This isn't true all the time of course (*biasbiasbias*) , but it's also something I'd take into account if I ever wrote anything, and when I see depictions of smoking or people who smoke.

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If I had a doll it probably wouldn't smoke. I don't smoke myself-- no offense to anyone who does, it's your decision-- but I don't like smoking at all; I can't stand it and I don't think it's cool or anything.

 

My old F-27 smokes because he is an angsty teen and smoking is one of his ways of acting out.

I absolutely despise smoking, I have his character smoke because..it's in character for him. My F-15 wishes he would stop but it's not enough to convince him.