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Doll Nudity Warnings - Why?

Jun 20, 2008

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    1. I feel it is definitely needed as many people look at these forums in public settings.
      Besides that, I am for the common courtesy of warning in the title. It's never wasted to respect the feelings of your fellow human beings. :) Threads are not just for me myself and I, but for hundreds of members and non members with all different backgrounds and mindsets. I consider it good social skills to keep others' sensitivities in mind.

      Personally not so much bothered by nudity maybe, I am easily upset by aggressiveness for instance, or animals in stressful situations etc. Much as I'd appreciate warnings in those regards, I want to extend the same good behavior to others :)
       
      #241 tanjalalie, Feb 17, 2010
    2. If it's a general gallery or photostory thread, I appreciate a nudity warning just because I do spend most of my free time at work on here. As understanding and even interested as my boss may be... just not something I want to pull up on screen at work. At home I don't care otherwise.
       
      #242 Apricotkiss, Feb 18, 2010
    3. I prefer the warnings... XD Im 13 and its kinda awkward with siblings/parents around to click on a thread and see bare body parts. lol
       
      #243 Kurin, Feb 18, 2010
    4. I'd be offended if paintings/statues were covered up due to nudity, and get offended when someone tries to nanny me where nudity is concerned. Is society changing in a way that nudity in art will become taboo, or that galleries will impose 18+ admission fees?

      Nudity is everywhere - from the bathroom to the bedroom to media to advertising etc. I can't imagine how people offended by nudity get on with their everyday lives.
       
      #244 Freezeframe, Feb 18, 2010
    5. I think the warnings are fine for things like Gallery posts... But I don't think they're necessary for box opening threads.
      "Doll nudity" in a box opening thread is kind of a given. :sweat
       
      #245 Kuma Smash!, Feb 18, 2010
    6. Just wondering if people think it's better for their bosses etc to see bits of naked, plastic doll or a forum full of threads that read 'WARNING NUDITY' and have no indication it's a doll that's naked?
       
      #246 Gantaeno, Feb 18, 2010
    7. I giggled at the thought.

      But better yet, what are you doing looking at dolls at work? Have you finished that report for your boss? You know that thing is meant to be due today! Perish the thought you'd rather be looking at dolls than bringing bacon home! [​IMG]
       
      #247 Lord Gig, Feb 18, 2010
    8. I could sum this up for many in one easy word: Work. If they're at work skimming the gallery and a person is walking by and they see the naked doll out of the corner of their eye, they could easily mistake it for a real person and the person who was viewing said naked doll could get in a lot of trouble if someone accuses them of looking at pornography at work. It's for people's safety I think.
       
      #248 PenguinCheese, Feb 19, 2010
    9. I think it's unnecessary. Anyone who is hanging around a dollfie forum would definitely have seen doll nudity often(their own dolls, duh). If the sight offends them, they wouldn't start on this hobby.

      And for those viewing such threads at work:
      What are you doing surfing the net instead of pretending to be busy? :doh
       
      #249 Arcenciel, Feb 19, 2010
    10. Okay be ready for some heavy, heavy, sarcasm.

      The warning exist for this reason and this reason alone. We all know the library is a farce no body uses them. It is simply because we have younger people on here and if you expose them to nudity even artful nudity it melts girls faces off and turns boys gay. Beware the nudity it will kill and maim the youth! It also causes senior citizens to explode on seeing it!
       
      #250 light_hearted, Feb 19, 2010
    11. Because sometimes I have to work 16+ hours straight, without warning, and if I don't have something to keep me awake on my breaks I'll keel over and never get up. :| Seriously, what's with all the people in this thread being concerned over what other people are doing while at their jobs? If my boss doesn't mind me browsing the internet during my breaks, why should anyone else care?

      Nudity warnings are a common courtesy, especially when the nudity is featured in something that has artful posing or the like. No one at work cares if I'm looking at straight-on presentations of doll bodies (like in comparison threads) because I'm lucky enough to work with a mostly decent bunch of guys, and it's pretty clear that's a comparison of dolls, not anything sexual, but not everything is all clinical like that, and not everyone is lucky enough to have an understanding employer and coworkers. In the end, it comes down to the fact that it's one of the rules on this forum, and so we get to do it. Period.

       
      #251 Kiyakotari, Feb 19, 2010
    12. If your boss doesn't mind, I definitely don't. In fact I'm happy for you. Actually, scrap that. I wouldn't care even if your boss DOES mind. But if you're going to tell me to attach nudity warnings to my posts just so people can browse at work.... That concerns me, doesn't it?

      Not that common. The museum doesn't put a warning before showing people the statue of Venus. Books in the library don't come with warnings about naked aboriginals. Anyway, no one is saying "omg i muz post nudity without warning in galleries!". The discussion here is whether the nudity warning is neccessary. Is freedom of speech so lacking that we're not even allowed to question?
       
      #252 Arcenciel, Feb 19, 2010
    13. So what about people who want to browse in their own home while company is over? Why risk the other person freaking out because YOU thought that you were waaaay too important to put a simple warning?

      Or for me: What about people who browse at school or in a library or, hell, in a coffee shop? That person risks being banned from the premises if someone even THINKS they are looking at something inappropriate, and, yes, I DO have every right to look at DoA when I'm on my lunch break at college.

      So how is it that your absolute lack of common courtesy negates my right to look at threads without risking getting in serious trouble?

      And what about people who want to show these dolls to a kid who wants to collect, huh? Or the kid's parent? They could open a link to a thread they think will be fine, and then, BAM, suggestive nudity.

      Seriously, why do you think that you are so important that your opinion voids all possibilities and reason for respect?
       
      #253 Suuchan, Feb 19, 2010
    14. Yes, but what someone is doing at work - and many people are implying that by browsing DoA, people are shirking doing their jobs - doesn't concern anyone but the employee and the employer. A lot of people in this thread have said things such as "why are you browsing the internet instead of pretending to be busy," and quite frankly, that's offensive and unnecessary. And the work environment is not the only reason to put nudity warnings on things, it's just one of the arguments in favor of them.

      No, but people already know going into a museum that they're going to be seeing statues, paintings, and other works that might contain shocking material, up to and including nudity, and they're not going to have their boss (or parent, or teacher, or librarian, or shocked and offended barista) following them around the museum and punishing them for looking at those things.

      I'm not saying people shouldn't question the reason behind the nudity warnings rule (though I believe it does say in the DoA rules that the rules aren't up for debate). I'm suggesting that people might want to leave out of their arguments the statements that imply (or flat out state) that looking at DoA while at work makes someone a bad employee, because it does nothing to bolster what they're trying to get across, and only serves to insult a whole bunch of people who have already stated many times throughout this thread that they're doing this on their own time (lunch breaks), and that they're not "being lazy."

      I fail to see how placing a nudity warning - or any warning - in a thread title is a huge imposition on anyone. I can understand the arguments that society is too uptight about nudity, and that people need to loosen up and relax and stop being so puritanical - heck, I agree with that. But in the end, the nudity warnings aren't doing any harm to the person starting a thread, and they are doing good by keeping people browsing the thread from getting in trouble in various situations.

      I've said this elsewhere on the forum, but I'll repeat myself here: I do not think anyone has an obligation to "edit" their creativity so as not to shock their audience, or to limit themselves to a certain audience because their product might be shocking. There are places where some things just won't be allowed (DoA doesn't allow many things - other forums do), but as long as someone is not breaking the rules of their chosen venue, I do not think they should be required to stifle themselves. However, I also believe - very firmly - that if someone wants to share potentially shocking things, and doesn't want people to get mad at them when they are shocked by those things, then they need to place appropriate warnings on their work. Saying, "Well, you didn't have to look! You have no right to be offended and angry at me," does not work if you have not given the person in question the opportunity to anticipate the fact that they might find the material offensive, and the only real way to do this is to place a warning on your work in such a way that it is perceived by the viewer before the work itself is perceived, so that the viewer can make that decision. I feel that anyone who has not placed appropriate warnings on their work has forfeited their right to claim persecution, or lack of understanding, or any other of the myriad things that they might claim when someone is shocked by something they've unexpectedly been exposed to and then becomes openly or privately critical of that person's work.
       
      #254 Kiyakotari, Feb 19, 2010
    15. Some folks have jobs where browsing stuff between being busy is fine, but looking at nudity is not - I had a job several years ago where, if all my work was done, my boss didn't care if I goofed off browsing the internet or whatever. He probably wouldn't have cared about dollie nudity either, but some would. It's easy enough to put a note about nudity - takes just a few seconds to type "(nudity)", so I don't really get why it'd be a problem.
       
      #255 HystericalParoxysm, Feb 19, 2010
    16. Mostly just because nudity is not worksafe .
       
      #256 CL, Feb 19, 2010
    17. I think everyone is getting too hooked up on "Who are you tell me what to do at my job? Stop offending me!" and getting so damn defensive about it. No one really cares if your boss lets you browse other shit while you work or when you're done cause thats really not what this thread is meant to be about unless I'm reading it completely wrong so can we slide the discussion away from that one thing and get back to it as a whole?
       
      #257 Lord Gig, Feb 19, 2010
    18. The argument from the side of "NO WARNINGS!" seems to be "Ugh people are just saying that 'cause they look at them at work, lol they're not doing their job." That's why the whole work thing/what is allowed by the bosses is coming up.

      So, yeah, you were probably reading it pretty wrong since it's a direct reaction to being told to actually do their work instead of looking at DoA.
       
      #258 Suuchan, Feb 19, 2010
    19. I think it's not worth getting riled up over why people need nudity tags. No one is oppressing your free speech, they're merely asking you to take a moment to consider the effect it could have on someone - namely, possibly losing their job. It can have a huge effect on someone if their boss thinks they're browsing naked people while on the clock. The boss might not mind you shopping amazon.com or even stalking by Facebook, but nekkidness can get someone into trouble. No one is telling you to NOT post nudity, that would be oppressing you and trying to infringe on your creativity. They're just asking you to be considerate of others who may not want to or may not be able to view it.

      Plus, it is in the DoA rules. That is enough to end this particular debate alone, but as for asking for nudity tags on non-DoA websites, that's another subject entirely.
       
      #259 PenguinCheese, Feb 19, 2010
    20. Suuchan, I think that I'm not obligated to post a warning. No, I don't think self-importance has anything to do with this. I think it is my own responsibilty to refrain from browsing any sites that may have inappropriate content, and the fault is mine alone if I was seen looking at nekkid dolls because someone forgot to tag their gallery. I wouldn't start screaming at them for getting me into trouble.
      As you can see, our views in this case are wildly irreconcilable. There is no point in furthering this discussion.

      I did not mean to imply that these people are slackers etc. After all, I did say to "pretend to be busy". >_< I'm really sorry if it came across like that. In my defence, I'll use the excuse "English is not my first language".

      I'm under the impression that "not up for debate" means: stop PMing us or starting threads to ASK us to get rid of so and so rule! Discussions are fine. Hey, I could be wrong.

      THIS. God. I've had it with all these people who think nothing of violence but go bonkers witnessing humans in their birthday suit. As for the rest, see my reply to Suuchan. For people who want to post tags, be my guest. In fact, I would probably post tags too. I just don't like the idea that responsibilty for any trouble has been shifted from viewer to poster because of the rule.

      Agreed. Rules are to be followed, even if you don't like with them. After all, one can always GTFO if the rules aren't to his/her liking.

      Agreed on all counts. However, the issue at hand is regular nudity that every doll owner/aspiring doll owner have or will definitely see. If they're in here, I think it's very safe to assume that they won't be offended. I don't think anyone questions the needs for tags in galleries that are more explicit then doll regular nudity.
       
      #260 Arcenciel, Feb 19, 2010
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