Doll Nudity Warnings - Why?

Still seems like alot of people getting defensive and rilled up over nothing to me.


And away from what you've said now, but I would really doubt that 100% of people in here saying "Oh but I only look at DoA when I'm done with my work/school work or because my boss is okay with it!" are being completely honest. I mean, really? I find it very hard to believe that everyone who's said so happens to be in that situation and that most of them arn't just looking at it when they're not allowed to and simply worried about being caught looking at something that could be seen as 'nudity' as opposed to just being caught not working!

 

So you're saying that because some people are looking when they shouldn't, that means that there shouldn't be nudity warnings on every thread that has nudity? Seriously?

 

Did I say that? Please, copy paste the part where I said that because I'm pretty sure thats not what I said at all :I

 

Why say things that will make people defensive, if you don't want to hear their replies?

I'm pretty sure Suuchan was addressing Arcenciel, seeing as Arcenciel did effectively say that.

 

I changed my mind halfway in, so sue me

Yeah, no. I'd bet money they were addressing me, since they'd already said something to me that I replied to. I doubt Suuchan would do something as dumb as start conversing with one person and then say something to another and expect them to know whats going on.

 

THANK YOU. Why is this even being debated? You need to post warnings on your stuff. It's a Gallery rule. Period. If you don't like the rule find somewhere else to post your pictures.

Besides, this "what you do at work" thing has taken the thread way off track.

 

Actually, since I didn't quote you, I was addressing the general group of people who seem to think that. You just happen to be one of them. Thanks for thinking I'm personally out to attack you or something, because you think that people don't deserve courtesy warnings or something. (Also I am a woman, thanks.) Arcenciel is the one whose comment I was using as an example of the whole argument really.

Also, shouldn't this be in the debate section instead of just discussion?

 

Not my fault you chose to type your question out as a one person directed one. And how do you know thats what I think? I don't think I've ever said anything of the sort actually, and what the hell does you being a woman have to do with anything? How is that even relevant? Geez lady, take a chill pill :I

 

Did I say that? I'm pretty sure I didn't. What I'm saying is that viewers have no right to be upset/offended at the poster for not posting the nudity tag, whether they are at work, in the library, with friends etc. Of course, with the rule in place, they now have every right to be. That is what I don't approve of.

 

Why?

No, seriously, I want to know what the logic is behind this, because it's entirely escaping me.

 

Hahaha. I didn't even notice the tags, because I didn't care, personally. But after my trip to the library yesterday, and jumping on one of their computers to look some things up... I am very glad for the nudity warnings. I had one little girl sitting beside me that kept glancing at my monitor, despite the privacy wall, apparently interested in the pretty dollies.

I am now glad it's one of the rules, now that I can see its importance for when you are not safely isolated. It's bad enough having to explain why you're looking at dolls; having to explain "browsing" through glamor shots of naked Luo sprawled on a bearskin with water artistically running off his abs?

Not a big deal to throw on nudity tags. Not a big deal to ignore nudity tags if they make you go "WHYYYYYYSYSTEMRAGE". Not a big deal to quickly exit tab if thread should've been labeled but wasn't and eyes are watching, either. But it's a nice, safe rule, and technically since it's in place users have a right to expect it to be used consistently.

 

There is quite the dichotomy between gallery posts that include nudity and those that don't the majority of the time. I'm not, in any way, offended by naked dollies, or nudity in general, but it simply does not appeal to me while I'm browsing through the galleries. It's not my taste, and I don't want to see photos of it. So what's the harm in posting a nudity warning? I'm sure many people share my disinterest in that style of doll photography, and posting a warning is quite helpful when trying to avoid it. It's not as if typing out a little tag in the title of your post is repressing you as an artist. =p It's simply notifying viewers of certain themes that are considerably touchy, and generally attract a very specific audience. Personally, I would quickly get bored of clicking on threads with ambiguous titles that just so happened to include some doll pr0n, because as said, I just don't want to see it. Besides, erotic art is NOT the predominant theme in the galleries here on DoA, and that alone is reason enough for posters to include nudity tags.

"With the rule being in place, they now have every right to be." Lol, they had every right to be regardless of any rule. You are not in any position to determine what does and does not offend anyone other than yourself. Bigotry is really no fun, ya know.

 

Uh.. yes I do. I have every right in the world to be offended if someone leads me to look at something I didn't want to look at.

 

@Tez
See post #260, first paragraph in reply to Suuchan.

@hachimachi
"You are not in any position to determine what does and does not offend anyone other than yourself. Bigotry is really no fun, ya know."
Mmm, agreed. They have every right to be offended at nudity. As already stated before, my point was that people here can safely be assumed to be fine with nudity, since they see it on a regular basis with their own dolls. When I say offended, I meant offended by the lack of tags getting them into trouble, which is their own fault imo. Maybe that wasn't the right word. Upset it is.


Anyway, it is very clear that I have a very odd view(relative to people on these boards) on personal responsibility. Shutting up now.

 

If you own a BJD you have undoubtedly seen it naked.
As an employer I see no need for the warnings. I would not give any warnings to any of my staff using a computer in their own time for looking at a naked doll. They are not THAT anatomically correct. I legally do not believe I could even if I wanted to.
I do however understand the warnings for the only logical reason which is to protect young children who may be in the vicinity when these pictures are being viewed.

 

This is such an interesting thread! I've always been baffled by the nudity warning too. I wouldn't expect doll people to be prudish - hey if you own a doll you've seen it naked - but I didnt realise non-doll people were so easilly spooked.

OK, the first thing most people ask when the come round to my house and see my doll is "is it anatomically correct" but I never thought any one would confuse doll nudity with actual lewdness!!
I mean, we say anatomically correct but I've never seen a convincing doll wang, and the proportions and ball joints make them obviously non-human.
Maybe because I come from a fine art background and deal with real human nudity quite a lot (or I've just spent too long on 4chan and become unshockable) but I have trouble seeing the problem with artistic nudity - and dolls are just art/craft afterall!
Yes, I'll put nudity warnings on out of courtesy but I have no problem looking at nude dolls in public myself (anymore than I'm embrassed to be looking at dolls at all but that's a whole other issue).

I do think if there are young children around and you don't want to get into explaining adult anatomy to them you should limit your surfing for dolls to time when you're alone, simply because you cant guarantee you wont come across some unmarked nudity.

Is it just me or is it male nudity that seems to be the most frowned upon in the majority of cultures? I wonder why that is?

 

Most employers look the other way when it comes to the occassional web-surfing at work. It's expected, and employees will almost never get into trouble for it. Unless . . . . . . they're doing something illegal, or looking at things like porn.

To the casual observer walking by your desk when you're surfing the web at work, a nude doll looks very much like a nude person, hence the instant porn connection.

It's not that workers absolutely aren't allowed to look at things like DoA at work, but rather that we have to be careful about just exactly what it is we're looking at. Most employers will overlook a quick browse through the forums to read posts, but if they perceive you've been looking at naked pictures on company time . . . . big problems could ensue.

So, it's just common courtesy to warn your fellow collectors that your photo may not be considered work-safe, so that each person can decide for themselves whether they want to risk taking a peek at work or wait until they get home. I've seen other forums where they'll simply put something like "NWS" to mean "not work safe" in the post title. I think it's a very polite thing to do as a courtesy to others.

 

Well, even paintings and drawings involving nudity have nudity warnings. Nudity is nudity, regardless on whether or not the object of nudity is alive or not. That's just my view though..

 

I think the reason that they have nudity warnings is because there are people here who are younger, its not all adults. The rules say anyone who is 13+ can register, but who knows if people, especially kids, will lie about there age. For all we know there could be a handful of 10 yr old wandering about in the forums, looking at photostories, and bam, theres a doll wang in one of the pictures. or at least thats what i think