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Doll Nudity Warnings - Why?

Jun 20, 2008

    1. I keep seeing a lot of blame for wanting some warning of unclothed dolls being placed on "American prudishness"
      I have to say I'm fairly certain that you would get in just as much of an awkward situation if someone looked over your shoulder at school, work or a library in Europe and Asia as in America.
      I agree with TaylorATX that "statement" may be a better term than "warning" but in either case it's just common courtesy. How is it so offensive to people to be asked to be considerate to others? Is it that hard to type "nudity" or even "NWS" (not work safe) in the title when posting a thread?
      I have no problem with unclothed dolls myself, but there are certain situations when it would be best not to have pictures of them displayed on the computer monitor for anyone passing behind me to see and misunderstand.
      It's not the dolls that are the issue, but the surroundings. And, to put it bluntly, the rules.
       
    2. exactly what I was going to say.
      There have been times where I am looking at dolls and my brother was like "WTF ARE YOU LOOKING ATTT?" At first glance, people don't seem to realize they are dolls so it gets a bit embarassing if your friends think you are looking at porn. XD
       
    3. I dont really understand the "little kids" viewpoint.. if they're into these dolls, they likely know by now that they ARE anatomically correct, and if they have their own, they've seen it first-hand.

      I understand the "at work" viewpoint though... not everyone will entirely understand why you're looking at naked dollies, even if they're just dollies.
       
    4. I can understand how some people may overreact to doll nudity. I once posted a picture of my doll on Myspace. She was completely covered actually but showing her belly button and her panties happend to be in the shot. The photo got taken down the next day. I reposted it, however and it hasn't been taken down since. I was a little shocked actually, but I guess it kinda opened my eyes to the fact that people may care if they see a naked doll.
       
    5. Even after reading all the responses in this thread, I still find the idea of using these little warning as nothing more than absurd. :huh?: I honestly cannot comprehend how anyone over the mental age of twelve could possibly get flustered at a nude doll of all things, rather it be your boss, co-workers, etc. Then again, perhaps my perspective strays far from the general consensus?
       
    6. I thought the same thing when the picture got taken down. I was peeved! That is why I spitefully reposted it. I agree with you, though, but I suppose it is only respectful to give a bit of warning for the people who are not particular fond of naked dolls.
       
    7. I really cant understand why people are so unnerved by the fact that it's courteous to warn someone that they're posting something that includes doll nudity. Accessing the threads in question in a public place aside, some people would still like to know if there's nudity before they view a thread.

      JUST BECAUSE THE DOLLS HAS ANATOMICALLY CORRECT BODIES DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE IT, whether they're used to it or not.

      Want a right to show off your doll naked? sure. you've had that all the time. Just tell us. Is that too hard? Or would you not like to give away some kinda surprise factor?

      Flustered or not, I don't have to like to look at my dolls naked to own them. I don't like looking at naked human bodies. I don't like the skimpy nature of people these days. I, as a result, also do not like looking at naked doll bodies. Why? Because these dolls in the end are potrayed like humans when they're photographed. They're posed in the same manners as a human model would in the same circumstances. In the end, it's just another nude art in doll form. Absolutely no different except for the unreal curves and the fact that the dolls are not alive and have no form of thoughts or shame or whatever. Prude or not, if I don't like naked things, I don't like them. This nature of "have them so flaunt them and don't care what others may think" is ridiculous.

      More than "American Prudishness" this feels more like the western constant rejection for labels or need to label. Or to be more specifically, "selfish freedom". In which "being in society" is not a reason enough for some to accept the fact different people have different acceptance level of different things.

      So you say you don't have to care what I like and I don't like. Well stop making it sound like those who would appreciate these warnings are idiots who lives in the middle ages. Being modest in dressing and in what you want to view doesn't make you a village idiot. It's a preference. Geez.

      Dolls are not perpetually naked by nature. Like human. When you see a doll post, you automatically assume the doll is clothed, because by nature very little people leave their doll around completely naked for days, months, or forever. They could, but that's not the norm.

      If you want to post something with a naked doll, just give a courteous notice. Next someone's gonna bring up "why should we label yaoi posts? love is free for all!!!"

      Bah.
       
    8. Sadly the problem doesn't lie in the viewer as it usually does moreso the people that could be around the viewer. I know I'd appreciate the warnings if I was browsing DoA at school or in a public place - People can be highly snoopy and immature and will stir up trouble just to be rude. (And seeing naked doll bits on a screen would probably give them their fair share of munition .. )
       
    9. I did a search, came up nil, so sorry if this is a dupe and I continue to fail at using the search engine :lol:

      I was trawling through the box opening threads just now, and as I looked down the screen I saw a large majority of threads which said "NUDITY WARNING" or something similar.

      Then, what I feel a descent into madness - a "nude anthro" warning :? Animals... don't wear clothes... right? :? And and and... anthro dolls are usually fairly genderless, right? *CONFOOSHUN*

      Does anyone else feel that the nudity warning on box opening threads is a little... out of hand?

      Don't get me wrong - I can totally understand why one would put a nudity warning on, say, a photostory. But we're doll collectors - virtually all of the people on DoA own a doll, and most of those people have received dolls from a company before - to my knowledge most companies send their dolls nude as standard.

      It's also not a blanket thing - some people post that there's dolly nudity on their box opening thread, others don't. If 100% of all the opening threads had that warning, I'd keep my mouth shut and just think it was a little silly but the rules so hey ho. But it's not! It's pot luck.

      Is a nudity warning on a box opening thread (which, if we're honest, doesn't usually show anything too graphic/vulgar anyway because Photobucket would take it down if it did) really necessary? It rather makes me feel like it's a throwback to policing the internet for the kiddies, in case they see a naked doll boobie or something >.> HO NOEZ! :o THAT WILL SCAR THEM FOR LIEFZ!

      I'm open to mature discussion and reasoning behind it, it just confuses me is all :lol: (Not that confusing me is all that hard...) And I'd be interested to see what other people feel about it, whether it's necessary or not, and if it is, why?

      Once more, I am sorry if this is a duplicate or banned topic :sweat
       
    10. Hey!

      I feel the same pretty much. I think doll nudity should be treated in the same as as classical artistic nudity: as long as it's not sexual then it should be ok without warnings. I think it should be a given with a box opening thread that there may be photos of a naked doll just out of the box. Why not put a general warning when you sign up, or one for the whole forum, and then tighten the rule for photostories?
       
    11. To be honest, I put a nudity warning on my Box Opening Thread, because I'm new and saw that some posts had one... I didn't want to offend anyone, or make a faux-pas against rules/netiquette/habit... :sweat
       
    12. I just do it out of courtesy. It doesn't hurt anyone to do it.

      Some people like to be warned. What if a guest in your house was behind you, or walking through the room? What would they think of resin dolly dong?

      I feel it is safer for the viewer to be warned, rather than not. It is the polite thing to do on a forum of strangers.
       
    13. Some people access the site from work or school and as Tosspot said.....
       
    14. Ehryn, I'm totally with you on this one. I find it hilarious when we are warned about a doll being naked....it is after all just a blooming doll and hardly going to be shocking!!! It's just a anatomically correct little statuette, no???

      I honestly have no problems with nudity full stop, after all unless I'm completely misinformed here, we are all naked under our clothes!! :lol:

      And when it comes to being warned that a male doll is topless or a female doll is just wearing 'panties', which I've seen on here too...well I just crease up with laughter over those!!

      In my humble opinion it is all part of the 'dumbing down' and retreat from civilisation that is endemic these days. Presumably art galleries should carry a warning before you go in that our more civilised forebears were not afraid to represent the human body as it is!

      As for sexual content, then yes I do believe there should be a warning as some people don't want to see dolls in sexually explicit poses and that's absolutely fine, it gives them the choice of whether they want to view or not.

      But we shouldn't confuse nudity with sex!!
       
    15. This. Not all box opening show the entire naked doll. Maybe just pictures of the doll's face, or the doll all wrapped up in bubblewrap, then the new doll all dressed.

      frankly, these dolls are designed to be realistic, and if I was sitting using a public computer at university or such like, I would rather not have a naked body, that at a quick glance appears to be very human on my screen. Or even in underwear.

      Suidice Girls is considered arty, burlesque is considered arty, but I still probably wouldn't look at it on a public computer. (nor would most people, as I understand it)

      I don't think the rules are about policing children and protecting people who don't want to see naked dolls. I think it's about allowing people to look at what the want to look at and don't want to look at. In the same way people put "yaoi" warnings in photostory and gallery threads, or list what dolls are in their pictures. If you want to look, then look. If you don't, then don't, because you are already aware of the content.
       
    16. Nudity is something we need to be warned about, not because we as doll collectors see it as something bad, but say you're browsing from the library, school or work. Sure, it's harmless nude plastic, but can you say someone looking over your shoulder will think the same way?

      It's basically so people know which threads they can click on in an environment where even plastic bits might be concieved as NSFW. I know some people would rather be able to avoid a topic than getting in trouble over something as trivial as doll bits.
       
    17. I can see it from both sides. Having a nudity warning is basically saying, "I don't want you to be surprised when you see my boy's bits," etc. Despite that, everyone on this community - no matter their age - has probably already seen the doll bits. It's part of being a doll owner. And, especially in the box opening section, it's almost always assumed that it's just that - a series of photo depicting someone's box opening. And, generally, most dolls come naked.
      I suppose it's just plain polite, similar to introducing someone to another in the fashion of, "Joe this is Sally, Sally this is Joe."
       
    18. I think putting a nudity warning on a box opening thread to be a bit silly. We all know most doll are shipped naked and we want to see the doll in all its pristine fresh out of the box state. 90% the doll is naked. So why put a warning???

      And if you are afraid because you are in a public place looking at the de-boxing forum that people around you might catch watching NAKED DOLLIES omg! Then you know what... don't look at the de-boxing part of the forum in that situation!!!!

      they are doll, they have genders, some are genderless but it's not like they are shown in explicit situation. it's just a deboxing thread.

      I also find that highly amusing that Photobuckets deletes doll nudity as if OH NO that will encourage people to look at naked people... Please, where has common sense gone? with all those warnings people don't dare use their own judgement anymore because they might be judge by people.

      If you are afraid of watching doll nudity then dont go to deboxing threads... simple as that. and yes some people can't bear to see their dolls naked, it's their right. I do enjoy seeing the naked bodies of doll because I look at the esthetic of the sculpt and no I have no lewd thoughts... well most of the time anyways.

      I don;t see why there should be warnings on the deboxing thread because t's a de-boxing and I expect the doll to be NAKED. Most companies even if you get them fullset will ship them naked because they are afraid the clothing might stain the doll during transit.

      I think people are getting way too paranoid with seeing dolls naked, they are pieces of resin, works of art!... Are we to then go around all the museums of the world and cover up all naughty bits because scultures and painting show the naked figure. God I hope not.
       
    19. even though we are mostly adults here, it would be very easy for a child to access their parents/siblings site. many parents have different ideas of what is appropriate for their child to view or not, and we should respect that. yes, they are just dolls, but many of the photos are suggestive, and not appropriate for children. some of them even make me go woah! what is the harm in noting a warning.

      when i was working, i sat at a desk with a computer and browsed the forum a lot, there were several occasions where a customer happened to glance at the screen, and was like OMG what is that?

      so yes, i think it is a good idea, and what is the harm.
       
    20. I don't understand why "Warning Nudity" is turning into "This is Censored" here in this debate.

      It's not covered, just warned. Any thoughts? : )