Doll Nudity Warnings - Why?

Nudes don't offend me at all--I'm a painter and paint nudes from time to time, and do a lot of nude studies. HOWEVER, I really, really appreciate the warning in titles because ever since my sons turned 14 and 12, they have become super "sensitive" to nudity. Out of respect for their delicate senses, I avoid having nekkid chicks or dudes on my computer monitor when they are in the room.

I'm so glad I'm not a boy. Seriously. Those sex-drive hormones must be a real pain in the ... neck!

 

I think it's silly to have to put 'nudity' warnings on doll pix.

But, there will always be wankers out there to complain about the most silly things ever(unless it's dolly pr0nz, but who looks at that?). You almost can't put a mermaid doll on auction sites without someone complaining that the 'chest' area of the doll is showing.

Or you could have comparison photoes yanked from photobucket because they show *dun-dun-DUN* doll nipples! Some people just don't have a life, seriously.

 

Personally, I also don't see the problem with doll nudity, but it's not really right to mock people who do have problems with it... you know? That's not cool, dude.

 

I definitely agree with you. So I believe warning should be given if the doll is nude. Just to be polite to others who are checking in schools, libraries, or work.

 

This thread got merged and I was responding to the thread specifically about nudity warnings in the box opening gallery. I think it is common knowledge that dolls arrive naked and warnings of dolly nudity are pointless there. However, I do agree that there should be nudity warnings in the general gallery and photostories. I think in the galleries nudity warnings are a courtesy, in the box opening threads it just insults my common sense.

I also have enough common sense to know what is permissable to view and the environment in which I view it. I would know not to look at the box openings or even Marketplace for dolls on a public computer because there's going to be a great deal of naked dollage there...Even with no nudity warnings in the slightest, this is a very high possibility right? One of the most important things when a doll arrives or when you're selling one is taking pictures of every nook and cranny of their body to check for flaws and cracks that the company is liable for (or the seller is liable for in the case of the MP)

When you're checking out the gallery it's important to know what's in the threads, but when it's the box opening part of the forum you know there's naked dolls there.

Why were you even looking at DoA during a class presentation? I mean, checking DoA out in your free lessons or in the library is one thing, but in class? If it was your own presentation that's bizarre enough, but during someone else's that's rude.

 

I agree with the general reasoning, esp. the when it comes to public viewing or other people who are around your computer. I'm personally a bit thankful for the nudity warnings. I wouldn't be upset if they were removed, but when I first entered the hobby I had heard that the dolls were anatomically correct and, being quite modest, wasn't sure I wanted to find out just to what extent that went. Now that I've seen naked dolls, I know they're very tasteful and hardly what I'd call provocative--but I was one of those squeamish people, and though it doesn't worry me anymore, it made me feel much more comfortable when I didn't know exactly what to expect.

 

It may be common dolls to appear nude, and most people in the hobby are pretty familiar with it, but there are still those people who are sensitive to it. Is it really fair to look down upon them or to think they are wrong for how they feel? It doesn't hurt anyone to post the warning, and many people agree that it's helpful if they're viewing DOA in a public place. Personally, I don't have a problem with nudity, but I want to be courteous of other peoples' situations, even I think their opinion is a bit silly.

 

I'm personally not bothered by doll nudity, but I do find the warnings helpful. I often browse DoA during free time at school, and I'd rather not have to have the antatomically correct conversation with someone who happened to glance at my monitor. However, I don't think they're necessary in the box opening threads, as it's common knowledge that most dolls arrive nude. Though I suppose that would be helpful for someone new to the hobby who doesn't know that.

 

The thing is, not everyone understands this hobby. We think the dolls are gorgeous, but let's remember all the "so-and-so thinks my dolls are creepy" stories.

With that in mind, I can absolutely understand why someone would feel the need to hide some aspects of the hobby from other people. For example, I would have no problem showing my first BJD to my best guy friend, if he's curious enough to want to see why I passed up so many social outings to save up. But I don't think he needs to know that the dolls are that realistic, does he? Humans do this all the time -- bend the truth a little, or omit some details, to avoid conflict. Nothing wrong with that, just because someone outside of the hobby knows you're part of it doesn't mean you have to tell them every little detail, even the possibly embarrassing one.

Not only do the warnings help with that, but they also help keep us out of trouble, as there are some places where viewing such things can get you in trouble. I know some schools have free study hall periods, where students can browse whatever websites they want on the internet. But I'm sure there's a limit to what the school authorities would want the kids looking at. Same issue comes up when you have children around. I babysit a really nosy 5-year-old regularly; and I really, really would not want the embarrassing situation of him reporting back to his mom that I was looking at naked dolls on my computer while he was playing with the GameCube ten feet from me.

It's just common courtesy, really.

 

Diffrent peoepl have diffrent comfort levels, and relaly, when it's a public forum everyone needs to be respectful... if thigns are labled, then everyone knows what we are getting into =3

 

I’m not offended by it, what is offensive are butcher jobs of face-ups and badly done modifications. But I agree with others it may be good to post warnings just in case someone is offended by that type of content how ever rare it may be. This is an open community. It also may not be a good idea to have nude dolls on your screen at work, it may cause some unwanted attention and questions from a boss as they may not realize they are dolls.

 

Because bosses don't appreciate resin boobies and peenies.

 

I remember there was a post in the debate section that talked about what's pornography, and what's artistic in terms of doll nudity.

I would rather warn people before a doll weenie, or anatomically correct boob popped up on a computer screen while I was showing people my photography. My parents are pretty strict in that sense - any nakedness, or hint of such, is porn, shameful, and you are a perv. I think otherwise; I've seen tons of nude doll pics, and thought they were really good. Sure, they're naked, sometimes about to have sex, but they're still nice photos.

But I like to warn others (though I haven't taken any nudes of my dolls) if I had nude pics, because I think it sorta gives a kind of impression that I am not obsessed with doll sex or something. It's dumb, but... let's put it another way: it's like having them sign a mental contract that they KNOW there's nudes coming up somewhere, and they still choose to proceed. Therefore, I am no longer responsible should they be offended, cause they proceeded anyway.

 

Yeah, its not the greatest experience for people to walk up behind you while looking at dolls... they tend to take it as porn (my roommate did this once ). i think its a good idea just for the fact that you don't have to worry about seeing something you weren't expecting to in the wrong place.

 

There's a thread similar to this, I know, but it talks more about the difference between porn and nudity. This is a bit different.. I noticed while admiring the dolls in the gallery that there were warnings of doll nudity and I couldn't help but wonder why. I suppose there must be someone here who gets offended by that type of thing, but I just don't understand why. Dolls aren't real and I rarely see any of them with anything that can be called genitalia. I understand that BJDs are generally still a bit more detailed than your regular Barbie doll, but I guess I've just never heard of someone being upset by a naked doll.

So the question is do you think it's needed to have those warnings? I don't expect people to go changing the rules after this. lol I'm just honestly curious.

 

I could swear there was a topic on this...but my response is I like the warnings because if I'm in a public place and there is doll nudity I'd rather not be quesioned.

 

That is something that I always wondered myself. I have a background in traditional art, I took life-drawing courses, with live nude models in front of me back when I was around 16-17, I never thought of it as wrong, or perverse. Maybe because of my strong love of art, my views on nudity are “disturbed” a bit, but I was also raised to think of nudity as a natural normal thing, that shouldn’t be offensive, as long as it is not done in a “perverse” or crude nature.

I can understand that there might be some concern because there are “minors/children” who own dolls in this forum, but if we think that they also have nude dolls, it’s nothing they haven’t seen before, then there couldn’t possibly be anything offensive about a nude doll-body, that doesn’t closely resembles their own (again, as long as the nude is not done in a grotesque manner, there shouldn’t be any problem at all).

I also understand that some warnings are done so that people at work don’t accidentally open nude-doll galleries/post – but then again, are people supposed to be looking at dolls at work (not judging, I do it all the time! But, at my work-place they don’t think it’s odd/weird/perv that I brows at dolls, or nude dolls…they think I’m a weirdo for different reasons…XD)? But again, I don’t understand why it’s wrong to see a nude dolls, so much so that there have to be “warnings.” I understand, and completely agree when there need to be cautions when there is “sexual” content involved (whether the dolls are clothed or not), but warning for nude dolls seem kind of odd to me –but then again, I’m one of those people who believe things are only as “filthy/wrong/perverted vs. clean/good/moral,” as they are in the eye-of-the-beholder. ^________^

- Enzyme ^.^

 

some people are checking in on Doa from work, and even though they are dolls, many companies have strict rules on anything that could be considered offensive or pornographic.
Its the same as the Photobucket site that will delete naked pics of dolls, especially if they are blushed realistically.
and yes, sadly there are people who are easily offended by any nakedness, real or dolly.

 

The first general reason I can think of could be just a nsfw thing. so that if someone is browsing DoA in a public place and all the sudden comes across naked doll pictures, artistic or otherwise, it would be awkward for them.

I personally don't understand why some people would be offended by doll nudity, since it doesn't bother me either. I think the warnings could just be a 'head's up' type of idea. Whether it's just artistic single shots, or shots of a couple being intimate, then I think of the tags just as a warning label. Also just to avoid anyone getting offended.

Also some people may consider dolls too 'young' to be photographed naked. Like people consider MSDs to be around 10 or younger. And even SDs could be seen as only 15-17. But that's just speculation, I have no idea.

 

If I recall correctly, there was a big dust-up about this in a thread from a year or so ago. It pretty much degenerated into a "prude" v. "pervert" argument.

The thing is, no, there probably shouldn't be offense taken at a naked doll, but the fact is, we come from an immense pool of diverse backgrounds, with varying religious, moral, and ethical upbringing. To say that someone shouldn't take offense candy-coats the deeper issue. I don't have a problem with it, but my neighbor might and who am I to tell her she's wrong? I don't know what sort of environment she was raised in that might have made her more modest regarding nudity.

Since this is a large forum, with members of many different backgrounds and ages, erring on the side of caution is always appreciated. Warnings regarding nudity and/or sexual images are good