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dolls and gender [Just a weird thought!]

May 13, 2012

    1. I have Pipos dolls and two zuzu delfs. But I love SDs.
       
      #61 Xuchilpaba, May 22, 2012
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    2. I'm a girl with girl dolls, but I do not expect the story will end there. I would eventually like to have male dolls or even other creatures.
       
    3. Hey I am quite new to this site but I've noticed that most the people on here were females. And when they think of men collecting they pictures either Dollfie dreams wearing skimpy clothing or a larger breast doll. As for me I bought a DD doll (Haruka Ninii) and actually do not like her. I am actually trying to get her adopted to buy a male Bjd named Evan. As soon as I saw the doll I just didn't like her at all. My fiancé has a few male Bjd's which I buy clothes, wigs, and eyes for. I just believe the the male Bjd dolls looked so cool and now I see myself collecting only male dolls.

      My question is what do you female/male think about this?

      Would you think any less of a male who only wants to collect other male dolls?

      Does the idea make anyone uncomfortable or question the male sexuality?

      As for myself I am a straight male and I don't feel any sexual attraction towards any dolls. My fiancé thinks its strange and she thinks it's most likely because I haven't found the right Bjd female doll yet. Do you guys agree or disagree with her statement?

      Lastly are there others guys that feel the same way as I do. Who simply only want to buy male dolls and why?

      For females the same question but who only want to collect only female dolls.
       
    4. I'm female and no, I don't think it's weird you might prefer male dolls. When I read the title, yes there was a pang of 'might he be...' but after reading and giving it a thought, why should it be weird if a man wants to collect (mostly) male dolls?
      I collect almost only female dolls, and I'm straight as a ruler. Though I really like to dress and style my girl dolls and have them with me! Maybe because I can dress them in clothes I wouldn't be able/wouldn't wear in public but still love? Or maybe they are facettes of my personality I want to express through them? I don't know.
      So why wouldn't it the same for guys who collect male dolls? :)
       
    5. First off...I'm female, and I most certainly do NOT only think of mail collectors having big busted female dolls in skimpy clothes! *laughs* Most male collectors I've come across collect as much of a range of doll types as females do! I know one gentleman who absolutely adorable about his Dollmore Lusion Dahlia being his little girl, and also has some minis, male and female, children and teens. I know another who collects, so far, only male dolls, and my husband has mostly females on his list, but steers clear of any big busted sculpts because he doesn't like large breasts. His first doll is a 'little' girl (pre-early teen in age...I forget her exact age) and his next will be a young woman in her 20s. So, male collectors are every bit as varied as female collectors in what they like and want in their collections.

      As for your main question, I don't think there's anything wrong with any type of collection that a male collector might have. If you want all male dolls, get all male dolls! It certainly doesn't reflect on your sexuality at all. You may never want a female doll, and there's nothing wrong with that.

      I look at all collections as being perfectly 'normal' so long as their owner is happy with them! The only collection that's 'wrong' is the one where the own just isn't happy with it, and is too scared of what others will think to change it to what they want!
       
    6. How is this any different than the thousands of male comic book fans who collect figures and statues of male characters? The thousands of male authors or male illustrators who create and write and draw male characters?

      The kind of doll a person owns says nothing about that person's sexuality. All it really says about the owner is "This is the kind of doll I maybe enjoy owning."

      I don't care what kind of dolls men buy or their reasons for doing so. I don't care what kind of dolls women buy or their reasons for doing so either. They're not my dolls so really it's none of my business.
       
    7. I'm a male collector. I have primarily female dolls. So far, I have 1 male doll and I plan on getting my next 2 males soon.

      It's very hard for me, actually; a lot of strangers will tell me that I have pedophilia, and that my obsession with little girls is grotesque. It's embarrassing.

      I'm married and it's really hard on my wife, too.

      So far, with the 1 male doll I do have, I haven't gotten any responses like this. No one comments on him at all. The only response I've ever gotten was from a Black Latino woman, who came up to me and said that "she was a very pretty doll".

      Otherwise, everyone tells me about how handsome and regal my doll is, and how he's such a gentleman, and he must protect his doll-wife. They're often seen together. I think they must assume that the male doll is protecting the female one because he's dressed always in suits and she's in dresses.

      I think this is the reason I'd like to start adding the male dolls to my family. I get dolls to represent people in a book I'm writing, and my wife and my dolls' are all a set of characters in a novel/comic story. So I'm just glad that I HAVE already pre-set characters in mind for male dolls. I want to get them soon. It's sad for me.
       
    8. I should add that so far, only male non-BJD collectors have accused me of being pedaphilic. Female collectors are usually the ones who assume the perverted nature of my dolls; it's not pedophilic so much as it's related to anime. Women never think of me as a "child molesting doll collector" but as an otaku...which is fine by me, I suppose. I don't like the idea of people assuming this but I'd rather be an otaku than a pedophile.

      And even then, it so far as been single mothers who think I am an otaku. How weird is that?!

      I do not primarily have these responses. This is a smaller majority of responses I get, all of which happen within my apartment complex.

      When I am outside shooting photos in public, I don't get any responses. When I do, it's from other collectors or from people who want to know about my camera. :lol:

      I don't know if that adds anything to the debate; but I felt it was an interesting aspect of the general publics' response to a male doll collector. As it happens to me, I wanted to note it and see what everyone thought about that. Regardless, it's only an in-home situation. Outside of my complex, it never happens. I still don't know why.
       
    9. In my opinion it's absolutely fine for men to collect only male dolls. I guess there are too many reasons for being a doll collector in the first place, than to restrict this hobby to the sexual orientation and physical attractiveness. For example, I collect mostly female child dolls and I'm a grown up woman (leave alone being physically attracted to children). My fiancé likes mostly extremly small busted female dolls (he's totally straight). A lot of my female doll friends only buy female dolls OR only male dolls. I think we all have different reasons to be in this hobby and why we choose a certain type of doll.
       
    10. My question is what do you female/male think about this?
      Would you think any less of a male who only wants to collect other male dolls?
      Does the idea make anyone uncomfortable or question the male sexuality?

      As a female, it doesn't make me feel uncomfortable to think that male doll collectors only collect one gender over the other.
      I don't think it's weird or that it has to do with sexual orientation or that it makes a person less or more masculine/feminine.
      As a fan of action figures, video games and anime I see that in a lot of other hobbies as well - male-collectors only collecting
      male-figures or female-figures. In the"1:6/military" hobby it seems to be the norm (the majority of collectors in that particular
      hobby are very vocal about being heterosexual-males, so it doesn't seem to be a matter of sexual-orientation at all!). I think it
      has to do more with what individuals find more appealing (not in a sexual way) than gender or sexual orientation.Most of my
      collection of resin BJD so far are mainly male but when it comes to other types of dolls I own a lot more females than males.
      Not because I like female dolls better (it's actually quite the contrary) but because most other types of male dolls are kind of boring.



      - Enzyme
       
    11. I think there is a debate or general discussion thread somewhere on here "calling all males" and that may give you some extra insight on other guys with dolls. It asked what gender and even sexual orientation (optional) to see the demographics. If you havnt checked it out, I would suggest checking it out as you might find it useful for you! There is also a thread about "only collecting female" or "only collecting male". This might get you more insight on your questions too. I know it might be difficult when your fiancé, too, thinks its strange but I think these threads might help you not feel so strange for it.

      Now, what I noticed a lot is it seems girls collect mostly boy dolls..maybe I'm wrong but this is just what I've noticed. I, as a female (straight orientation), however, only collect female dolls. I purchased one boy doll in the beginning and just found him too big to handle, too bulky. I got rid of him. I have nothing but girls. I love girl dolls. I think it's because: I can relate to them as a girl, I like changing there eyes & wigs since I can't just magically change my own, I like letting them wear things I couldn't, I love the artful sculpture of a girls body. I think it's beautiful & it reminds me of art completely. I also think a part of it has something to do with growing up with barbie. Girl dolls remind me of my childhood. I always wanted to be like Barbie, among almost every other girl. I also think I can connect/bond with a girl better because I am a girl. Even though she isn't real, I feel more comfortable with a girl doll. It's like having your female friends around. You chill, don't worry if your hair & make up are not perfect, eat bonbons and talk about the embarrassing/secrets you wouldn't tell or how much extra weight you putin this week, all of which you wouldnt tell the opposite sex. Lol

      As for your more in depth question...as a girl what would I think of a boy collecting boy dolls (straight orientation)...if it was my boyfriend, I might feel weird at first. Though I shouldn't, because that doesn't mean there gay or not manly. I think social or stereotypical types have ruined our perception into things that are not true. Just as I connect better with a girl doll, maybe the boy doll is subconsciously an aspect of you that you want to protray. Maybe you don't find yourself cute enough, wish you had a stronger jawline, or different color hair...I think dolls are a way to express parts of ourselves, either by a representation or parts of us we wish we possessed. This isn't strange at all. Like I said before, I might feel odd at first if my boyfriend started collecting a boy doll but I'd get over it in seconds and support him. Honestly, boys collect star wars, bat man, super man, gi joe. What's the difference?
      Bottom line, if it makes him happy,then nothing else matters.
       
    12. I think it makes perfect sense for a male collector to have a consistent all-male doll collection. It's actually quite reasonable, to want to explore one's own gender's aesthetic in doll form. Also, it shows a good sense of humor and self-confidence, because only a confident man (irregardless of sexual orientation) can share his house with a flock of gorgeous resin boys. ;)
       
    13. @Katyok; the vision in my head I got when I read that made me LOL. In such a good way! Ala "Black Buttler", only dolls, and this one human dude taking a teeny-tiny glass of lemon aid from them saying "Life is good when you got your own handymen!" hahaha. I'm sleepy. But I would rock that somehow XD


      Someone mentioned that it's sometimes hard for people in real-life to share rooms with people of the opposite sex. Now that you mention it, I go into the bathroom and shut the door so my dolls don't see my change! LOL I'm all gross and hairy. My wife can see me but when it comes to the resin ladies, I want to protect their eyes XD

      (Our dolls are next to the bathroom in our bedroom so..yeah ^_^) I just close the door XD
       
    14. People buy doll genders with various reasons. I can understand the viewpoint that men buy sexually alluring dolls and Dollfie Dreams mainly for their sex appeal, but obviously this isn't one of the reasons you're into the hobby.

      I think you're interested in dolls that you can relate to, and since you're a male then you can relate to male dolls, how they dress, how they look, etc. There's nothing wrong with that. I also do the same, well used to do the same.

      Now my collection is half boys and half girls. I don't sexualize any of my dolls right now, but I just connect with their female and male aspects ...I also kept seeing a lot of cute and aesthetically pleasing outfits and female dolls that convinced me to start buying females as well.

      It's curious though that your fiance would be more comfortable if you found dolls sexually appealing and be the main reason for you to be in this hobby.
       
    15. What gender one collects *may* have some psychological connection to their sexuality.... but that is a HUGE "may."

      As far as I am concerned, what gender dolls I collect has no impact on my personal sexuality, and I am sure this applies for most owners...and if the aforementioned connection does exist in someone, it is no business of mine or anyone else.

      Take me for example, I prefer males dolls...but when it comes to drawing and making characters, I prefer females. People have their own personal tastes, and it is just that: tastes. There does not have to be some underlying psychological reason that we have to understand as to why we have preferences. Whatever floats your boat, I always say.
       
    16. I think your question is about intent- it seems your intent to collect male dolls is because they look so cool? I see nothing wrong with that- it's just like reading a certain genre of book or choosing to watch a movie because it appeals to you. I think any negativity you are receiving says more about the other person than yourself.

      Would you think any less of a male who only wants to collect other male dolls?
      No.

      Does the idea make anyone uncomfortable or question the male sexuality?
      It's a bit of a double standard in this hobby- I think when females only collect female dolls, our first thought is that they want to dress them up to look pretty- which is seen as socially acceptable for a girl. But when a boy wants to do the same thing, it is seen as unusual- we don't immediately accept what we're not used to. The idea doesn't make me uncomfortable at all, but I like to think I am more open minded- and I would think a lot of people in this hobby are.

      As for myself I am a straight male and I don't feel any sexual attraction towards any dolls. My fiancé thinks its strange and she thinks it's most likely because I haven't found the right Bjd female doll yet. Do you guys agree or disagree with her statement?

      Maybe ^^ I never thought I would get a male doll- I now have two :)
       
    17. I’m a male collector and I don’t think the gender identity or biological sex of your doll determines ANYTHING about you; nor should the apparent age. These dolls are a work of art, are our hobby, and maybe even our companions—what should matter is the joy we take from them and nothing more.

      I only have two boys so far, both children, and tomorrow a female YoSD will be coming in. I don’t think having owned only male dolls so far is a call to my sexuality—it is simply the dolls that interested me.

      But unfortunately, males in this hobby are scrutinized more than females. Not only by non-collectors, but by collectors as well.
       
    18. I'm a female, and I don't see any difference between a man collecting male dolls versus a female collecting female dolls. Everyone has different aesthetics they prefer, and some people prefer the male form versus the female form, and vice versa. I wouldn't look down on a girl who collects exclusively female dolls (and I do have a friend that does), so I don't look down on guys who collect male dolls. Heck, for that matter, how many guys collect action figures of their favorite male characters?
       
    19. There was a guy at a con last year with his wife and he collected only male dolls.
      I really don't think the gender of the doll really matters. Just do what you like.

      I'm sorry to hear you couldn't bond with your first Dollfie Dream though. They are very nice.
       
    20. I think she would feel more comfortable if I were interested in the female dolls. I believe it's because she is questioning my sexuality. I prefer human girls, I cannot find a doll attractive. I like male dolls because honestly its everything I want to be. Not that i want to me a doll but I wish I was buff or more attractive and tall. I'm short, slender, and average. It's kinda like how some guys look at a poster of a male figure they wish they can be.