Dolly androgyny -why do we like it?

I don't think I like or dislike, I think it's a condition of the character, if you have an androgyny character or you simply like the look, you should go for it, but it's important to have "muscle men" too for those other people ho wants a different character or look. Women are mostly more harmonic in features than men, in a men (real life men) the personality and the character plays an important role, but dolls don't speak and don't have a personality like living humans, so I think the attraction to this characters it's because they have the harmony of a woman's face and the body of a man, if real mans didn't talk or moved more surely we will be asking for the same features on mans, also there is a cultural Asian vision of the beauty, the man MUST be like a women to be more beautiful, so it's like a part of a fetish too...but ultimately it all depends on the eye of the beholder...God knows how many times my mother have called "girls" to my male dolls...(I try to keep the boys in pants so she doesn't get confused)

 

i have wondered this before too a little, i dont usually like child like mature dolls, i want mature pretty girls, and child like kid dolls pukifee children...minifee mature dolls for example

 

I'm not fond of effeminate males. Which is why I've got all female dolls, so far. There's only a few male doll sculpts I like.

 

I've always like androgynous boys, ever since I can remember. I grew up with the Labyrinth and Final Fantasy VII, go figure. XD It's just so appealing to me. I love the fact that a boy could totally pass for a girl.

 

The reason why I started to be interested in BJD is their androgyny, I love the beauty in the sculpts without paying attention to their gender, their slim bodies and delicate features are too exquisite to resist. XD.

It is difficult to explain what I am trying to said, my english is not very good, I am sorry.

 

I think it's great that these dolls are so versatile! I personally dress my recent addition (Dollmore Dollpire kid boy) to be both himself, and his twin sister most BJD's don't look too 'girly' or too 'manly' so it is easy to change (or sit right on) the line
I do laugh when people stare hard at this doll, wondering

PLUS

You only have to buy one doll haha

~Sarah V

 

I tend to like Androgynous dolls more then clearly manly-men or very-very-voluptuous dolls, (I find muscl-y guy torsos to be rather frightening ) I like feminine boys and girls who aren't scarily busty. Yet I will tend to not mind muscles on a boy doll as much if it is tan resin (don't ask me why, I don't know.) not that I don't like looking at a well muscled boy IRL, but bodybuilder with fish scales is rather something I don't like at all. and I've found that in dolls, then the more grown up boy dolls tend to lean more towards that. So I flock to the cute girly-boys who make me squee as apposed to the more adult 'oooh, he's pretty/gorgeous/sexy(?)' dolls. and I just think that tomboy girls are cute and spunky in general ^-^

 

I completely agree with you!! Really muscled guys just freak me out. O.O I can't look at them...
Really, it bothers me how they'll stretch the limits of believability with either gender, like the insanely busty girl dolls. I'd rather see a skinny, androgynous body than a ridiculously enhanced one.
Anyway... I think someone has said this before, but it has to do with Asian standards of beauty. These are Asian dolls, and in Asia it seems that a "good-looking" guy tends to look at least slightly feminine. I see it all over Japanese pop culture, and in India as well. So I guess it would follow that these dolls would tend to look more feminine, too.
Now, for truly androgynous dolls... I love them. I think some of the most beautiful people in the world are the ones whose gender you can't tell on sight. (like how many beautiful people are mixed-race...) That's my opinion, though; I don't know what it says about me. But I agree with what someone said a while back; they seem to transcend gender and even humanity at times.

Long post is long... ^_^;

 

I think people like the thought of androgynous creatures, they probably don't have any special sexuality since...well It won't work the same way as for humans and the innocence of not being able to have sex are appealing to some.
And there actually are people that are born androgynous! they have boobs and female sex but they have more boyish features on the body, like more muscles and such, and instead of eggs they have testicles on their womb if I understood it right
And some sees themselves as androgynous if they don't feel like any of the genders and wants it to live throe the doll

 

I actually prefer androgynous dolls for guy dolls. I haven't yet seen a super manly looking mold that I've liked (like the ones at Bishonen House). I
As for young-ish (childlike) looking face with mature bodies I don't mind. I guess it all than anime and manga.

 

I like male dolls to look manly, like DM Metta or Nyuta Kenzo. Luts SSD are so femimine that I can't visually identify them as male, so the presence of their man junk freaks me out. Like "what's that doing on a girl!?"
I think I just like to know what I'm looking at. A man with a man face, a girl with soft features, and children to have small busts and round bellies.

 

I find muscular, hairy and manly men unattractive in real life. I actual would go so far as to say that to me those characteristics signify "threat" so I'd never have a doll that has those features. I once bought an Iplehouse Luo (don't ask me why) and I just hated him when he arrived. I actually found him repulsive so he was sold quick smart. I love Delf males and any other skinny effeminate looking males though. Also I used to be a goth for many years and the boys in that subculture are all very androgynous looking - with long hair and often wore skirts and corsets - which I like a lot!

Generally speaking I think society (marketing) is orientated to using extreme expressions of maculinity and feminity as selling tools, i.e. macho, manly, buff, sexualised men and very curvy sexulised women with huge breasts as objects which sell. So if you don't like having that sexualised aesthetic shoved in your face you tend to go the other way - androgyny.

 

And there actually are people that are born androgynous! they have boobs and female sex but they have more boyish features on the body, like more muscles and such, and instead of eggs they have testicles on their womb if I understood it right

OT - I think you are referring to people who are testosterone resistant - so whilst being genetically male, the testosterone can't affect their development in the womb and thereafter and they develop physically female apart from the fact they have testes internally where their ovaries would be. But they actually look exaggeratedly female, not androgynous - generally large breasts, not much body hair, good skin, feminine features.

Personally I like androgyny in that I am fond of skinny boys with a feminine side, although I like them to also have some definite masculine attributes. I do also like the more masculine dolls, I just like them differently. I get less emotionally attached.

 

I like androgyny because I dislike the idea of gender. I don't claim to have one, really. I allow people to decide what gender I am based on who I am. Some people refer to me as male, some as female, but I really decide to be neutral. I really hate this whole "battle of the sexes" the world has gotten into. I believe we are all equal, and we are all people, and we should all be treated as people.

I think that's where the androgynous appeal comes in for me. I think it's more personal than anime, or manga. But to be honest, in terms of dolls...it's much easier to find an androgynous male doll than an androgynous female doll. Male dolls can look extremely feminine but it's difficult to find a doll that appears extremely masculine. *sighs* I think this is why I'm lacking in my female doll area, most of my female characters are more masculine. And most of my male characters are feminine. XD

 

I think androgyny can work in the sense of fashion, I'm thinking women in sharp suits like Annie Lennox, but I don't really like not being able to tell if a boy is a boy or not. It isn't particuarly appealing IRL (to me), so it doesn't work for me in doll form either. It makes me feel silly when I see a doll and it's a boy yet the ower has so obviously just dressed him as a girl, and if anyone makes the wrong assumption that the doll is a girl- they're made to feel like an idiot. I don't really see the appeal- or point in matter fact.

I'm not saying that in order to have a male doll he must be huge with bulging biceps, plenty of men are very slim with delicate features- they still look like guys though, the same a feminine doll does not need enormous boobs and wide hips to be a girl.

There is, dare I say, a divide of the forum where boy dolls are dressed like girls, with female traits and in all sense a female with exception of what they have between their legs, and those who are a bit more...straight laced maybe?

 

I think I'm one of those very few doll lovers who doesn't like most male BJD sculpts because they look so very androgynous/feminine. I only like a very small selection of male sculpts.

I'm a girly doll lover, but if I ever got me a male BJD, I'd make sure he'd actually look like a boy/man. And he'd definitely not be gay. I don't know why, I am not a homophobe, on the contrary actually, I am very pro when it comes to gay rights, but I like my male dolls to be masculine . I'd probably pair them up with one of my girls.

I would however consider a lesbian girl doll by the way

 

Being gay and being feminine are two very different things though and are not really relative to this topic.
An androgynous man and a feminine man are not the same thing and none of them has anything to do with sexuality.

 

Very true, I just thought I saw a link there, since lots of feminine looking male BJDs happen to be gay . I wasn't offending anyone was I..? :-\

 

Don't worry about offending anyone. You have the right to speak your mind just as anybody else.
My point was just that many seem to confuse androgyny with a man being feminine or a woman being masculine.

 

Wow-- I know you said not to, but I absolutely HAVE to know: why? Iplehouse Luo is, like, ye pinnacle of the Y chromosome in resin form. He has a jawline like Brad Pitt and has muscles on top of his muscles. Most people who find that look to signify "threat", they normally run screaming from Luo's sales page, without a second glance.... So I am really curious, what made you click 'Buy' instead of 'Back'?

(It fascinates because I can't even imagine myself buying a doll with traits I find repulsive.... Not even "just to see what would happen". I can't even click on links that I know will lead to pictures of foofy bugeyed lolita girl dolls.)

Very true! Think of androgyny as an in-between zone on the M-F continuum, where both men AND women can land in the same area, and look the same way (and can both end up looking fabulous in it). Their sexual orientation doesn't enter into it, either; you can have androgynous straight people, as well as androgynous nonstraight people.