Fantasia Doll Elder/Senior Sizes

I escalated my claim to PayPal since it is now been almost two weeks that I got the doll and they have not reacted to the fact that I got a wrong head in any way. I feel frustrated, because I cannot do anything with the doll because I don't know if they want the wrong head sent back. It's unlikely because the shipping fee is high, but it's not impossible. I don't want this wrong head but I'm forced to keep it here, and I cannot even practice faceups on it because I need to keep it in mint condition until this issue is resolved. And PayPal can take up to 30 days to resolve my dispute apparently (sigh).

I love their dolls but think I'm done as far as ordering from Fantasia is concerned. The dolls are nice, but I would hope a lot better communication.

 

vauhtikatti sorry to read/hear this. I understand that lacking of communication is part of issue with this company. Because changing/down-sizing body, missing CoAs and so on ... in one moment there is more frustration than joy. I also decide to change the planned body for my head in favor of Supia. I need a higher body about 65 cm and if "new" Fantasia is so close to SID as your photos say, I have to turn elsewhere. but I'm looking forward to your photos or review

 

Well, She's not SID size, she's a whole lot slimmer, but she is definitely the height. Any difference is mostly due to that huge head. Sadly, I have more bodies than heads, so she'll have to occupy this body until I clear things out with Fantasia and can decide on her fate (I was always like this, not the floating head type). This is the nSID body so it's a bit taller than the original - very little, though.

I've been a bit bad at posting, definitely. I've not had much enthusiasm or time to touch her at all, only dressed her quickly a couple of times. She's so slim compared to my others that I had to buy whole new outfits for the poor lady, everything that fits her thickness-wise is 2cm too short on sleeves and ankles.

(Left to right: Original Fantasia Alice on B type body, New Fantasia Alice on Venus M body, Iplehouse nSID body)

 

@vauhtikatti - Thanks for posting a photo! I've been so wondering how the new smaller body would look with a larger head. From the looks of this photo...I'd wish that if they were going with the smaller body...they would keep the smaller head.

Odd choices.

I have to say I'm more fond of the original combination of head and body. I don't particularly care for the new sculp's legs. (But maybe they look better in jeans.)

But maybe once dressed and faceuped and wigged...the whole new package won't look so bobble-headed.

 

vauhtikatti thanks for photo and luluna I am voting for old body, too. My head is Mary from OwlsMoor and she is definitely not for this new Fantasia body, which is petite and slim. This kind of body may look very "kawai" in fluttering fine silk in asian style but as a fan of old realistic-looking muscle female body, I'm out of temptation.

 

@susana789 - Well I'm coming from where my dolly collection is...which is in EID, SID, HID Iplehouse sized dolls...so the older body fits in with them...better....

But I can totally see for those who have the Volks girls SD17? Where the new body may fit in better.

 

Oh wow. The new bodies are a shadow of what they were. The heads though... And they are shipping. That's a definite bonus. I'm still going to wait a bit before I order my Alice head. Just to make sure that they will keep shipping...

 

I just tested my Venus body with some clothing, and with a long sleeved shirt I cannot get the elbows to bend at all. It's next to impossible to pull and engage the 2nd joints when she has fabric covering them, and the 1st joint does not bend either. So with a long sleeved shirt her arms are just straight. I was thinking about wiring, but I might not dare do it as her elbow joints have these tube-shaped parts inside the upper arm and they look rather fragile. I'm afraid they'd crack if there was a constantly bending wire going through them. So I guess she'll only wear short sleeves. Well, all sleeves were short on her anyway

I also measured her the other day (Venus M body) and the bust is 26,8 cm, waist 17,1 cm and hips 27,7 cm. So the bust is bigger than Fantasia site says. According to her measurements she should indeed fit SD16 clothes (27,5 - 17 - 26,5cm according to DoA database) pretty well. I have some SD16 size dress sets on order from Taobao, I'll show how they look on her, but it may take a few months because I ordered 40-something things and asked my agent to ship all at once.

I have some SD13 clothes and they do not fit so good. SD13 girls' waist-to-bust measurement is shorter than Fantasia and their waist is bigger, making all of the clothing sets on Fantasia look a bit like maternity dresses and leaving the sleeves short. SD16 seems about the same height as Venus body so I hope there's not that problem!

 

@vauhtikatti - SD16! That's what I meant above. (I have a SD17 boy...so that's where my mind went.)

I look forward to seeing her all put together and dressed up.

 

I hope I can find a head to put her together! I won't have the Alice on it as I have a strict one-per-sculpt rule on doll heads, and I happened to already have an old Alice. I haven't got too high hopes that Fantasia ever ships the correct head either, but we'll see. The old Fantasia heads work great on the body (I should put up a picture of that too, I took some of my Canary!) but I do not currently have any extras and they can be hard to come by. I have her a character and all, just need to decide on a head I want.

 

What sizes are the new boy heads? I'm thinking about hybriding a Dollshe 28M head on the muscular boy body with the hope that the Dollshe head is smaller and thus would decrease the bobbleheaded look.

 

@sno4wy my Isaac is 23 cm exactly. I snapped some fast comparisons with my Dollshe 28m Rey Lewis. With that hybrid you may have the neck gapping as Dollshe have bigger necks (I included a shot of their neck holes for you). Sadly I only purchased a head so I haven't got the Fantasia male body.

Spoiler: 28M and Fantasia heads

 

@sno4wy I have a 28M King Corey and the male Fantasia body (Jupiter), along with a Jin head. The neck certainly would have gapping, as it's a 10.5 cm circumference. I'll be doing some running shortly, but if you're interested in getting some comparison photos of a 28M on the Fantasia Jupiter body, I can try to snap some quick ones later tonight or tomorrow morning.

 

I took some photos and added them to instagram: Login • Instagram

I got the Vivian head and the Venus Girl M body. I think the head looks more proportional in real life compared to photos, but that may be because I don’t have a wig on her yet. Her head fits pretty snugly on her neck. Not sure if the body/head combination I got is different or if I just don’t have as much experience with bjds as other people. ^_^;

I received a set of the open and closed hands since I got her shipped unstrung. I also got heel feet, which I didn’t include a photo of but I’m happy to share if anyone is interested.

What else? She sits up on her own really easily. She can also stand on her own, but seems a bit unstable. I’d be nervous to leave her like that unattended.

The resin is wayyyyy paler than I expected but it also has a nice blush to it so I’m happy with it. Just means changing around a few of my plans for her outfit!

I think that covers most of the things I wanted to say? I’m also happy to answer questions and provide measurements or more photos if anyone wants them!

 

That would be fantastic, thank you!

 

Thank you so much for the head comparison photos! That is really telling about the neck holes, as well as the head sizes.

 

I got my refund from PayPal because apparently Fantasia didn't respond to them either. PP refunded me the full value of doll plus shipping although I only demanded for a partial refund. Well, I hope this doesn't get Fantasia mad at me, after all I did not demand such a big refund. They had 3 weeks to respond to me or refund the value of the head only and they didn't. I'm not going to wait any longer with a blank doll in my hands in case they decide they want it back, because all they've been is passive (also, for a full doll it's 120 usd shipping which I will not cover, so unlikely they want it shipped back). In case they did, they should have said it earlier.

Now, after this is solved, I can finally (try to) enjoy my girl, or body thereof, and stop wondering if I ever get the correct head from Fantasia. Seems, no. But I'm good with that, there'll be nice heads and I'm not in a hurry!

 

Just my two cents, I can understand you being frustrated about their lack of not doing anything. But I also feel that you did get at least part of the order that you were okay with, so perhaps some money should be attributed back to them. Just because paypal gave you the whole refund doesn't make it morally right since even yourself thought only partial refund was the correct way to go. But I'll leave it up to your conscience to decide what to do with that. Maybe I'm mistaken and others feel different, but I feel that it's one thing to have a manufacture tell you to keep it for your trouble and another for a third party to decide that one party should get nothing for their work, and their effort.

 

I have to say I would be more on Fantasia dolls side is they hadn’t pulled the same thing a few years ago...it just takes a little communication and honestly and we would all be willing to put up with a lot more...I personally would love to order from them again, but having been through the lies and lack of communication twice now, I won’t. and I totally understand if someone gets more of a refund for a problem they asked to solve fairly through PayPal, it’s more than fair. They had weeks to respond and technology they had months to make the order right, if PayPal sides with the buyer here I get it. It’s sad as I loved their dolls but I get it.