Iffy auction?

sorry to be off topic but ...um actually... no.

thats not true, its a common myth about copyright but its not actually true

both quotes from http://www.copyright.gov

but anyway 'fair use' is a tricky grey area at best, but in general if you're looking to make a profit (like I assume a doll company would want to) you're less likely to get away with 'fair use'

 

The 30% rule is a myth. A persistent, perpetuating myth, but a MYTH. There is no "percentage" by which you can change a work and call it your own: all derivative works are copyright violations!

See:
http://painting.about.com/cs/artistscopyright/f/copyrightfaq6.htm
http://www.utsystem.edu/OGC/INTELLECTUALPROPERTY/distance.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
http://users.goldengate.net/~kbrady/copyright.html

Sorry, but the persistence of this 30% myth drives me absolutely batty.

ETA: Thanks, Vulpes, you beat me to it.

 

I was getting frustrated and wasn't going to post anything for awhile util I read rikki-mew-chan's post. I think it's sad that just because I share my communicaitions with top_sincerity with the forum and that I speak up for them, I am deemed suspicious and my post untrustworthy by some people. Instead of being welcomed as a new of DOA, that had become another reason for some people to think that I have an what? ulterior motive? And what would that be, pray tell? For those that think because I am new here, I am for the doll manufacturor and the Ebay seller that I am out to do whatever......, please read my posts before asking me to prove myself that I am not what you suspect me of, whatever that may be.
If you don't trust my posts, are suspicious of me, or think I'm here to get something from you or anybody, just put me on your ignored list. I will continue to report my progress with AOD/top_sincerity for anybody that cares.


Well, I feel better now that I have vented! For those that are interested, I just paid for the two dolls by Paypal, and AOD/M. Zhang will be sending them out in a week. Just to be on the safe side, let's give them a couple of weeks. I'll post the pictures of the dolls once I receive them.

 

I'll be waiting to hear your report Venture-1 and let me say this "Welcome~!" people can easily get upset here especially when there's a chance someone is being scammed. Just stick with it and let us know how it goes

 

Hey venture-1 I don't know that anyone meant it as a personal attack. I hope not, anyway..

If you read some of the sticky sagas in the marketplace area (can you get there, yet?) I think you'll see exactly why people are on edge. There have been horrible, nasty things going on in the time I've been at this -- 10 months or so (is that ALL?). People being bilked out of all sorts of money, people being sold dolls with all manner of undisclosed damage, just basic nastiness. - and *expensive* nastiness.

I think you have been doing something that you thought would be useful. And to many people, it has been, quite! I also think rikki-mew-chan was just pointing out a real possibility - with so many people contacting the seller (not just you) and with English language ability varying so much, even amongh native speakers, there has been a *potential* for even more confusion than otherwise.

Hang in there, and I for one will be looking forward to pictures of your new dolls!

 

Thanks for the posts of encouragement. I mentioned rikki-mew-chan's post, because her (if i'm wrong, pls forgive me) words regained some of the faith I had for this forum. I try not to take things on this thread personal but when the somone writes "I distrust venture-1's posts the most', and "one thing I find very suspicious,venture-1, is why did you join the forum just as we started this thread" or something to that effect , I can't help but take it personal.

Do I have 100% confidence that Mr. Zhang is the manufacturer and in turn is the seller top_sincerity on Ebay? Heck no, not 100%! After all, I've never met the gentleman, I don't know the company personally and we are half around the word apart. However, from my research (yes, I do do my due diligence) both in Chinese and English, and my corresponsdences with him, I feel that this is a hardworking person from a genuine company trying to make it in a world that is completely "foreign", in every sense of the word, to him. I am willing to bet on my gut instinct and my understanding of this company and trust them with my money. Will I become an agent? I don't know. Not because I don't have enough faith in AOD/top_sincerity, but because we never even discussed the details yet. No terms, no prices, no contracts, nothing. At this point, both parties have an understanding that I am interested in becoming an agent but I need to have something concrete in my hands first. I email him about the concerns and questions people have on this forum, and he answers them and sometimes ask that I help to convey some of his messages to the forum. In all honesty, will they want to sign me up as an agent? I don't know that either. After all, I have no doll selling experience, I don't owe a store, and I plan to do this part-time. Just some food for thought. Let's think positive and again, only time will tell.

Once again, thanks chibikarin and Baakay for your encourgements.

 

To those interested, I emailed their boss yesterday and today she replied me saying that they have an agent for the dolls in Singapore. I just emailed the agent and hopefully she can reply soon to prove they are a trustworthy company. For those who are interested (especially singaporeans), here is the email she replied:

爱芬：
您好, 謝謝關注AOD娃娃，在新加坡AOD有一位代理商，她的
MSN:[email protected]，娃娃和娃娃配件都可以從她那購買到。具體
事宜請同她聯系為謝。

A not very good translation:
(Hi, thanks for your interest in AOD dolls. We have an agent in Singapore. Her MSN is [email protected]. You can get the dolls and accessories from here. For more info please contact her. )

I just accessed their forums and some taobao website and some of them seem to have gotten their dolls. I will help to keep a look out and do some translations if there's any need, so as to ease the tensions around here, and also i am really interested in their dolls >.<

 

well, it looks like things are becoming more sensible. I hope those who have ordered dolls will have them soon and be able to post more pics and evaluations. I still love the look of the dolls, so I hope that the agents or agents-to-be will be taking orders soon.

 

By the way, perhaps people who are considering the dolls may want to wait for a while more. There's a thread in the forums talking about the dolls weird mould.

"&#23401;&#23376;&#30340;&#36523;&#20307;&#24590;&#20040;&#26377;&#20123;&#22855;&#24618;
&#26368;&#36817;&#24819;&#25509;&#23043;&#65292;&#22235;&#22788;&#30475;&#12290;&#36825;&#22899;&#23401;&#23376;&#30340;&#33151;&#26681;&#26159;&#19981;&#26159;&#22826;&#20985;&#20102;&#12290;&#36824;&#26377;&#30007;&#23401;&#23376;[&#35980;&#20284;&#21482;&#33021;&#20256;&#19968;&#24352;&#22270;] &#37027;&#20010;&#21483;&#30495;&#30340;&#23401;&#23376;&#25402;&#26126;&#26174;&#65292;&#23567;&#33218;&#27604;&#19978;&#33218;&#31895;&#65292;&#26159;&#25293;&#29031;&#35270;&#35282;&#38382;&#39064;&#21527;&#65311;&#30495;&#30340;&#31532;&#19968;&#24352;&#22909;&#26126;&#26174;&#65292;&#20294;&#26159;&#21518;&#38754;&#26377;&#19968;&#24352;&#25321;&#27809;&#37027;&#20040;&#26174;&#30524;&#65292;&#25152;&#20197;&#26377;&#20123;&#20081;&#12290;&#20551;&#22914;&#30495;&#30340;&#37027;&#26679;&#26377;&#21150;&#27861;&#25171;&#30952;&#21527;&#65311;&#20854;&#20182;&#30340;&#23401;&#23376;&#36824;&#27809;&#20180;&#32454;&#30475;&#12290;&#24076;&#26395;&#21487;&#20197;&#39034;&#21033;&#25509;&#21040;&#33258;&#24049;&#21916;&#27426;&#30340;&#23401;&#23376;&#12290;"

Basically its talking about some weird parts of the body such as the leg and arm being too thick etc... From one of the replies (whom i believe is one of their staff), it seems that because its the first batch, that's why there's some not so good parts. But they also stated they will keep on improving and make changes.

Link to thread

So yah, maybe you guys wanna wait a while more for their more improved dolls.=)

 

Thanks for the updates Aeth-chan I will definately keep an eye on these dolls I love it when there are new minis

 

Perhaps you guys would like to take a look at this thread to show that buyers actually recieve their dolls.

Link here

I hope this eases the tension around here a bit. I am looking forward to venture-1's pictures of the new dolls. =D

 

PancakeGenocide>> My girl poses pretty well, both her arms are legs are double jointed. But it'll take some patience and balancing when I try to make her stand. ^^;; Her knees tend to give way when I move her a little. It could be due to the stringing though, since I have been too busy lately to restring her. @__@

Here's more pictures of her as well as couple of closeups of her joints and body. ^^

 

Aeth-chan>> I believe you emailed me. XD I'm located in Singapore, but I'm also AOD's international agent.

You may contact me via MSN if you wish, but if it's e-mails, please send them to [email protected] if it's not too much trouble. ^^ Just incase I delete the emails accidentally as I receive a lot of spam in that account. @__@

Oh, and I've replied your mail. ^^ If you have any other questions, feel free to ask me~

 

izumiyavi, thaks for all the photos. I really love her and will order one as soon as you're open for orders.
M

 

SWEET!!! I was informed wrong then...thanks Cassiel and vulpes. *evil laugh* Now there are a few people I have to go get on about stealing my art...hehehehe...you guys made my day

Awwww...thanks you made my day too...and you are right I am of the girl persuation.

 

AOD has posted pix of their 1/3 dolls on the Chinese site. The web address is www.aoddoll.com. If you don't read Chinese: click on 1/3&#23043;&#23043; for the 60 cm dolls, 1/4&#23043;&#23043; for the 44 cm dolls, and &#35064;&#23043;&#23637;&#31034; for the naked (for lack of better word, sorry) dolls. Nice dolls. Go to &#35064;&#23043;&#23637;&#31034; and you can get a better picture of Ming and one of the larger girls. I really really like the face of that girl.

 

Mr. Zhang sent me several photos of the 1/3 dolls which most of them are on the Chinese site. They are now working on updating the pix for the 1/4 dolls. WIth his permission I'm posting two pictures that I believe you will nto see on www.aoldoll.com Again, this forum thing is new to me, so if I have trouble posting the photos, please bear with me. [/IMG]

 

^_^;; easier to stick in one post rather than three? pics are kinda huge...

but thank you! They look GORGEOUS there, beautiful dolls and photos. I rather like the faceups there.