Intra-group Bitching about Limited Dolls?

I have a buttload of limiteds (I believe 'buttload' is the scientific term) but nobody has hassled me to my face about them. If they did, I wouldn't countenance it... I would have to ask the person what their problem was, and what they hoped to accomplish by bitching on my collection. These are the dolls I have chosen. I have chosen the dolls that I liked, and I did what was necessary to bring them home. What does it matter to anybody else what the availability of each one was, or how I acquired it?

When people do ask [more nicely] how I got all those limiteds, I usually explain that they probably wouldn't want to go through what I went through. I have missed as many as I've acquired. What I gave for it, in the past 3 years: Time, effort, networking, heartbreak, veering into the gray market, setting the alarm at 2 AM, daily searches, praying for lotteries, ridiculous bidding-wars, criminal mark-ups... four-figure prices.... And suddenly, the person feels much better about regular-stock dolls. (And I imagine they also rethink using the words "don't deserve".)

Oh my dear, if only I could tell you that. ;; But it's true. Friend of mine, has a Bermann, doesn't like to show it in photos because he always seems to catch flak for it. From jealous people who somehow hold him responsible for their failure to get one. Instead of spending all his time deflecting the attacks, he decided the grief just wasn't worth it.

I never believed in the "but you're taking it away from someone else!" theory. It makes no sense to me; it's such a bizarrely self-centered thing to say. These are total strangers. They don't know you or your plans. They did not purchase that doll just to spite you, so that you couldn't have it. They bought it because they wanted it. Did they buy two or three? Well, they're still playing fair; they wanted twins or triplets of that doll-character, and they got there before you did. Did they buy two or three of that LE from various sources? Well, that person did all the legwork & effort to track them down, which you couldn't be bothered to do. Did they buy the last Limited on the day before you discovered BJDs, and you feel they should've waited for you? Well, Snooze = Lose. Do you feel you wanted the doll more than the purchaser did, and you can prove in court that you deserve it more, so therefore it should be yours? Well, too bad. These are consumer goods... not gifts from the Fairies who reward you for really really wanting something. They're acquired with money + timing.

The last Limited in stock is like the last pumpernickel bagel at the delicatessen: sometimes someone gets there just ahead of you, & you're out of luck, but you have to get on with your life. Mind you, it is perfectly fine to actually BE jealous.... you can seethe with jealousy and hurt and deprivation all day if you want. Just keep your mouth shut about it. One time I said "Luckyyy!" to the lady who bought the last pumpernickel bagel in front of me at the deli, and she recoiled as though I were going to mug her for it. XD

 

I've heard ire about certain molds being limited as it seemed to be very popular sculpt and a number of people just could not get it. MOLD not a special doll (face-up/clothing set). Funds not withstanding, just the quantities available.
From a profit standpoint, I don't understand it. I'd rather a manufacturer allow for a decent edition size (not glut, just enough to cover possible market place need). A Limited should be to me, a doll with a special outfit with special face-up to make up the "limited". After all, all dolls are "limited" as only so many can ever be made. And lets face it, limiting a mold allows for an inflated mark-up on the secondary market, which the sculptor or company never gets a penny out of. I'd rather the company get the money, so they can make more dolls.
Other than that I think that people can think what-ever they want, just don't say it to another's face. Come-on, hasn't everyone's Mom said, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all". Okay, Dads too.
Of course everyone's who didn't get the object (ebay auction, special doll, house for sale, et c.) that someone else did said, "dang it" but its not that other person's fault that they got it and you/me didn't. We do go on with our lives and either look for another one, or act more vigilant when the next item shows up.
Now if its the company that allows one person to purchase 10 of a 50 copy doll, I'd get upset with the company. I doubt that's what's hapening. But in the grand scheme of things, that was the company's decision.

Of course I'm hoping to one day get my grubby hands on a full/complete Soom Beryl with everything. Learned a little lesson that day, don't wait till the last minute and to remember time difference between countries. Oh, well.

 

I've not had anyone say anything about the limited dolls I own. But then I have an exceptional group of doll collectors I mingle with, and they are fantastic friends. I'll be taking my tan Soo-Ri (second issue; sort-of limited) to the next meet and he IS expected to be there.
There will always be those petty, jealous people that want to ridicule those that have something that they or anyone else are not fortunate enough to have. I just can't be bothered with that kind of people.

 

I think complaining about how many of something "special" someone owns is the same as a lazy bum on welfare complaining that his neighbor owns too much who works 7 days a week.

Yes, getting something special takes some work and not everyone can do it. However, to have spoiled milk feelings because you (you general usage in English) feel entitled while doing nothing toward that "entitlement" is really on a level of stupidity that is astounding.

The more wealth people gain in this country (USA) the more people seem to think they deserve something for nothing. I've watched it happen over 50 years and wonder where the heck these idiots were hiding when brains were passed out. @.@

Oooo I sound soooo elitest! :P

I am someone who has been so far down the poverty ladder that daylight was a myth. I've been on welfare, cleaned toilets and scraped by to get by. So no, calling me an elitist because of my attitude would not be correct. Calling me crotchety, yeah, we can go with that.

Anyone who complains really just needs to be told to bug off. If YOU own the doll, you worked for it, you bought it and that's final. If you DON'T own the doll then again, hush. You're out of line. It's the same thing as putting your nose and hands into someone else's finances.

Okay. I'm done being rude I guess.

 

I own quite a few limiteds... at least 8, including a Volks One-Off and one I got from a dear friend for free.

I haven't gotten much flak, but I know it's out there. Someone mentioned that I shouldn't tell people I got one of my dolls as a gift because people might be upset. But do I care? NO. If people want to be idiots, I can't do anything about that. It's no business of theirs how I got my dolls or what I buy. And since they aren't friends of mine, I don't care about what they think. They are strangers and can think whatever bizarre thought comes into their heads if they wish!

I don't think limiteds are a big deal. After all--you put a custom faceup on any doll and it's unique! There are a TON of limiteds out there. To me they seem to outnumber standards! If people want to think there's some elite magic about limiteds, that's their problem.

I got my limiteds very easily. They were available for sale from the makers and I purchased them at retail (one head I bought later at a mark-up, but I could have got it for free if I'd decided I liked it when it was still available--so that's my fault). Even the One-Off, I just drove over to the Volks Mansion and put in my name and got lucky (and I was lucky in that it was the one doll that I'd missed since it was released before I got into the hobby). The hard part is coming up with the money at the right time, but that's hard with ANY of these dolls!!!

So, I'm lucky and it's no big deal. Luck can happen to anyone... or not.

I have heard of people bitching about people buying too may Bermanns and such-like, but that's just ridiculous. If someone wanted to, they could buy up every Bermann that comes on the market and that would be their business. People can complain all they want, but then they'll complain about the weather, too, and much good that does anyone... As others have said, complaining about things like some people having certain dolls--or ANY dolls at all--smacks of jealousy and also entitlement, as if people are owed these expensive luxury--and sometimes scarce-- items. Well, they aren't. Some people get them and some don't and that's just life (where you don't always get what you want).

 

I want one that is like the limited of the limited, but she's not that limited. She was limited that they didn't make a lot, but some got lucky. I missed out. Ok, so I'll save and hopefully get one later. And I do have a few limiteds. I got lucky on one, and one I paid for as much as she was sold by the company. The seller must have wanted someone to have the doll at a fair price!

 

So it makes no difference to me if someone owns one, twenty, or none of them. Anyone who has issues with whether another person has a limited edition really, really needs a major reality check. That's a definite sign that someone has taken this beyond being a healthy hobby.

 

Cannot agree more here. The energy it takes to get some of these LE are beyond what "normal" people go thru.

The amount of time I spend working so I can fund my desire to have these LE listed in my profile, trust me, most of the people reading this will not want to do.

It is none of anyone's business; but since I am thin-skinned, I tried to keep them to myself (ok Occasionally I take them to Sumika shopping....) but that is about it.

 

Here you go:
All about Berman~

 

Let me come back and saw, I love seeing people with their dolls! Even if I miss out on one and feel jealous say because someone has a Renee and I don't, I don't linger on it! But hey, you got lucky! Maybe next time it'll be someone else who gets lucky! And sometimes, it makes some of us more determined to save and find that doll ourselves!

Makes me treasure mine more, I know.I wanted Elf El since I saw him...but wasnt in the hobby when he was released. So I was going to save...then Luts released him as a type two. The second release I missed out on cause my comp wasn't fast enough...but then they canceled orders not paid for...I managed to snag him that time!

Elf Yder, breakaway, was bought on the marketplace. The rest from the companies, waiting to be bought, save for my Maki. I won the chance to get him from WLD. Olivia came through a seller on Yahoo Japan who wanted someone who wanted the doll and lost the chance to get her. Renee I will save for...until then, Lady Saiyuki's avatar will have to do!

 

Thanks, Kaiser-Serena! I was going to Google them when I logged off of DoA for the night. You saved me a bit of time. They appear to be lovely dolls.

 

I guess I have a few limiteds, but have yet to catch any flak about it. But then, I don't get out much either. And I have a tendency to ignore the world in general.
I do hear the eyerolls of folks that think I'm mental for having six Soo Ris. Some are limited, but most aren't.
I'm definitely with JennyNemesis in that these just mean more effort and sacrifice to get. And I certainly don't dive into that for the fun of it! I'm basically a very lazy person. I jump through hoops only if motivated to do so.
And most of my limiteds have come from the marketplace. So I would recommend to folks that missed out, to just be diligent and watch the marketplace closely. You just never know!

Now that having been said, I did get several of my limiteds with the generous help of my very good friends! But there was still much sacrificing to the resin gods and selling other dolls (one of which I found myself getting another of the same sculpt later on because I missed him so much)... sometimes by sacrificing to the cel gods and selling cels that I normally wouldn't.

And if you happen to get lucky and get a dream limited doll for free (lottery, gift, whathaveyou), then HUZZAH!
It's good to know good things do still happen!

 

Oh my goodness, I can't imagine someone getting harassed because they have a limited doll!

Hopefully soon I will pay off my Tania Trapeze and have my very first limited... but I would totally cry if someone was mean to me over her! ;.;


Of course, I wanna hit the owners of Volks Chii, Rose, and Bianka and Yo-Tenshis over the head and take their dollie away for my own selfish pleasure... but I wouldn't qualify that as harassment, it's a compliment if anything. XD
(I'm kidding about that btw)

 

I don't have any LE (actually not even one BJD atm) and I so agree , more pictures is more loving

This is just another type of jealousy imo, best to ignore. If you have the dolls and you love em then thats awesome
don't let others get a grip on you, I have an art teacher who is just effing AWESOME jet other artist at the same expo called her art 'kitch' and looked down on her. While those other artist can't even paint something that comes near her photorealism. Srsly , imatture jelousy ,thats all it is.

 

Well, I do not own limiteds, but I think it is terrible for those who do to be expected to own only a certain number. Heck, if they said there was a limit per household on them and a person owns a house and rental then good for them. They qualified to get more than the average Joe. Or if a kid gets their parents to buy two from two different credit cards. If you have the money to spend on them, and have a desire to buy them, it's a first come, first serve basis. Anyone who lashes out at someone because they didn't have the lightning reflexes to purchase at the time, didn't stay up till 4am to buy it, or didn't have the money should honestly feel ashamed of themselves for speaking that way to another hobby member. Envy is bad enough, loath is inexcusable.

 

haha, yeah, sometimes it is funny to see as people who were your friends yesterday, turning green while you talking to them about being lucky and getting ur dream-doll, which is a dream doll for a lot of ppl as well. Or as they ask you to sell another doll to them, complaining "U r too busy" and "Doctor said u have to take a rest for this month". Sounds like they want u go straight-ly to the grave, ne?)) So I just cleaned them out, and don't care about this anymore. Sometimes me myself feel envy to people with rare and beautiful dolls, but I trying to work on it and change this feeling, and it doesn't hurts to try to be more positive. It is really good when people show you LE they own and watch your reaction, and if u smile, not fake smile but the real one, and say "He/She is so beautiful" really meaning that, they smile you back with a child-ish happy smile, and start to talk about doll character and about this very rare dress from Y!J or may be grandma's perfect creation. So, for me, it is worth it, to kill some of mine negative emotions and get good one instead.

 

I can't own limited dolls at this point in time. No money. I've accepted that fact. I am a new college student and I've had to save and negotiate my tail off to get the dolls I do have. Most were the product of graduation gifts and I'm lucky to have been spoiled so well. Sure, limited dolls are gorgeous, but I can’t afford them. Let’s be gentle to those who can, ‘cause I seriously doubt we have a good chunk of millionaires in this hobby. From what I’ve seen, it’s mostly dedicated doll mommies and daddies who work extremely hard for their money and save most, if not all, of all their disposable income in hopes of purchasing a nice, special, treat.

There is a very thin line between those people who say, "Man, I really wish I had that," and "I want that from you." Some people can look at someone else's fortune and think how lucky they are and, yes, I would love to have that but, no, I'm not going to ruin their fun just because I'm envious. Those people are mature and understand the level of work a good portion of BJD parents have to undertake to ever even raise the money for that one dream doll.

But then there are those who just can't be happy for anyone. They trash the pretty girls and the successful athletes and build themselves up on. Those people that do bitch are jealous, plain and simple. They never out-grew high school, which is incredibly sad. Those people are feeling sorry for themselves and their financial situation and see those limited dolls as so incredibly elusive, which is crap, in my opinion. Every thing in this world passes hands at one point or another; it's just a matter of waiting your turn. Let someone else enjoy the doll for a little while--there's no shortage of pictures on the internet and maybe, just maybe, you can befriend the person, get to know their doll, and realize how happy someone else can be. Who ‘effing knows: maybe if you form a close enough relationship, they’ll sell you the doll when the hobby no longer appeals to their interest.

Y'anno, if you have the cash to treat yourself to a limited doll, buy one without regret. You deserve it. If jealous babies start harping at you, just smile and say, "I'm sorry you feel that way." And leave it at that.

 

It is mostly withmy breakaway that I get snotty remarks. I had one girl ask how a poor person like me didn't deserve any of the limiteds. I was so hurt by it. I think ANYONE should be able to have them. I even had a few people get angry about my elf chiwoo being the way he is.

 

Isn't it sad how the laziest, most selfish, and pretty much useless human beings on the planet believe they should be "entitled" to whatever they want without any effort on their part? And if life doesn't hand it to them on a silver platter, they get angry at the ones who accomplish their goal from good hard work and determination? You don't have to be rich to qualify for a limited...you can just save your butt off! If you're "too poor" then by all means my respect for you will skyrocket even higher for pulling it off, knowing you must have really gone all out to make your dream a reality. Kudos to you, my dear!