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Is it 'OKAY' to PM an Owner about Selling a doll they had NO intention to sell?

Aug 2, 2007

    1. As many people said, I think it's rude. If someone wants to sell a doll, there might be something about it in the market place
      I never received this kind of pm , but I would find it disturbing to receive one.

      Furthermore, I think we can't give a price about something we love that much, it's like considering everything has a price and can be get with money. I mean it's like thinking money can bring you anything you want because nothing can resist faced with power of money ( I don't know if it's right, I tried to traduce a french expression).
       
    2. Personally, I think it would be kind of annoying to have people digitally maul you over a rare doll.
      Unless they're offering an obviously generous price. Like twice as much for something they can't obtain. So, if you're desperate for a doll and have money to back it up, I suppose it depends on the appropriate offer.

      Otherwise I think it should be noted that it's really pretty obnoxious and you'll look like a begging hobo.
       
    3. I think it's not only rude, but ethically wrong. You wouldn't approach a parent and ask to buy their child, and for many of us our dolls are nearly as precious to us as children.
       
    4. To be honest, that'd annoy me even more, and smacks of wealthy entitlement. If I had someone PMing me offering an outrageous amount of money for my doll, thinking that throwing enough $$ signs at me will make me give it up, I'd tell them, not entirely politely, to get lost. I don't care how desperate you are for a doll or how much money you have to back it up, that's just rude as all hell.

      I doubt anyone will ever PM me asking to buy one of my dolls. They're not uncommon molds. If anyone did, though, I would be very irritated.
       
    5. If that happened to me, my first reaction would be bewilderment, because my crew is not made of rare molds per se. They're just not very popular ones.

      However, if I decline, and they keep PM'ing me/pestering me regarding it, then yes, I would feel very bothered.
       
    6. It is not ok to pm someone and ask if they are selling it. In some cases it can be flattering, but more often then not, it is annoying. If the person realy likes the doll, they can ask what mold, how the person got it, or where to get it (which is what i did for a couple molds i realy like). But asking for someone if, to sell is rude.

      Although, it doesn't mean the person who owns the doll can be rude back. Most people who are asking if they are selling are probably either new (so they don't know the rules) or they just weren't thinking at the time because they found a sculpt they truly love.
       
    7. I've just received a PM with someone asking to buy one of my personal dolls, and now Im just irritated.

      I think that when they ask to buy a Limited doll, then its more unnerving. It's like a vulture waiting for prey.
       
    8. TO ME - I think its like asking you to sell one of your family really. If you want to let it go then you'd post a for sale sign! Flattery is perfectly welcome though, it would be nice to be told by someone how much they love your doll.
       
    9. This happened to me a while ago, I posted my limited girl in the gallery, then I got a pm in a way too familiar tone stating 'will you sell that doll with that wig to me?' I was surprised, a bit shocked someone would go that far to get MY doll, and I felt I'd be very snarky if I replied back, so I didn't.

      If I wanted to sell her, she'd be in the marketplace. I can understand if I hinted I might sell her, but I did no such thing. I had no idea that it was against the rules to contact someone in this regard.
       
    10. this may be a little off topic-but i was just thinking, i would have a hard time buying someone else's doll. Especialy if it was sold because of financial situations.
      I mean the doll would already have a style, their own personality, and even their own background and friends. and then i get a hold of it, i don't think i would be able to change them partialy because the origional owner put so much time and effort into creating this character. and also because it just wouldn't feel right. I mean what happens to the origional personality.

      I also get this way with Rp Characters where the rp has died, and with characters in my stories. but i'd feel especialy bad if it was a BJD
       
    11. A definite NO - I can't believe people would even think about doing such a thing! If they wanted to sell one, they'd put it up on the Marketplace and/or Ebay, or at the very least let it be known to others that they may consider selling in the future. Other than that, a person's dolls are off limits.
       
    12. I think it's incredibly rude to pm someone about selling a doll they haven't indicated they want to part with. Pm them with a complement, sure, but don't ask to buy their doll. Many people have invested not only money and time, but emotional attachments into making their dolls what they are, and trying to buy that indicates a lack of respect for the bond between doll and collector.
       
    13. I'd personally be flattered that someone loved my doll that much but at the same I'd feel it was horribly rude. It's flattering and insulting at the same time.
      Same with people on the street >.> I've had random offers of $50 a few times >.> I usually inform them that 15x that was the cost of the doll and leave before I'm tempted to slap them.
       

    14. This is an interesting side thought, Umi no Yume... I always wonder what happened to two of my 'kids' I sold that I had really bonded with and created personalities for. I haven't seen them in some time, and worry :(

      This happened to me a few years ago with a limited doll. The person was very polite about asking if I would ever consider parting with him. After a bit of thought, I decided I really did want to back away from the larger bjds, and sold him to the asker. It was someone I was familiar with though, and knew would treat him well. So I guess it was okay for me, as long as it is phrased politely and not begging or bribing.
       
    15. I only own one rare doll.. and that is Kyle (IH Soori ver 2) and never ran into this issue personally. However. I look at this in all sorts of angles.

      As said in the first post, I wouldn't mind if someone told me "He is beautiful! If you EVER sell him, contact me!" It would make me giggle and want to talk to the person about him a bit..

      But.. if someone put up an offer for him, I wouldn't be offended. I just wonder how they would be so bold. Ya know? He's my BOY! and the story about how I got him is very involved. I can never replace that. but, it also reminds me of My brother. He had a '75 Nova SS (car) and some guy came to the door and asked if he was intrested in selling it to him. He didn't have it in an ad or a paper, no sign was up, but my brother had put a lot of work into it. It was like his baby.. but unfortunately lost the time ot work on it. It was his first car so he DID deside to sell it to the guy. So, it goes under that 'it never hurts to ask' policy.

      The part that would offend me is if I politely turned the person down, they keep comming back and hounding if the message back was anything but "Aww, okay, thanks anyway.. if you ever consider it , contact me" Then I would report them. I can't stand pushy people. PERIOD for any reason..
       
    16. Like many others have said before this, it all depends on the amount of tact the person uses in messaging. If you don't have a Feelers or FS thread out for one of your dolls, and someone IMs offering a dollar amount out of the blue, I'd probably decline and feel a little put off by it, depending on how they wrote it. If they put some back story to why they're making an offer (ie: trying to collect all of the Tokyo Boys, or having gotten into the hobby after X limited was out of production, etc) I'd probably be able to relate a little, and even consider keeping them in mind if I did decide to sell.

      But, maybe if the message came while I was selling a different doll(s) (if I mentioned something like "need money to pay for bills/ repairs/ move/ different doll" in the description in the FS thread) I could understand where this potential buyer on a doll that's not for sale would be coming from. Even though it could be seen as trying to take advantage of my situation, at least there would be some sort of reason behind it--if you're that hard up for cash, maybe you'd be interested in letting another doll go instead. Echoing everyone else, badgering people with PMs is just annoying and pretty tasteless. If you want to spend that much time trying to get a doll, go post a WTB thread and bump it daily. A lot more productive than pissing off the person who has the doll you want, anyway.

      As far as messages that read along the lines of 'I love your doll, if you're ever thinking of selling, please let me know!', I don't really think it would upset me. Sure, there's a chance that I wouldn't remember to contact them if I did sell said doll in the first place (>_<;; ), but I personally wouldn't look at it in the same light as someone trying to buy my 'child'. More like someone trying to buy a piece of art, or maybe some costume I made. There's a lot of work put into it, and a lot of love, but in the end, it's a doll.

      (Not speaking from experience, this is just how I'd imagine I'd feel ^^;; )
       
    17. Is it okay? Well, I guess so because they're not technically doing anything wrong.

      Should it be done? Probably not. Depending on how it is presented, it might be kind of rude, intrusive, presumptuous, creepy, and troll-like (meaning they're trying to spark a reaction, and probably aren't really that interested in the doll itself)--and would promptly get someone added to my ignore list.

      I've PM'ed people to tell them I think their dolls are gorgeous! But I would never, no matter how much I liked the doll, dream of putting anything in there in any context about them selling it to me at any point in the future, regardless of the circumstances.
       
    18. its totally not okay! the owner loves his/ her doll, and it would be more polite to ask, for example, where to get it and things like that, but not ask to buy owner's doll.
       
    19. I would think that in general, it's a no. At the same time, if some one had a doll that they had mod-ed so well that the only thing a person can think of is ..._MUST OWN_ then it might be a compliment...but again to ask out right...Naa...not so much.
       
    20. I've never done and never plan on doing it, but if it;s a mold I have never heard of and liked, I would ask the owner where they got it. But I can't even sell the one I do have up for sale, so likely no one will ever pm me on mine. I don't post them up anyway.