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Is it 'OKAY' to PM an Owner about Selling a doll they had NO intention to sell?

Aug 2, 2007

    1. It's really just very rude and inconsiderate, after being asked several times by this one rich lady I kept politely turning her down and told her where I got my girl from and gave her the AOD website where I ordered directly from. She kept asking though. :|
       
    2. hm, maybe I can't really imagine this.. but when someone would ask me if he/she could buy my doll the way I arranged them (clothes, wig, faceup etc.) I MIGHT feel honored..
      because I was able to make a doll special, stand it out from others. And when I did the faceup myself or cut a wig the way it's now or even made the clothes the people are interested in, I would feel proud... in a way...
      ah, it's strange to find the right words for this. and if I don't have such a tight bond with the doll anyway, so maybe this person could buy it.
      but even when someone wants to buy my darling-doll, I would just turn the person down and would nevertheless feel honored
       
    3. I agree with you. If someone wants to buy my doll because of how I customized it, I would really feel happy and proud of it, because I was able to make someone like my style so bad to the point they want to buy my doll. That would be so awesome! :D
       
    4. Wow, such a pushy person. But probably it's because she fell in love with the style you did to your doll and that the site won't justify her ideal doll other than yours. :lol:
       
    5. I think its very rude indeed, if someone does want to sell a doll, they'll tell everyone they do, its like people who walk up to me when I'm walking my beautigul GSD and ask,"will you sell him to me?" when I say he's not for sale, they just keep upping the price, expecting me to be swayed by money, I love my dog, why would I want to sell him just because theyve asked.
      Another thought is that if doll owners get too many pm's regarding their dolls ,they might then feel uncomfortable posting pictures of them and that would be a sad loss to us all.
       
    6. I think it's pretty rude :sweat especially when you have to tell them no more than once. :|
       
    7. Hmmm. I would think ONCE would be ok. Maybe even flattering.
      But if I were to say no and they continued... I'd get very annoyed very quickly.

      I'd only ask about a doll that I had seen listed for sale.
      And if the listing is old, with no mention of if the sale had gone through. I may contact to see if the doll is still available.
       
    8. She probably thought she could just throw some money at you, and you could just buy another one from AOD. Of course that's incredably rude and totally missing the point of what these dolls mean to most of us. To most of us it doesn't matter if it's a "common" mold. That's not what makes my doll special to me, or your doll special to you. Even if I got paid say, $500 for my DZ Feilian from some rich lady, then sure, I could buy another from DZ, with enough money leftover to get her some cute cloths, but she wouldn't be my Mel, any more than you buying a new AOD would be the same as the one you currently own.
       
    9. yes, that would be nice. you feel special than and like it's something you can do quite well ^^ but it takes time doesn't it? you have to improve, because nobody can sew beautiful SD scale clothes right away or do a perfect faceup.. I mean, when I have a doll with a default make up by a company or one by another person, it wouldn't be the same.

      so, does it only happen to dolls, who are customized by experienced owners? or does it happen to more default dolls too? (in this case you can always say, that the asking person could order the same doll from a company ^^')
       
    10. Exactly. At first I was flattered, and politely turned her down and told her where I got her from and gave the website. But...She kept pushing throughout the weekend. I needless to say, was starting to get fairly annoyed. I tried to explain that yes I could get another Rao, but she wouldn't be my Wrath at all.
       
    11. Yeah if they want my doll, which has a default face-up and ordinary clothing that you can purchase from the internet, I'd say to them just go buy the doll from the company since it's just the same. If they get pushy I don't think I'll like that.
       
    12. Depending on the wording it would come off as either flattering or tasteless/rude. It's not necessarily wrong though unless the person is actually pestering the doll owner.
       
    13. I don't know if this counts ... but I think it's rude when someone implies that I was asking to buy their doll. x__X; I may be one of the only ones this has happened to though ...

      I went into a doll shop (before I had my own boys) and noticed that the owner had some lovely Volks dolls on display at the counter. I went over to admire them and said, "Oh, you have such beautiful dolls!" I got a quick reply of -

      "They're not for sale! :/"

      ... I felt kind of offended ... I had just wanted to pay her a compliment and got treated rudely. I guess she must get inquiries all the time but it seemed a little hasty to me. ><;
       
    14. I've been thinking about this issue a lot. It's happened to me on two occasions, the first was rather pushy. The second was more polite. On both occasions I was kind of baffled, and not at all flattered. I just can't imagine why anyone would see a gallery post and feel it was at all okay to approach the doll's owner to buy it - especially in this hobby where the dolls are often very personal and special to their owners. I just find the whole idea really unpleasant and rude.
       
    15. Personally, I think it's quite rude.

      And while it might be flattering, as I'm sure it would be, I think, either way, I would be offended by the offer/question.
       
    16. Everything is constantly changing in the doll world including doll owners and their dolls. I've seen numerous owners say 'I adore my doll and he/she's here to stay' and a month or two later it's up for sale. My point it people CHANGE THEIR MINDS or real life comes along and changes circumstances. So I don't see anything wrong with admiring someone's doll and saying, 'if you ever decide to sell, keep me in mind please.' Friends/ people are often unaware of who might be interested if they ever decide to sell a doll and they would prefer knowing their doll is going to a good home (hopefully).

      Harrassment/rudeness I agree is totally uncalled for, and I do not condone that type of attitude/behavior either.

      And I totally agreed with padawansguide, idrisfynn and jaxagambla who spoke on this many moons ago.
       
    17. I think it's a good backup system to know who's interested in your doll.
      That way, if you're ever in desperate need of money you can contact that person
      and ask if they're still interested.

      I also think it's rather flattering when someone notices my doll and PM's me a PM
      like that, as long as it isn't rude in any way, I'm not at all bothered by someone asking
      if I would ever sell, because, as Keeley Keena just said, people change their minds.
       
    18. However, you also realize, people changing their minds can also mean they lose a potential buyer.

      Also, if for some reason i'd actually said the "if you ever wanna sell, i'll buy them from you" bit, and after a response of "no, thanks, but i'm never gonna sell them, i love 'em to bits" that doll ended up for sale...I'd feel responsible for it. I'd feel horrible. And if i couldnt afford the doll right then, i'd feel REALLY horrible, since at that point you're planting the thougth of selling a beloved doll in their owners head, and you as a potential buyer can either change your mind or not have the funds very easily as well.


      I'm still on the boat of i'd never sell any of my dolls for anything. They're my kids, my characters, and i couldnt bare to see their personalities ripped from them. They arent just objects to me. If someone said that to me, nice or not, i'd still feel somewhat offended, even if it was meant as a flattering statement. Although, there might be a difference if its someone i was friends with, and it was at least half joking, but thats not the same as some random person asking.
       
    19. I don't mind if a person PMs me asking about selling a doll I have no intention to sell. I'll just tell them that its definately not for sale, but I'll remember her name incase the doll will one day be for sale. You never know what the future brings, one day you might want to sell that specific doll.

      But the person should be satisfied with this 'no' and not continue being pushy, that I also consider as very rude.
       
    20. It's okay perhaps once. It can be very flattering that someone likes one of your dolls so much that they would want to own it themselves. However, if they asked more than once after being told no, it isn't okay anymore.