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Is it 'OKAY' to PM an Owner about Selling a doll they had NO intention to sell?

Aug 2, 2007

    1. I don't have any personal experience with this, which is good. But isn't that, like, really rude? Why would you do that? No one would walk up to you and say, "Will you sell me your car? Or your dress? Or your Ipod?" So why a doll? The only time this would be okay is if you mentioned on a board that you were downsizing or something, and in that case it would have to be a "I saw that you're downsizing, does that maybe include X? I'd love to buy her if so." A "Sell me Y for $x" would bug me even if I had said I was downsizing.

      Sorry, I guess this is just a repeat. I feel sorry for your stories, guys.
       
    2. I don't own a rare doll, but if I did and someone wanted to buy it from me, I wouldn't feel offended really, I'd feel flattered. I'd decline politely of course, unless the offer was -way- over the league of what I paid for it. ;)
       
    3. I think it's rude to ask someone about selling their doll, no matter how much you adore it. I think it'd be just as flattering (if not more) and much more tactful to just PM them letting them know how much you love their doll, just for kicks. I'm always up for giving out compliments when they're deserved, but I don't think that asking about buying someone's doll is appropriate. When someone does that it kinda feels to me as if they're one of those people who think they can buy anything with money, including sentiment (people have asked me how much I'd like to get for my cats... Wth?!).
       
    4. You know, there are actually a lot of people in this world that would be ready to sell just about anything for the right amount of money. I don't think they're worse people than people like you or me - I don't think the buyers are either - I just think they must miss something in their lives. I pity them; but they cannot annoy me at all. Just answer 'no' - and that's it.
       
    5. Sadly, I actually do get "Is your car for sale?" more often than I'd like. Total random strangers in parking lots mostly, and once even an employee at fast-food drive-thru. I do agree that it's rather rude, but it does happen. Sadly, there will always be people out there like that. :|
       

    6. No everything is plain black and white, there is some gray in the middle!
      I really do disagree with the whole [People are rude to ask a question].

      I have had people ask me to contact them if I were to sell my doll questions. It really depends on how they ask you...

      In DOA.
      Some people may just love your doll so much and compliment. And ask if you were to ever sell it to contact them. It's not that they're trying to get you to sell it to them at that very moment, they are just asking a just in case question.

      It's more of a:
      If you plan to sell your doll sometime in the future let me know question.
      Alot of owners change dolls or replace their characters with a newer doll and post the old one in the marketplace, and because you didn't know your favorite doll was on sale, you couldn't have a chance to get him because you didn't know he was up for sale. It's like they want a update. And what's wrong with that?
      It seems like a reasonable and understandable way of thinking to me. [ I am trying to imagine them in their situation]

      I think people take it too much to the heart like an insult. It's not like they cussed you out or cursed you like a real insult. It's simply a question and if the answer is never or no.
      Just say never or no.

      I have also had the whole [Are you selling your car? question] And I just say "nope". But I shrug it off, I don't feel attacked or insulted or even annoyed.
      It's just a simple curious bystander question.

      I always try to see the others point of view first, not judge them based of a question [such as assuming they are all about money], but it really depends on how they communicate with you. If it's a pushy type of letter then, I really don't like that because that is more demanding or forcing. But if they are polite, I don't mind.
       
    7. Personally, I wouldn't like it, especially if I'd shown absolutely no intention of selling it. Although, I think it depends on how they ask. If it's more in a complimentary way, then I wouldn't mind as much. I wouldn't report anyone who did it though, I'd just say no and forget about it. If they kept asking, then I'd report it.
       
    8. I dont think its rude AT ALL. I mean, unless the person asks in a rude tone, or gets angry when you say no its just a question. When your in a hobby that you own something rare or customized, then expect it. Most people with money would rather just pay to get something rather then taking the time to achieve it them selves.

      Specially if you own a doll that is one of a kind ( only 1 ever made) Like a minimee. I have three Minimee characters I DON"T show on DOA because I don't want others stealing my ideas, and also I KNOW that they only way some one could get my sculpt is if they bought it from me, thus they would ask if I was going to sell it ( if anyone liked my dolls that is) If some one where to ask me that I would be flattered. I would think " they love my doll sooooooo much that they would want tot buy it from me :) " It feels nice to know that some one appreciates your style.


      If you don't want people to bother you or ask if your dolls are for sale then TYPE that on your profile or add it to your sig. I mean its not that hard.
       
    9. I think it's rude personally. Dolls for some people are like their children, they love them dearly. How'd you feel if someone you barely knew asked to buy your child?
       
    10. I can see it happening, but I don't agree with it especially if the doll is not a feeler. It just seems like an awfully awkward situation all the way around--someone wanting a doll so badly that they're willing to try and entice you to sell your doll. Meanwhile, you may be able to empathize with the person who really wants the doll, but you love your own doll a lot.

      The only thing I ever actually inquire about is resin matching as well as scale-matching. ^^;;; And I am really happy that people put up with me for that because I wouldn't be able to have my wonderful hybrids without their help!
       
    11. Although I've said before that I think pm's that ask if I would sell a doll is insulting, I didn't mean if it was said like the way pink_dollie wrote. I've had people ask me if I would think of them when I decide to sell a particular doll. This is a normal and understandable question and it's sometimes the only way to get a hold of your dream doll.

      It's all about how you ask it, I guess. "Hey, I've got $20, give me your doll's wig" is probably not the best way to contact someone, but politely ask them it they would want to think of you is.
       

    12. Theses are dolls, inadament object, they in NO way could compare to a LIVE BREATHING CHILD, in NO WAY.

      If a CHILD was in a fire weather it was YOUR child or not an adult would risk their life to save them. If it was a doll no one would jump. Also most people place up intimate pictures of their dolls, I doubt any one would put up a picture of their child in many intimate situation on the internet unless this person had problems...( or have such a picture)

      That's the problem, these are just dolls and people seem to forget this fact. They get to worked up or very a silly little question of " could you sell me your doll?" A question is only rude if it is stated rude or its connotation is rude or hurtful. Being in a hobby makes the context of that question right, your showing off your doll ( a article from your collection) in a forum ( a place to learn fact about your hobby and to showcase your collection.) Specially since trading and selling is allowed here in market place even though you had no feeler up, the context of that question is right because your showcasing your collection on a form. If it bothers you so much just place a " please do not ask to buy my dolls" tag on your sig or in your profile. Now if someone knocked on your door asking you if you would sell them the doll they saw through your window, now I would think THAT'S rude.... and creepy...



      To ask and to entice are to totally different things. If they are saying " I love your doll please please sell it to me for $2,000 because - Insert a sob story here- " Now that is rude. They are trying to convince you. But to just ask like " I really love your doll if you ever plan to sell him think of me" Is not.
       
    13. Empty_fullmoon Totally agree with you.
       
    14. If someone asked rudely I'd be offended/put off, depending on the degree. If someone asked nicely I'd respect them and politely decline (or maybe accept, if I had been thinking of selling the doll).

      It's simple, and it's the same with anything else in life. Half the issue is how you present yourself.
       
    15. I would ask the mold and then buy the mold from the original store site or go on eBay if it comes to that.
       
    16. Depends on how they ask it, completely. I have several people that adore the crap out of Nathaniel, my One-Off Enn, and i know that if i HAD to sell him [read: I am DEAD. XD], there would be good homes ready to take him becaue they've message me or... tackled me at meets. XD

      I think the idea is rather nice to know that if you have to sell a doll, you have someone in the wings that would appretiate them more than most if you sold the doll to them.
       
    17. Just from my opinion and experience example from playing an mmo since I'll still react the same with my dolls if this ever came up, I don't mind if there's a light request and me giving "being nice about it"/"straight forward" no and they take it, but if it's turns out they go on the offense trying to make you sell it to them, that's where I draw the line and the situation turns into harassment even when you try to explain to them nicely you don't wanna give it up. If you wanna sell it, you'll put up a sign about it. If you don't wanna sell it, they should 'get it' that they're not up for sell and just send fan mail or keep their silence. Again this is all in my opinion.

      (Also spams of requests are annoying as hell... =_____=+++ )
       
    18. That's the implication I made--that enticing someone is an issue and I don't agree with it. Conversely, one can empathize when someone is really fixated on a specific doll (I think this is common for many BJD lovers at some point or another because there are so many lovely dolls :fangirl:). Personally, I would not feel comfortable with asking someone to keep me in mind if they ever planned to sell a specific doll, but that's my own thought about it.
       
    19. I'm not saying this applies to everyone. In my opinion, 'better safe than sorry' is the best way to go. I may not think of my doll as a child of mine, nor would I attempt a heroic rescue to save him from a burning building at the risk of my own life, but some people I know would. I think it is rude to ask someone to sell their dolls, yes, but as you said it depends on the context. I'm sorry if I wasn't as clear as I could've been.
      Regardless of how I think about my dolls, I prefer to take the cautious approach when dealing with their owners.

      Also agreeing. A light question is okay, I suppose, but when you say no in any manner, and the person nags you about it, THEN it's a problem.
       
    20. Agreed! I wouldn't find it offending unless the offer was incredibly blunt and persistent. Otherwise it doesn't seem like something to get too upset about. : D​