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Is it 'OKAY' to PM an Owner about Selling a doll they had NO intention to sell?

Aug 2, 2007

    1. That's actually a really good point (of someone asking if you ever sold it). There has actually been a time in the past where I was going to buy a custom and someone beat me to it by just a minute or two. In the end, a few months later, they looked me up and sold it to me which was really nice.
       
    2. If someone PMed me wanting to buy one of my dolls I would be totally flattered! I would be polite and say sorry, but no, but I would probably feel happy that someone found my doll so attractive. People rarely even comment on my gallery threads and I've wondered if people think my dolls are ugly. I love them and think they're beautiful, but I have felt a little like I'm the only one who likes them, so that sort of thing would be a compliment to me!

      I would never PM someone asking if they'd sell me their doll. If they're posting pictures of it, it's probably because they love the doll and are proud of it, so it would be a pointless endeavor and sort of embarrassing. I'll just save the pic to my computer to admire whenever I like and keep me eyes on the marketplace for the sculpt, if I like it that much!
       
    3. I don't like the idea, or the action, of blatantly asking a person to sell something that their close to. Not only is it impolite but also inconsiderate because really, if they were to ask you to buy a doll you owned then they obviously weren't considering your feelings at all. If they were then they would've waited for you to want to sell it before asking.
      I personally would report the person, but that may only be because of how much I love my doll and my unwillingness to let him go.
       
    4. I agree that it isn't horrible to maybe pm and say please let me know IF you decide to sell that doll. I would think of it as flattering. But anything more is kinda weird. Just use that particular doll as inspiration to create your own doll that you'll love even more. I don't like the obsessive aspect of it. Move on people.....
       
    5. I think it's very rude and kinda strange to ask someone if they're selling their doll, or how much they'd want for it. Can you imagine what it'd be like if everyone did that in person? What if, for example, I had my camera with me, and someone came up to me and said, "are you going to sell that camera?" How awkward! It's the same idea. It's my personal property and unless I'm advertising that I'm selling it then why ask? That being said, if someone were to say, "if you ever decide to sell your doll please let me know" then it's not as weird and at least you're being polite. I'd still never do it.
       
    6. I think a person will never know whether you are going to sell your rare doll (and the doll of his/her dream) or not until he/she asks you directly. So there is nothing humiliating in the question itself. But offensive letters are another topic. In case there are real maniacs i'd rather discuss everything politely directly with the person without fuss, hysterics and rude words.
       
    7. Well it's like asking how much are you willing to sell one of your children. I myself have one doll that I would never consider selling and if someone asked " I like your doll. Are you willing to sell her for $____ amount. I would be really pissed. But if they gave me a complement and asked for her I would say no but wouldnt be angry. It's really about the way the buyer is asking.
       
    8. I had this once, that someone asked me if I could sell her my CP Shiwoo. I kinda felt like smacking her... She was like: "How much do you want for the blackhaired boy in this picture?" Erm... whut?

      If it's okay to ask someone if they want to sell a doll while they actually have no intention of selling that doll... NO it's not. It may be a compliment that someone is interested, but really. It's just plain arrogant and selfish. If you want said doll, look on the marketplace or buy it from the company, instead of bothering an owner.

      Plus, if a buyer really wants MY CP Shiwoo, I kind of feel like that person wants my character. Because when you as an owner to sell you that doll, instead of looking for it on the marketplace, he/she is interested in the way that doll looks at that excact moment.


      Ofcourse with limited dolls it is a bit different, but come on. It's not like people want to sell a doll unless you know that they are already doubting about it... Then you can always try, in a POLITE way.
       
    9. I agree that it really is about the way a person asks. If someone were to say "How much do you want for X" or "I'll give you X for this doll" then yeah, I'd be pissed. Not only are you (general you, of course) being rude by inquiring about an item the person had no intentions of selling, you're doing it in a way that makes the owner sound as if they're either desperate for money or don't care about the doll in the first place (which if they didn't, then guess what- IT WOULD ALREADY BE ON THE MP!)

      Now if someone said "I really like X doll. If you ever decide to sell him/her, could you please let me know?" then I would be flattered, and even still the person wouldn't really be asking if they could buy the doll per se, but rather if I could remember them if I did decide to sell it.
       
    10. This has happened to me multiple times with one of my soony's, I was unaware that there was a rule against it until now. I have to say my experience was not pleasant, I did feel like the people were a little bit possessive and pushy over my doll, one of them was even offended when I politely told her that I had no intentions of ever selling any of my dolls.
      I didn't feel flattered at all but I think it may have something to do with the way it was asked. If someone was to say "I really love your doll if you ever plan on selling her I would love to take her in" I would probably feel more I guess at ease?
       
    11. I find it rude, personally. I understand that people want to get a specific doll sometimes, especially if it's an LE release. But for standard dolls (like mine), I think it's even ruder, because they could get them directly from the company. Plus I treat my dolls like they're my children.

      I find it sad that people think we're just after money, and I make sure the person knows that I found it offensive that they even asked me to sell my daughter to them.
       
    12. I don't mind, I've had people message me on Flickr and they were polite, but I've also had people put $$$ values on what they want the doll for which I think is incredibly rude and I refuse to answer them.
       
    13. I think on one side of the issue, it's flattering that they like your doll so much. On the other side, I think it's a little rude. Unless you state you're going to sell it, then don't ask!
       
    14. I could see how people would find that offensive, but I also could see how some people wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind unless it was insistent, especially if I politely turned them down. The price in the offer is a little rude, but depending on how it was worded would probably be my main concern.
       
    15. Coming back to this thread to see how much my mind has developed.

      I don't think its wrong but I can see how it'd be very annoying. However, things are things, and when people desire them, it's natural reaction to put a price on them and try to obtain them I suppose. While I wouldn't do it myself because it would be uncomfortable for the both of us, I won't say its wrong​.

      Even when people say "I'll give you _____ for ______!", it doesn't necessarily mean they think you're after money. It's just sort of people not thinking things through completely and it coming off as rude. Now if you refused and they said "Hmph, it's the best deal you would have gotten as it's only worth ________." now that I consider flat out rude. Otherwise, instead of rude, I see it as someone who just really wants something. It's not easy going up to someone and ask to buy something they own.
       
    16. I personally don't see the 'rudeness' behind the intention-- I mean I would take it as a complement like "hey, thanks for liking my doll so much you want to own it!" However, it could be a little bit awkward if the person phrased it in a very inconsiderate manner. I wouldn't sell any doll to anyone who sounds as if they want the doll just because it looks 'pretty'.

      It all comes down to how they say it and whether it be an actual intention to buy or a strong complement. Either one, at the end of the day it just means someone out there loves your doll as much as you do which is a great thing, imo.
       
    17. For me it would all depend on how the message was worded. If it was an "I love your doll and if you ever plan on selling it please keep me in mind" sort of pm I would be totally flattered and pleased :) If it were constant bugging "please sell me your doll" I would be annoyed and I can see how it could feel like stalking also depending on how they worded the message.

      I would never send a message like that because most of the dolls I truly adore are unique characters created by someone. I certainly wouldn't want someone copying my characters but the doll would loose what I love about it if I were to buy it and try to create a different character for it.
       
    18. I wouldn't mind if someone asked me if I'd sell them one of my dolls. I'd politely tell them that I won't sell them and that's it. On the other hand I would never ask someone else to sell me a doll they don't offer.
       
    19. if they said that they loved my doll and could give them a good home if i thought about selling? i would be okay with that. probably flattered. if they just offered money? i would ignore them. i love my kids and put part of me into them. and if worse did come to worse, i would want someone to love them too.
       
    20. I haven't even gotten my dolls yet, but I have been asked a couple of times to sell other things, jewelery and such that I have made myself. So I'll take the same stand on dolls as on those other objects, as long as they are polite about it and take no for a no I'll be pretty flattered that someone would like to pay money for something that I have worked on.

      I see nothing wrong about asking a person if she/he is planning on selling something they've made and express your interest in the object, though of course I respect the rules of the forum.