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Is it 'OKAY' to PM an Owner about Selling a doll they had NO intention to sell?

Aug 2, 2007

    1. i agree, if someone wanted to buy something from me that was completely priceless to me, i'd be all like; 'got a million-jillion dollars?'
      and they'ed be all like 'no, whats that?'
      and id be all like 'the price of my doll, ya mook!'

      ps: i was listening to my mp3 player and watching the little sumomo icon dance around to the music.
      XD
       
    2. No, it's not okay to PM someone about selling their doll if it's not for sale. I feel that it's rude to do so. And I think people who do that feel that they are entitled to things when they see them.

      If you asking simple questions about the sculpt and feel of the resin that's one thing. Or if they expressed interest in the past of selling and decided not to and you're curious if they'd reconsider, that's a little more acceptable.
       
    3. I think it depends on the situation.

      Of course, if a random nobody pms me, I'd be all WTF and turn down the offer.

      It has happened to me though, that my doll is relationship-close to another doll. While I had no intention of selling my doll, his boyfriend's owner pm-ed me and asked if I'd be willing to sell him and "let them be together", per say.

      It was a startling offer, but I weren't offended and actually seriously started considering the option. In the end I did end up selling him, that's a case that I know he'll be taken care of in another household even better than I could have, though.
       
    4. This is exactly the point.

      I have been PM'd before about my Woosoo that has never been for sale. The person wasn't outright rude, but I found even having the audacity to essentially say, "Ok, I want your doll, name your price", is incredibly inappropriate, disrespectful and downright insulting.

      I pretty much told that person with how attached and emotionally invested some people are with their dolls, it's not a good idea to be doing that. [This person was also PM'ing other Woosoo owners as well asking the same thing.] That person wrote me back calling ME rude!

      So sorry that I won't sell you my doll that was never for sale that I love dearly?:|
       
    5. I actually had someone pm me the other day asking if I was going to sell a head of mine... and I just replied no and deleted I completely forgot it was against the rules... I should have reported it... but man that is irritating too!
       
    6. I also find this to be incredibly inappropriate. It's crass and insulting to assume that everyone can be bought at a certain price.

      I know many people who have issues with this on a frequent basis and I know they find it very frustrating; and I do not blame them in the least.

      Unless the owner has indicated in any manner they may be thinking about selling, I think it's inappropriate to send them offers of this type.
       
    7. I've told friends of mine that should they ever sell a certain one of their dolls, it has to be to me sort of thing -> but these are people I know and talk to and understand that I'm not demanding in any way, just making sure that a certain one of theirs doesn't get lost in the sea should they ever lose interest in them. I'd never just PM someone I didn't know though and ask them to sell a doll that I liked, especially when they weren't even for sale in the first place.

      I've had that happen to me a few times in the past. I've had peeps out of nowhere ask to buy such and such of my crew and told me to 'name my price'. While I wasn't overly insulted by any means [I tend to shrug that sort of thing off, depending on the situation] I didn't so much appreciate the demanding tone of the mails because nowhere anywhere did I have it written that the particular doll in question was for sale and it seemed odd to me that someone who I'd never spoken to before would come off the left field and ask me to sell when I clearly had no intention of selling.

      So personally, I don't think it's really an okay thing to do, especially considering how emotionally attached to the dolls people in this hobby can be [myself included]. It's one thing to give someone a compliment on them, and quite another to say "sell them to me" when they have never even hinted at having an intention to sell. I guess it would depend on the wording in a way, but it does seem a bit rude.
       
    8. The worst I have done is PM owners asking what kind of doll they have. Which I certainly hope isn't harassing.
       
    9. I wouldn't do it, and I'd feel uncomfortable if someone did it to me. If I *really* loved someone's doll, the most I'll do is stalk the marketplace hoping that someday they decide to part with him :lol: [which happens quite a bit, actually]. Many of us have a strong sentiment towards our beloved dolls, and asking that just seems... Rather impolite.
      I do think, though, that the doll's owner can take that as a huge compliment- but the act of sending such a PM in itself seems kinda out of place to me.
       
    10. Whether it was polite or blunt, I would be offended either way. I have had this happen to me in the past and I find it very rude. If I want to sell my doll, I will say so in the Marketplace.
       
    11. I wouldn't consider that harassment. I've had people asking me about the accessories my dolls have, from glasses to jewelry to shoes, in threads and PMs. It's all good to me, I really like the things I've bought and am pleased that others like them, too.

      But should someone write to me insisting that I sell them one of my things, much less dolls, they'll earn a swift addition to my ignore list. It's rude, tacky, against the rules, and just a little insulting. Upping the price after an owner says no is even worse.
       
    12. To ask a person once is fine, but to pester or beg? Of course not.

      It doesn't hurt to let a person know you'd be interested (ONCE) if they ever consider selling, but begging or pestering is just rude and unacceptable.
       
    13. I don't think it's nice to send someone a message like that. If they have the doll up for sale in the MP and you want it, fine. If not, leave the poor owner and their dollies alone.
       
    14. I have never been in this situation before, and I honestly hope I never will be...u_u

      I think its extremely rude, tacky, irritating, and yes, ethically wrong to ask someone to sell their doll while they have no intention of selling it. Especially if that somebody harasses the doll owner about it. It's nice and all that they love the doll, and to praise it is one thing...but to ASK to buy it? AND to try and put a price on it at the same time? ...I can't really even find words to describe how offened I, personally, would be if it ever happened to me... And yes, I would report the person (if it took place on DOA) to the mods. It's against the rules for a reason...
       
    15. QFE (in light of recent posts).

      :aheartbea jaxa:aninja:

       
    16. Ugh. It's not just really tacky, unsolicited offers can also be scams.
       
    17. I'm sure that if it was something that (okai, this is gonna sound weird to some) your doll wanted, like if they were in a loving relationship with someone else's doll, it would be fine.

      I've been asked to allow Sundae to live with his ex, who he had no feelings for... In my case, I said no because he didn't want to be apart from Ayaka... To me, it would've been a stupid decision on my part, but I wasn't upset that I was asked.

      It could be flattering, depending on how you look at it, and some people believe it doesn't hurt to try. What can you lose from asking?
      As long as you're not too pushy or rude about it, I honestly don't see a problem.

      Jeez. People seem to get so offended by a lot of things, these days... >_>
       
    18. I've actually gotten these kind of requests quite a bit, more so when I posted in the gallery more, and I don't really mind if someone asks me once, it's tacky, but I don't really hold it against a person for loving a doll I have.

      It's the ones that on occasion really PESTER me, that annoy me to no end. Those seem either really wacky or like the person is trying to scam me.

      I just ignore those and really don't respond at all other than my first "no" sorry.
       
    19. Gosh, I don't personally see anything wrong with saying "Hello, please keep me in mind if you ever consider..." etc.
      But, I've had a friend who was first asked if she could sell the person one of their dolls, for about $200 less than what she bought the doll for. She told the person that if they really wanted the doll, to save up the rest of the money and buy one stock from Luts (her's wasn't limited, but had a custom faceup, and was her first doll). The person responded saying that their parents wont let them buy things from overseas, and that they'll never have the money for that, and other similar excuses, so she got fed up with it and ended up (sort of) telling the WTBer off. The person still PMed her every few weeks saying things like, "Are you considering selling your doll yet? I'll be waiting. If I knew it was going to take so long, I'd have asked someone else." which to me, is total BS. Having a doll shouldn't warrant that kind of harrassment. You wouldn't ask someone in a parking lot if they'll sell you their car, so it seems common sense that you shouldn't do that to a doll owner.
      On the same note, I've also had an experience selling one doll, but getting an offer for a different doll, then the potential buyer being really adamant that "when I looked at your thread, such and such doll WAS for sale. So you have to sell it to me for $xxx" when the doll in question was never even considered for sale.


      Also, it puts the person who wants to buy the doll at risk, since although this place is lovely and full of honest people with undiminished integrity, there are a few bad apples in the bunch, and they may see an unsolicited offer as an opportunity to scam someone.
       
    20. That's a really good point. I didn't think of that, but you're absolutely right. It would be so easy for someone to take advantage of a person who not only offers to buy a doll from a complete stranger, but also tells them the exact amount of money they have available. Most of us are ethical and honest, but people do get banned from the markeplace and/or board for scamming, so I can see where a scammer would love that "I want to buy your doll" offer. Might be paranoid to think that, but strange things can happen, especially on the internet.