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Mori 9 Dolls

Apr 29, 2021

    1. Mori has been posting lots of pics of her new sculpted heads on her Chinese social media account, I wish one day she could print them all out, they are absolutely gorgeous!! And I wish I would have to luck to buy Lyra x
       
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    2. I haven't seen Ciel photos yet, but purple sounds amazing. Still working on styling my LuXian, but at least he's got a face now! The more time I spend with him, the more I love him. :whee:
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    3. My wishlist these days is nearly exclusively Mori heads, and between Ciel and the sculpt previews for Asterion/Caroli/Chara posted to IG, my wallet is incredibly afraid right now :sweat

      I was so proud of myself for resisting Lyra, too!
       
    4. I'm trying so hard to be chill about Lyra but I found the perfect wig for him in stock in the USA. Unbelievable. I think I have to buy it even though I don't even know if I'll get to own the doll it's for :lol:
      Though actually I'm not 100% it will fit Lyra. Are Mori9's heads for Idealian a consistent size? Austaras and Veles wear 9-10" wigs, though the 9-10" wig I had on Austaras was a little loose. The wig I'm considering is 8-9". Too small maybe? What size does Hayato wear?
       
    5. @overlordu Hayato and Austaras head circumferences nearly the same size the same measuring from top to nape and Austaras is slightly bigger forehead to crown. Hayato head overall looks a bit bigger cause he has a longer face and Austaras a wider-shorter head with a more bulbus headcap at the crown but they are basically the same size. I would expect Lyra to be around that size too.

      Probably closer to Hayato as he appears to have a longer face as well also Mori changed the headcap design so there is no metal plate on the outside like with Austaras which I think accounts for his slightly larger crown. I find their heads are too small for 8-9 unless the wig has a lot of stretch. 9-10 is a little loose but I don't have problems when I use a wig cap.

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      Superbuy just told me Ciel will be shipped 5/26 thats crazy fast, they must already be in production! :dance
       
    6. Oooh thanks for the infos @RebelViva :chibi HmmMMmmmmMmm it's a Luts wig, and they do have some stretch but I wouldn't say a lot of stretch. It's so perfect for my vision though, I think I'll buy it and just cross my fingers that I can bully it onto his fat head. :XD::eusa_pray

      And omg what? That's so fast for Ciel!!! What color did you get? And do you have plans for how you'll customize him??
       
    7. @overlordu Yes definitely try! I was able to bully my Hayato into a custom made wig for my R.dean S.Rei head and stretched out more after a while now it doesn't fit the R.dean head anymore LOL! Those are 8.5 inch heads.

      I know I was shocked! I got Tan for Ciel though, I was hoping it was their Chocolate but it looks like Chocolate skin (along with the purple) was only for promo? You could only get them at a doll event in-person in China lol. Lol idk why they would use chocolate for the promo pics for the online sale though because they posted those pics after the event had already occurred lol. Hoping that their tan isn't too light as he was supposed to be an Egyptian OC of mine, him and his half brother (Tan JR Vadim) are descendants of Ra so he will have a more Egyptian themed face-up but modernized.
       
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    8. I'm happy that Mori decided to cut ties with Dollshe. Probably gonna get much more sales and interest in her new sculpts now. I loved Doma, but would never have purchased him from Dollshe for obvious reasons. I had a chat with Mori via email, and many clients had approached her saying that Dollshe was not keeping his production time standards. She did not want to risk people not getting her dolls so she ended the collaboration. She also said Dollshe was constantly pressuring her for new head sculpts to sell and that no other company she collaborated with has ever been in such a rush to get more head sculpts when the previous ones are not even yet in production. She just had an overall bad feeling about it.

      She said we can expect Doma and Luke release via another agency. She just has to edit the size and specs because they're designed to fit Dollshe's body currently and don't fit other bodies. I hope that the renewed Doma will fit Soom's ID75! I'm all in for a tall boy.
       
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    9. Mori made a smart move and I'm glad she trusted her instincts. Dollshe is business poison at this point. I'm not physically capable of handling more 75cm dolls, but I have no horse in this race. Hopefully the new collab will be easier for Doma and Luke fans to acquire!
       
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    10. I'm SO glad she pulled out of the collaboration with Dollshe. I also really wanted Doma, but not on that body and certainly not from Dollshe himself. I'm glad we can all have the chance to get him (and Luke) from a more reputable production company, and in a form that will fit a wider variety of bodies.
       
    11. At this point Dollshe is a Ponzi Scheme, robbing Peter to pay Paul.

      I do hope she'll also produce heads in the 70cm range, since I'm also not up to having bunch of dolls in the 75cm+ range.
       
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    12. I’m also excited about her ending with Dollshe because I think Dollshe casted Hayato and the resin match wasn’t as good to Soom as Austaras. Most of my dolls are 75cm so I’m happy with the sizing but I do hope she gives y’all options. Always good to see variety I wonder if she will sculpt a younger looking head on 68-70cm
       
    13. LuXian DF-H 68cm collab does sort of look like a baby Austaras/Veles sort of face. All of his features are a bit rounder and softer.
       
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    14. Just curious, what's the source of this info that Dollshe casted Hayato? I've seen people say this a couple of times, but I've never seen this indicated on any of her accounts.

      Also, for the record, on her Weibo post where she mentioned she is trying for grey and purple tones for Lyra, she stated in response to a comment that she has no plans to cast Soom normal again. She said that Hayato normal is close to "cream." I'm not sure if that's Soom cream or some other cream, but Hayato normal was not intended to match Soom normal.
       
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    15. On my part (not sure about others) it was an educated assumption since the resin color had changed and she was working with Dollshe on the Doma and Luke heads at the same time Hayato was releasing. Dollshe casts for other companies and is relatively on-time for their orders, so it would make sense given the partnership. But this isn't confirmed info, at least from what I've seen.

      Hayato WS is relatively close to Soom 2021 Cream skin. Soom Cream 2021 is a bit darker and more yellow than Hayato. Soom Cream 2023 is way too pink (I don't have a 2022 CS to compare). Soom is notorious for inconsistent resin though (even in the same batches) so it's hard to say what year and/or batch the Soom resin was from when it was matching when Mori9 heads.

      However, from eyeballing online Hayato looks like Dollshe Pale Milk/Pale (got rid of Snow Pale it looks like now its just Pale now). I have my Hayato on The Voice WS. The Voice WS is supposed to be a Soom Cream match but much too dark and yellow for 2023 Soom Cream, more matches Soom 2021 but its not perf (The Voice WS though is a near perfect match for Loong Soul French Yellow which runs super pale compared to other companies with Normal skin).

      But hmm I wonder who her new caster will be. Does 2Ddoll do casting services? Thats who Ciel was with and they did purple and they have grey as well. Regardless I hope they have a smooth working relationship would love to get more of her sculpts!

      (P.S. very tired sorry this is did not make sense lol)
       
    16. I have Hayato as well as recently made Dollshe dolls, and the resin is completely different.

      I highly doubt Mori would have Dollshe cast dolls outside of their partnership when Mori has access to local casting factories within China that she can communicate with in her primary language.
       
    17. @Constance Hard to say when a Dollshe doll was made though since there’s such a big time between when it’s sent and when you ordered. The doll or parts of it could have been casted but not sanded/finished and then sat for a year or two until finished or the head was casted. You would only know when you got the finished doll lol.

      But you would think so that she would stick with China casters but that could also be said about the collaboration as well. She still had to communicate and send her masters to him in Korea which she would have to do in both cases of him casting Hayato or the Doma and Luke collab heads. Her previous collabs were only with Chinese companies Universe doll and DFH. Now most recently with Chinese company 2ddoll.

      Why collab with Dollshe at all then with him being in Korea? Especially when it’s not like his reputation isn’t known in China prior even if he isn’t as popular. Maybe he gave her a heavy discounted deal or a bigger share on profits she couldn’t refuse as he knew she would attract business and tempt people into buying from him again. Definitely agree with Cloudedmind seems like Ponzi scheme from him so it would align with him doing anything to attract more business to keep more funds flowing in as that’s the only way to keep the walls from crashing down.

      But of course this is all speculation.
       
    18. Sorry for double post but we finally got some clarity on skin tones/body matches!

      Here is official posting for Mori from IG:
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      My hunch was correct about 2021 Soom cream skin, so random that it also was an exact match to the one I was comparing it to (although my boy has yellowed a bit which cloud also account for discrepancy). But it looks like she is matching Soom just 2021 Soom.

      @Constance perhaps her saying she is no longer matching Soom normal then means she is no longer updating the resin tone to match Soom? 2021 Soom has more yellow undertones and 2022-2023 has more pink undertones so they are definitely different. I don't speak chinese so I can only rely on translate so just guessing the context.

      Here too is a body reference she posted:

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    19. Aaaahhhh I'm so excited... and nervous!!! *_* I'm so glad Mori shared the body reference photo. I was leaning towards ID75 but this confirms it for me! He looks so good!! :chibi