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Narin Creative/Dollfair Waitlist and Resolution

Oct 16, 2010

    1. Just a reminder - please keep to the facts and try to avoid making personal judgments or speculations in the thread. We know you obviously have opinions on everything that's going on (and are certainly entitled to!), but we can't let the thread turn into a hate-fest. If you have something you really need to get off your chest, please send a PM or post it off-site. Thanks!

      Dollyholic has been flagged with Dealer Caution.
       
    2. @ghost reflection,
      did you get no order-confirnation via email? I mean order Nr. , date and content...
      Anyway you can fill out this Bimong'sform and sent it to him
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      Re: Dollfair

      art-bimong.com ID* :
      Name :
      Head Type :
      Skin type : (Colour, france or corean resin)
      Adress :
      Tel :

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      *if you sign up by Bimong.
       
    3. Where is Joan through all of this?? I want my toyou sara faceplate back or a refund! Are limhwa orders suffering too,or are the problems exclusive to the narin dolls??What a waist of a great doll..her body is beautiful..but she has no face..thats such a tragedy..:( I still have yet to get a tracking number..I was told the faceplate shipped from limhwa weeks ago..now its starting to look like a lie. I would love for it to show up so I can post an update and vindicate my situation..but nothing has come..so my poor doll has no face. I posted 2 times on the yahoo group about my situation,and my posts have yet to show up...its so convienient that the group is now moderated and peoples posts have to be approved to show..
       
    4. Bimong emailed me back with the same list. I will see if I can figure this out. I was never given an order number or a confirmation from dollfair, but my payment was taken over paypal. I have the records of the transaction on paypal. Thanks for your help. I will try to work this out. I remember emailing dollfair a while ago for a confirmation and order status and never got one.
       
    5. Very interesting. I believe I saw a Narin in there. =__=
       
    6. There's definatley some Narin dolls there, I imagine they are left over stock though - really, if she had any spare stock at all they should have been offerd to those waiting on similar dolls from her - but it's not like this is the first time she hasn't done the decent thing, right - -'
       
    7. I think most of them are Limhwa (You can usually tell Limhwa girls by their hands) or custom Machina. The boy with the open white shirt might be a Narin though.
       
    8. Yes I think the girl with the crazy wig nekkid is limwha and the tanned boy is narin.
       
    9. "Catherine" was at the booth at IDEX. She was promoting the limwha dolls. I didn't think to ask her what the turn around time was for those. She was selling a narin doll for $500 and some doll clothes. She had 2 other cronies with her.
       
    10. I find it totally shocking that she can be there as bold as brass (as my mum used to say!) when she owes thousands of $$. I can't understand why she isn't being investigated for fraud by now. Limhwa really need to think twice before continuing to do business as I know I for one will never buy a doll through Dollfair/Catrina/Catherine/Jo/whatever name she uses next
       
    11. Bimong is asking that those who ordered through Paypal try to make a refund claim, and to be sure and fair he has requested everyone to show him their failed claim before he will fulfill Dollfair orders.

      As he's new to Paypal he might not realise that the claim period has expired though :?. Those on Bimong's waitlist might want to remind him about Paypal's policies.

      That said, if you try to inform Payal that your purchase was for a pre-order item, or an item with a long manufacturing period before shipping, you may still be able to get them to put the heat on Catrina for a refund. Because these orders are somewhat unusual and Paypal's normal policy doesn't really cover it adequately because of the extended wait times.

      Bimong's full notice is as follows:

      He has also put up a warning/reminder that the Dollfair Narae ordering page is still up, and that he is not affiliated with or responsible for any Limhwa orders.
       
    12. "I'm sure that she'll either issue a refund or contact you for a further discussion, either way you will be closer to get the money back. "


      Oh great... suddenly I'm not feeling so good about this...
       
    13. I think if there hasn't been any contact from Catrina (or whatever her name is) at this point there isn't going to be anything more to hear from her. It would be a miracle if we did. I've filed with everyone I could have filed with. I just sent Bimong a copy of the dispute page from Paypal with a refusal by Paypal. Hopefully this moves me closer to perhaps getting my Neferti home......
       
    14. It may appear a little ominous but he says he is still committed to making dolls for people affected by the Dollfair fallout. If you cannot get a refund you just send him the response you get from Paypal stating why your claim cannot be fulfilled.

      He may not fully understand Paypal's claim policy or the extent of Catrina's non-communication. If it's true that he is covering these orders at his own full or partial expense it makes sense that he wants to try and exhaust all the other options first.
       
    15. Ah, now it feels like we're back to where we were before, not really going forward with this mess. Sent my proof that I filed on 10/29/2010. Hope things go smoothly from here on.
       
    16. I agree with both you DevKimiko and obsessed_mimiko. I did tell Bimong that many of us have gone this route already. I do feel like this is going to be going on for awhile though while Bimong waits for the Paypal responses.